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I might be weird for this take but I will never be tired of humanized villains. They teach us that people are not inherently bad, and that mean people are not emotionless, in fact they’re the complete opposite. Their emotions take over their lives.
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Anonymous 1d

The thing that movies have been doing wrong recently hasn’t been humanizing villains, it’s been having them doing things that aren’t even that evil

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Anonymous 1d
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Anonymous 1d

As long as we don’t forget villains that are just freaking terrible. That it’s okay for stories to have evil people just be evil

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Anonymous 21h

There’s a place for both

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Anonymous 22h

You’re right that’s a weird take. As much as I’d like to agree with you, I feel like writing villains with opinions that people can understand is a good thing (like thanos, Farquaad , etc. but morally ambiguous / moral relative villains confuse audiences and dilute the idea of good and evil which I think is done on purpose because of postmodernism and the vague idea that there is no truth in our modern culture. Destroy the idea of good and evil and we devolve into a morally ambiguous society

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Anonymous 19h

Absolutely that’s what made me love breaking bad, like eh was a incredibly bad person but they built up each character as having lives and a family beyond just being evil

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Anonymous 14h

thennnnn you’re gonna like spider-man bnd

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

You’re not wrong but they still need to be narratively interesting. A villain that is irredeemable can still be human. In fact all good villains should make you question if they are redeemable or not.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Idk about that. I see where you’re coming from but Phoenix from Demolition Man was a phenomenal villain without being redeemable or Lady Tremaine from Cinderella

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Tbh not every villain needs to be some sympathetic outcast from society. Pure evil villains/villains that are just irredeemable people can work too. Joker is a good example of this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

Yo please read what I said. Pure evil is fine but they shouldn’t be evil for no reason. A good example I’m thinking of is homelander. He feels deep insecurity and fears not living up to what people wanted to be. These are things that everyone can relate to. However, he contradicts himself entirely because he’s literally the most powerful Supe ever created, so he actually does have the power to be what he wants to be, but instead chooses to use it to bully others. Among many other reasons,

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

this is why he’s irredeemable, not because he was just a bad person right out of the womb. And this enhances his character because he has a reason for being this way, which affects how he acts and how he goes about his villainy.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Oh ok. Yeah I see what you’re saying. I’m sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were saying an irredeemable villain isn’t a good one but I missed the point you were trying to make so thank you for explaining

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 22h

With no ability to combat evil

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 21h

Farquaad is a prettty evil guy

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 21h

I disagree. To me, morally ambiguous doesn’t mean you can’t make a judgement about someone’s character, it simply means their actions aren’t only explained by “they’re a hero because the author said so” or “they’re a villain because the author said so.” It doesn’t destroy the idea of good and evil, it only enhances our understanding of it. It teaches us what good and evil actually means, what might drive a person to do terrible things, and how we can stay clear of that path in our own life

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 21h

In my own life, I’ve found that I’ve spent much more time fighting against evil within myself rather than others.

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