Anonymous #2 13w

Both US political parties and mainstream western political parties support the genocide of Palestine (except La France Insoumise, a coalition of hard leftists in France). This is the basis of western economies and always has been. Trump is the living embodiment of “American values” in every sense of the term

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Anonymous #2 13w

We can reclaim America. We can reclaim the flag. I’m not patriotic precisely because of our history. But if we can try to make things right, try to move forward with how we should be, the country can be a better place. But you shouldn’t just sit back and spit on it because of its history. We need to make things right.

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Anonymous #3 13w

No you cant. Arent you guys committing genocide on Palestine right now? Who’d you vote for, Holocaust Harris?

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Anonymous #2 13w

congrats, someone's name you don't like starts with a word that has a negative connotation, you still said a whole lotta nothing. the US can and should be reclaimed, naming its flaws just lists more reasons why that's the case

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Anonymous #4 13w

The West is the global ruling class. No ruling class has ever voluntarily given up its privilege. You guys will never give up your “right” to slaughter colonized peoples, like your shitty ancestors and parents never did either. The US empire must be defeated by the Global South

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Anonymous #3 13w

You western liberals are genocidal fascists too. You bomb hospitals, commit planned famines, torture children to death. The US army does mass rapes all the time. The only difference between you and Trump is that yall know to hide it.

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Anonymous #2 13w

I reiterate:

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Anonymous #4 13w

Look at what yall voted to do to Palestine, Yemen, Cuba, Venezuela, Guantanamo Bay, Iraq. You fascist dogs have no shame or decency. You’re monsters.

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Anonymous #2 13w

crack pipe

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Anonymous #4 13w

Fascist genocidal western liberal

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Anonymous #2 13w

repeating your buzzwords doesn't making your manifesto ramblings any more legitimate

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Anonymous #2 13w

also

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Anonymous #4 13w

Bruh is so brainwashed in white supremacism he thinks “imperialism”, “settler-colonialism” and “Yemen” are meaningless buzzwords

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Anonymous #2 13w

okay, then what? like even if we accept every single premise you put forth wtf are we supposed to do about that??

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Anonymous #5 13w

Well for one thing the bare minimum is to not “rally behind the flag”, spread pro-imperial propaganda like OP, or vote for imperialist parties

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Anonymous #2 13w

didn’t you just say the global south needs to conquer us….that sounds like imperialism to me bud

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Anonymous #5 13w

Is it imperialism for the slave to revolt against his master

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Anonymous #5 13w

I said the Global South must defeat its oppressors, the people who keep them impoverished and enslaved for profit. I.e, the West

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Anonymous #5 13w

“Akchyually anti-imperialism and imperialism are the same thing” least braindead imperialist

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Anonymous #2 13w

ur right that the country was also founded on colonialism, but we’re clearly talking about the great melting pot and the fight against tyranny so hard that you’ll create a new complicated form of government to try and prevent it

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Anonymous OP 13w

“Tyranny” Amerikkka is the greatest tyranny in the world. You set up dictatorships all over the world to enslave the Global South. The average person toils in misery their whole life so you get cheap products

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Anonymous OP 13w

Everything you believe is a fascist lie to justiy Amerikkka’s brutal subjugation of the Global South

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Anonymous #2 13w

If only someone loved you

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Anonymous #2 13w

Grass is a low, green plant that grows naturally over a lot of the earth's surface, having groups of very thin leaves that grow close together in large numbers

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Anonymous #9 13w

Many people love me. Jealous? I was raised in a family that valued human life, which includes non-western peoples. The same peoples you vote to be murdered in death camps or enslaved.

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Anonymous #6 13w

I’m getting spanmed by braindead fascists so go ahead, one less in my mentions

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Anonymous #9 13w

#2 is so wild to watch just bc they have the right ideas but they’re so rigid in their perception of how progressive change should be executed that they’re making enemies where they don’t need to

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Anonymous #6 13w

it’s an unfortunate trap a lot of radicals (term used neutrally) fall into where they feel such a sense of urgency that they start thinking in black and white, us or them terms, and that sort of division and self-persecution is exactly what keeps fascists in power. great that they care a lot but relentlessly criticizing well-meaning allies doesn’t get us anywhere, it just makes us mad at each other and it’s not constructive

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Anonymous #6 13w

You’re wrong and you’re everything wrong with the world. Read Frantz Fanon or Huey Newton. The way nazis treated other Europeans is the way that Western Liberals have treated colonized peoples. There is no “big difference” between liberalism and fascism. You support the mass rape and murder of millions of people. Anti-colonial scholarship agrees on this.

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Anonymous #2 13w

man i wonder where #2 went, i feel like i haven’t heard from them in a while

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Anonymous #6 13w

Western liberals that keep war criminals like Obama or Biden in power aren’t “well meaning allies”. They are complicit in genocide, they are the mass base that enables settler colonialism, imperialism, genocide and make them possible.

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Anonymous #2 13w

i can almost hear their voice….

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Anonymous #6 13w

By even pretending there’s some qualitative difference between demokkkrats and republikkkans, you are repeating the lies of imperialism and assuming that non-western lives have no value.

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Anonymous #2 13w

maybe…..i’m falling in love ??!!!!! 👁️👁️❤️💔⁉️⁉️

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Anonymous #6 13w

I love that I’m quoting and drawing ideas from global anti-colonial scholars and yall are just using childish insults. It shows who’s right and who’s the genocidal fascists.

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Anonymous #2 13w

why else would i keep fabricating their voice in my head…..it’s like our souls are bonded

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Anonymous #2 13w

holy shit you're still yapping, you're like if a neurotypical made a strawman about an ND person not being able to think outside a binary

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Anonymous #4 13w

“Think outside a binary” the US flag is like the swastika and should be treated accordingly. Voting for genocidal politicians enables the system. Yall are enablers and complicit

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Anonymous #4 13w

PS “its complicated” thats what Israelis say about the apartheid and genocide. The oppressors always say “its complicated”. In reality its quite simple: you support genocide because it benefits you

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Anonymous #2 13w

oppresors are also the ones to always say “x are always good y are always bad and its as simple as that”. like jesus christ not every attenpt at nuance is a form of oppression. you talk the talk but do you walk the walk? what actions are you taking to fight imperialism and tyranny and global poverty? or do you just want to talk shit and feel morally superior?

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Anonymous #5 13w

Done with your childish insults and calling me “unloved” because I call you out for your genocides and crimes against humanity? Eat shit fash

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Anonymous #2 13w

hey #5 have you seen #2????

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Anonymous #6 13w

Nazi dogs. You keep the entire world as slaves for cheap products and their resources.

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Anonymous #2 13w

i felt this strange tickle at the back of my neck, like a spidey sense….probably just the wind

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Anonymous #6 13w

People who oppose genocide and white supremacy in imperialist societies are always ridiculed. Your remarks dont bother me. History is on my side. When you die, you will be reviled, and then forgotten.

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Anonymous #2 13w

ngl 2 youre mad offensive… how many times have you said the kkk in this chat… and calling tbe US flag the swastika? youre really diminishing the horrors of the kkk and the holocaust and thats so fucked up

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Anonymous #2 13w

just because i find you annoying doesn’t mean i support genocide, white supremacy, and imperialism man…literally where did any of us say that lmao maybe do a breathing exercise or something, i worry for your blood pressure

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Anonymous OP 13w

op…#2 doth protest too much methinks…..what are they trying to compensate for lol

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Anonymous OP 13w

The Nazis literally studied the US genocide of First Peoples and used it as a model, as well as what europeans did to their colonies. Thats historical fact. And yall killed a million people in Iraq, 500,000 in Yemen, 100,000+ in Palestine, 2 million in Vietnam, 1 million in Indonesia, 1 million in Korea… so yeah its fair

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Anonymous OP 13w

“Diminishing the horrors” you are literally defending the regime that has murdered millions of innocents throughout this century alone. You guys voted for Kamala, who was actively exterminating a civilian population in death camps. And youre gonna complain about being called nazis??

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Anonymous #6 13w

Your entire society was built on mass murder of colonized peoples and youve spent the entire chat covering it up and defendingg it. Youre a monster

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Anonymous #2 13w

ok i’ll humor you, how am i defending/covering for genocide and imperialism. use quotes

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Anonymous #6 13w

The following statement: “Its a great tragedy when radicals…” The implication is that you or people like OP are allies or well-meaning. Youre not, on both counts. You support and brag about “Amerikkkan values” and the “Amerikkkan flag”. Amerikkka is a settler colony like Isntreal and you are analogous to liberal zionists

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Anonymous #6 13w

As anti-colonial scholars have pointed out, western liberalism has always been based on the mass murder and exploitation of colonized peoples. You act like liberal zionists, trying to add an air of respectability to imperialist mass murder, distance yourself from politicians and a system that you vote for and support.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Calling me mad offensive was itself extremely offensive. Nazis killed Jewish people. You kill Palestinians, Iraqis, Yemeni, and First Peoples in multiple genocides. But the Nazis are “incomparably worse” than Amerikkka? That notion inherently implies white lives are more valuable.

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Anonymous #2 13w

me? who did i kill?

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Anonymous #2 13w

ur sitting here wasting hours of your life. i promise you noone here is reading what ur saying cause youre going about im such a crazy keyboard warrior fake ass way bro. you dont actually care about these issues you just wanna hear urself speak atp and im tired of it.

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Anonymous #2 13w

take your dusty ass 2020 performative activism self out of here byee

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Anonymous OP 13w

“Who did I kill” you are spreading apologia/propaganda for the genocidal imperialists and you undoubtedly voted for either Harris or Trump. You are like the liberal zionists who defend Isntreal

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Anonymous OP 13w

You literally have been pretending that Amerikkka’s genocides of colonized peoples are “offensive” to compare to other genocides. Because colonized peoples arent full people in your eyes. Thats the same talking point liberal zionists use. Its the same tactics used by western liberals to whitewash crimes against humanity

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Anonymous #2 13w

what i find the craziest is that you probably dont even see how you sound rn… you make me want to believe the opposite of whatever tf ur saying i promise. why would i ever side with someone so fucking annoying and keyboard warrior EMBARRASSING. all this time youve spent click clacking away at your phone, u couldve been volunteering for relief efforts, working a job and donating money to gaza and native american foundations but instead ur here. making SUCH a fool out of urself that you push

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Anonymous #2 13w

anyone who bothers to read ur shit, in the complete OPPOSITE DIRECTION. girl thats so insaneee to be capable of doing that!!! you are a walking billboard for the republican party and you dont even know ot

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Anonymous OP 13w

Lmaooo you sound like all the other fascists on the interet with your self victimizing bullshit “Ackchyually I wasnt a fascist before but you made me one” You are being “offended” that I called out your genocidal crimes and now using that as an excuse to be even more of an imperialist

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Anonymous #2 13w

girlypop do YOU live in the US? are you not as much complicit and responsible for the previous and ongoing atrocities? shouldnt you be repenting sorrowfully in the streets?

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Anonymous #2 13w

hm youre real silent now when i bring up your part in this all.. if you live in the US shouldn’t you be out lamenting in the streets begging for forgiveness rn? you are complicit and responsible for it after all

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I systematically explained why everything you said is either factually wrong, with sources, or rests on implicitly racist and white supremacist assumptions, following esteemed anti-colonial scholarship.

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Your only response is further insults and rudeness.

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Anonymous OP 13w

So lets review the facts: I proved you wrong on every point and exposed your racist assumptions underlying your wordview. And you have no real response? Hm?

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Anonymous #2 13w

so this is how you know youre delusional cause i havent made any points, i dont think anyone here has youve just been talking to a wall gf

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Anonymous #2 13w

but I’ll ask again… do you live in the US?

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Anonymous #2 13w

i think your wordage to constantly say you, yall, you guys is SOOOO telling of your ability to accept responsibility and admit fault tbh

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Anonymous #2 13w

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Anonymous OP 13w

Literally tens of millions of people slaughtered in mass murders youve never even heard of under that flag. If you were even a shred of decency (we know you dont) you wouldnt use it. Nazi fascist dog

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Anonymous #2 13w

i need you to understand that you (and ppl like you) RUIN political discussions because you are so incapable of behaving like a normal fucking human. you are so INSUFFERABLE that you immediately repel any sane person from giving a fuck about what youre saying. i have never felt more republican in my entire life than i have in this comment section cause all i want to do is piss you off and be as opposite of you as possible you came in here barking like a fuckign dog cause i said ppl should

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Anonymous #2 13w

reclaim the flag so that it feels more like the whole country’s united for this cause simply cause its what’s right and what we were told growing up was the foundation of our country, what “made us the best” in no reality did u need to come in here and run your mouth. noone in the ND community is a fascist n-zi… and you ruin all weight that accusation has every time you use it. i genuinely NEEEEDDDD you to realize that. that you are the antithesis to your cause. you have probably never

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Anonymous #2 13w

convinced someone to your side in your LIFE. id bet real money that every single person youve given this speech to, and left the conversation more republican, fascist, and critical of progressive views, than they ever have. that is horrible and you genuinely need to fuckign stop

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Anonymous #2 13w

people like you are helping the fascists win at this point and i will detail exactly how. extremists like you spout inflammatory rhetoric that might have some basis in truth, but ultimately boils down to “everyone is an evil fascist except for me and a select few who share my exact beliefs” you refuse to meaningfully engage with anyone who expresses the slightest disagreement. which is most people, because of, you know, the wildly varied human experience.

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Anonymous #2 13w

the left continues to divide into smaller and smaller factions based on your moral purity ideals. the fascists, however, are more than happy to unite among themselves and bond over their hatred of us. and the left is too divided to fight back, because you refuse to accept that we’re on the same team. and you get to smile and say “i told you so” when fascist shit happens. i really fucking hope you’re a troll, though. the thought of someone unironically believing these things is terrifying.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Dog you support an oppressive and genocidal flag that stands for the murder of millions of people and the subjugation of billions of

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Anonymous OP 13w

Everyone in the Global South hates you guys and every decolonial scholar agrees yall are the same as nazis. you literally are committing industrialized mass murder on millions of people in a giant concentration camp RIGHT NOW

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Anonymous OP 13w

The entire foundation of your worldview is that genocide on First Peoples, chattel slavery, murdering millions of people in the Middle East, Asia, South America, Africa, is “ok” and “unavoidable”.

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Anonymous OP 13w

People like you are the enablers that make this possible. You’ve been brainwashed into thinking its ok. You’re sick.

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Anonymous #5 13w

“Purity politics” Obama is a fascist mass murder who killed hundreds of thousands of people and layed the groundwork for the Palestinian Genocide. So is Biden.

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Anonymous #5 13w

You aren’t the Left. You’re what Lenin called the Labor Aristocracy. You are non-wealthy people in imperialist, “first world” countries who support imperialism and mass murder because it benefits you

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Anonymous #5 13w

You prop up dictatorships all over the world, commit genocide, slavery, right wing coups, planned famines, mass rapes, all over thw world. No, you aren’t the Left. The Global Left hates your guts, and rightfully so. You’re monsters. Youre enemies of humanity and human decency.

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Anonymous #2 13w

are you talking to yourself? you live here too babe

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Anonymous #5 13w

Every great anti-colonial author of the Global South, from Walter Rodney to Frantz Fanon to Aimé Césaire, denounced Western Liberals as genocidal fascist criminals. You support imperialism and genocide because you benefit from it.

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Anonymous #2 13w

like yk youve done a horrible job when i rlly have no idea what ur even mad at considering noones even making any political points…

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Anonymous #2 13w

i am a stranger on the internet mind you

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Anonymous #2 13w

i havent said anything about my beliefs at all

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Anonymous OP 13w

Well first off, you lied a million times. Its not your country. The Amerikkkan empire was founded on and always has used genocidal white supremacy, and this is the basis of western liberalism

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Anonymous OP 13w

Then you’ve denied the fascistic character of US imperialism and strongly implied that all the genocides the Anerikkkan empire “dont count” and “arent as bad as the Holocaust”.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Then when I point out that the US flag is a symbol of hate, genocide, and mass murder, you used it many times to mock me

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Anonymous OP 13w

And to top it off, you and your idiot friends have been insulting me the entire time. So yeah, I’m mad for many reasons that can be summed up as you being a fascist shitstain.

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Anonymous #5 13w

Being opposed to imperialist mass murder isnt “purity politics” and calling it “purity politics” trivializes the millions of lives murdered and enslaved by the US empire. For God’s sake, you guys did a planned famine on Yemen. You raped people to death in Iraq. You slaughtered schoolkids. They were human beings you sick fucks. “Purity politics” you make me sick.

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Anonymous #5 13w

This is the key point of anti-imperialist authors and thinkers: “Fascism” is just when westerners treat each other the same way they’ve always treated colonized peoples. You are the same as the fascists. It infuriates me that you try to pretend otherwise, because it shows how little you care for non-Western life.

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Anonymous #2 13w

ok honestly i get that youre trolling now and i respect the dedication to the bit

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Anonymous OP 13w

Imagine being such a genocidal imperialist that you literally cannot fathom that people would have empathy for your victims. Yikes

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Anonymous #2 13w

imagine being so socially illiterate that no one can finish reading a single sentence of yours without rolling their eyes. you will never change anyones mind ever with this energy. i promise you it has the opposite effect

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Anonymous #2 13w

lmao nothingburger ass argument. i’m giving you an F in my class

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Anonymous OP 13w

I’m not trying to change your mind or save you lol. You benefit from imperialism and genocide. A ruling class never gives up its privilege willingly. You guys are are irreedemably bad people. When you die, you will join your friends heroes, parents, grandparents and ancestors in hell. And the world will be happy.

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Anonymous #2 13w

I replied solely because I dont like seeing your lies go unchallenged

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Anonymous #6 13w

I thought you were blocking or ignoring me? Make up your mind fash

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Anonymous #2 13w

miss girl you live here too. you are ireedemably bad. you are aware of all these horrors yet still live here on the land, paying taxes that contribute to genocides. you benefit from a safe home and protection from war because of your countries actions. you are projecting

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Anonymous #2 13w

i’m not a doctor but you should probably see one because it sounds like you’re experiencing psychosis or delusions of some kind

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Anonymous OP 13w

I’m evil because I havent stopped you yet and let you continue your crimes? Actually, thats a fair point

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Anonymous #5 13w

“This person actually cares about all the people we voted to exterminate or enslave in the Global South. He must have psychosis”. Yeah you’re evil

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Anonymous #2 13w

noones used the word evil but you have like 3 times now and what crimes are we continuing to commit? this is so insane

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Anonymous #2 13w

i know this is the neurodivergent community but for real, this is the craziest and most socially inept conversation ive been in in my entire life its not causw of the content of ur words/ the topics your bringing up, its that youre continuously doing it in a way that is so insane i cant believe a real person is in that brain thinking anything productive could possibly come from this all

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Anonymous #2 13w

like i have autism and social anxiety and suck at talking in general, but ive never seen something like this in my life. i rlly wonder if i could pick you out of a lineup, i think i could

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Anonymous OP 13w

For the millionth time, your crimes are supporting, spreading propaganda for, and voting for genocide and the oppression of billions of people, because it is in your class interests

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Anonymous OP 13w

You have implied many times the people of the Global South, murdered by liberal governments you support, dont count as real genocides. You wave and celebrate the flag of genocide.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Do you think people who spread propaganda justifying slavery and who voted it werent complicit or responsible?

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Anonymous OP 13w

I dont really care what you think or believe. You’re a brainwashed genocider

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Anonymous #2 13w

so you didnt vote? and you let trump win?

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Anonymous OP 13w

So you admit it? You voted for the perpetrators of the Palestinian Genocide and planned famine in Yemen, Kopmala Harris, because it was in your first world class interests?

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Anonymous #2 13w

and just to clarify, is my “spreading of propaganda” when i suggested (on yikyak mind you) that we wave American flags at protests about how the president is ignoring the constitution can any rational part of you see how insane your reaction to this is

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Anonymous #2 13w

ok your officially trolling. there is no way in hell a person actually speaks like that

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Anonymous OP 13w

You literally lied and said this is your country (your ancestors may have slaughtered the original owners, that doesnt make it yours) and then lied again saying “America wasnt founded oj these values”

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Anonymous OP 13w

Literally even imperial history textbooks admif that, yes, Amerikkka was founded on white supremacy and genocide

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Anonymous #2 13w

ggs youre good at trolling but i gtg

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Anonymous OP 13w

And then you said that it is offensive to compare genocides done by Amerikkka to genocides done by other empires. The implication is that your victims “arent real people”

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Anonymous OP 13w

Everything you’ve said is fascist propaganda to justify US imperialism and mass murder. You’re a bad person

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Anonymous #2 13w

cause i voted against trump? how do you feel with every person detained by ice that you contributed to making possible?? and how much have you donated to gaza relief/aid efforts? cause ive actually donated

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Anonymous #2 13w

hm. realll silent on the donations huh

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Anonymous #2 13w

once again would love to know what actions you have taken to fight facism. whining on the internet and *not* doing something you think is “evil” don’t count. name one singular action that YOU have taken to have a positive impact on the fight against fascism and imperialism.

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Anonymous #2 13w

voting for [insert candidate who never had a chance in hell of winning] is also not a meaningful action btw. i’ll wait.

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Anonymous OP 13w

“Voted against Trump” you could have united around a-non genocidal candidate. The voters caused and enabled this. If you had all made genocide or mass murder a red line, it couldnt happen. You have collective responsibility

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Anonymous OP 13w

I have nothing to explain myself to you fascist. I protested, donated, and got in legal trouble.

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Anonymous OP 13w

You dont actually think that donating a few dollars to the genocide you enabled actually cleans the blood off your hands????

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Anonymous #5 13w

You guys are all complicit and guilty. And we know why. Its not ignorance. You literally benefit from genocide and imperialism. As Marx and Lenin explained, you simply are voting in your class interests. This is why this isnt a real “good faith” discussion, as you liberals like to say. You arent a addressing the root reasons you support genocide.

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