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pixi3dvstsniff3r

Self diagnosing is completely understandable for those who cannot afford proper evaluations sure— but the minute that you start taking away accessibility from others who ARE diagnosed and also need it is when it becomes an issue.
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Anonymous 20h

Or just speaking over them. Esp when it’s in the form of “well *I* don’t experience [symptom] so you struggling with it is fake/laziness/attention seeking/etc”

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Anonymous 7h

also: it’s not letting me reply to this particular comment thread because I either blocked #1 or was blocked by them, but when you say that it’s “unfortunate” for people with “mild symptoms” to be granted access to the support they need, how do you Not hear yourself and think “huh, that made me sound kind of heartless & malevolent, wonder if I ought to reconsider”??

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Anonymous 20h

Exactly, I’m in an area where I wouldn’t trust any sort of healthcare professional to tell me which was is up so I am self diagnosed after quite a bit of research and peer review. I do not try and take resources away from those who are diagnosed and I recognize that my experience is going to be different

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Anonymous 8h

Question— how do people take away accessibility from others? Like competing for resources?

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Anonymous 7h

how tf does self-diagnosis “take away accessibility from” people who are professionally diagnosed lmao, this is a non-issue other neurodivergent people are NOT your competition just because we are unable to access evaluation, or reluctant to deal with the medical mistreatment that is often a consequence of having a stigmatized mental health diagnosis on file

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Anonymous 15h

I "self diagnose" (almost everyone I met this past year of college either asked or assumed if I was ADHD, and some of my neurodivergent friends and one of their parents think it as well) ADHD, but I plan on getting tested ASAP whenever I have the money and time, and I NEVER accept accommodations without a proper diagnosis or put down anyone's experience

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20h

Exactly. I respect the person until shit like that

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20h

Exactly. Many people with certain diagnoses don’t even have a sliver of the self-awareness that someone who has self-diagnosed may have, which is an evident sign that the person is higher-functioning or simply on a different part of the spectrum which makes things even worse when resources were taken

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20h

Unfortunately diagnosed people do this shit too :/ I see it a lot with ADHD and people who have very mild symptoms. I think it’s just a lack of empathy and having a superiority complex.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

Oh yeah ofc, it’s just a special kind of jackassery when it comes from people who are strictly self diagnosed

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Because unfortunately, even if someone does have mild symptoms, they are still entitled to that assistance Whilst those who werent even diagnosed at all are taking resources that are necessary for those in or deeper on any spectrum

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 7h

it breaks my heart that no one else has responded to this comment to let you know that you absolutely do deserve the same accommodations as anyone else with ADHD. when you Know that you’re dealing with ADHD symptoms, it’s fucked up for anyone to prefer that you struggle unnecessarily just because you haven’t been evaluated for it yet

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Anonymous replying to -> pixi3dvstsniff3r 7h

genuinely wtf are you on about? sounds like you heard a couple anecdotes about people being diagnosed late in life—after struggling with symptoms & setbacks the whole time—just because their psychiatrists perceived them as “too self-aware”, and instead of going “damn, that’s some really infantilizing ableism” you thought “serves you right, LARPer!”

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

You absolutely deserve accommodations when you need them. Don’t deprive yourself of accommodations just because someone else’s diagnosis process was different or their accommodation needs might be higher, lower, the same, or just similar… what the hell is this mindset that using accommodations, which you know that you might need, is somehow taking it away from someone else…?? this is really REALLY sad to hear, actually.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 6h

Part of it is, the accommodations wouldn't help me anyway. I was stellar at school in my younger years and only slipped off when I got a hobby that became my full-time interest and desired career path. Stuff like extra time on tests wouldn't help; I can learn the material and do fine in the allotted time, but I have no interest. Recording lectures won't help; I'll never go back and listen to it. I'd rather get the diagnosis and figure out what it is I need

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

Part of me is also worried I won't actually have the diagnosis. I've grown up around a lot of neurodivergent individuals which makes me wonder if I've picked up traits. It is possible I masked a little being raised as neurotypical and have recently been more comfortable with myself but I really don't know

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

that’s perfectly reasonable, the thing that sucks is the fact that OP made a post so backhandedly judgmental that you felt like you had to frame “accommodations wouldn’t help me anyway” as like, “I never accept accommodation without professional diagnosis” instead you shouldn’t be pressured into performing “I’m one of the good ones, I promise!!” for peer acceptance (and tbc, that’s not on you, that’s on OP)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

imo the bottom line is just that, if you’re dealing with functional setbacks in life that feel unreasonably difficult for you to overcome (and especially if you’re relating to setbacks experienced by other neurodivergent people), then you deserve the same basic support & assistance as anyone else dealing with those issues

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

Well, also, self-diagnosing is typically frowned upon. I don't go parading around saying I'm ADHD but I'd also feel better in general getting the diagnosis before saying definitively I have anything because what if I don't actually have it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

(which, to be clear, it’s not like I think neurodivergence / other mental health diagnoses have to be defined *exclusively* by the ways in which they debilitate you or cause you distress or anything like that. only focusing on that part rn since it seems like this thread has primarily been about accommodations so far)

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

Tbf, no one's gonna hand out accommodations if you say "noooo I don't actually have it diagnosed I just think I have it" at least not that I know of

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

it should not be frowned upon. that’s what I’m saying. you may not be confident in your own self-assessment, but there are plenty of people who are confident in their own understanding of their neurotype, and who have good reason to feel that way. it’s rudely dismissive when others automatically assume that that confidence is necessarily misplaced

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

It's frowned upon because people like an ex friend of mine who self diagnose but in reality they never had what they claimed they have and were faking it for attention (they weren't faking neurodivergence but same principle)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

earnestly no disrespect intended, but I’m not sure I understand what that has to do with what I was saying bc yeah, part of why OP’s complaint is such a non-issue is the fact that on an institutional level, accommodations already aren’t granted to people who don’t have paperwork to show what I’m saying is that having doubts about whether you qualify for professional diagnosis doesn’t mean you’re undeserving of support with whatever issues you experience that lead you to believe you have ADHD

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

personally what I frown upon is automatically feeling like it’s fair to invalidate other people’s assessments of their own health just because *some* people are dishonest sometimes. it really should not be a controversial take to say that bad faith dismissal is harmful

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6h

tbqh if you’re going to say that you self-diagnose, but then also turn around and justify self-diagnosis being “frowned upon”, I’m not sure I wanna discuss this subject with you any further because I find that type of cognitive dissonance / “but I’m one of the good ones” stuff immensely frustrating

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Anonymous replying to -> pixi3dvstsniff3r 6h

What do you mean unfortunately…?

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

Ohhhh

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

It truly doesn’t but OP just wants something to complain about

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6h

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to offend or frustrate anyone. Because of my personal experience with people and not being sure how to handle certain things, i understand my viewpoint might be different and even incorrect. That's why I don't necessarily say I "self diagnose" and would much rather get a diagnosis first than claim I have it

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 5h

strikes me as a deeply unsettling type of power-hungriness whenever someone receives institutional authorization in a given area and then feels compelled to turn around and use that petty sense of authority as a cudgel against their (oftentimes less-privileged in some sense, lbr) peers

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5h

No need you apologize, friend! You’re totally valid in what you do. I think some of us are just miffed by some of what OP implied rather than truly offended by it. It’s a slippery slope and we’re waving our arms like “hey wait no no no turn back now, there’s bad things down there”

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