Anonymous #1 4w

Whether that’s a god awful amount of cologne or smelling so stinky it’s offensive

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Anonymous #1 4w

While we can have empathy we can also have mindfulness 🙏

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Anonymous #1 4w

if people have such debilitating symptoms that they would commit suicide, it’s not a far leap to guess some have such debilitating symptoms that they wouldn’t wear deodorant despite wanting to. if you want people to wear deodorant, help make therapy more accessible (or shut up 👍)

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Anonymous OP 4w

I’m not just talking about deodorant I’m just talking about not smelling awful. Do whatever works for you but like just because your mental situation explains something doesn’t mean it gives you an excuse to smell offensive

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Anonymous OP 4w

if it was a lack of access that’s one thing. Like if you’re destitute or your shower is broken and you have no means to fix it or find another way. If it’s just because of mental stuff, I think while we can lead with empathy, we do also have to advocate for respect and sanitary practices

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Anonymous #1 4w

And of course therapy is a must, especially at that point

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Anonymous #1 4w

people DIE “just because of mental stuff.” you clearly don’t take this seriously. get off my post.

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Anonymous OP 4w

If you see my comment dont try and argue with me, i was at the point of wanting to kms too, i could barely get up but i always understood when my mom pointed out a smell- i asked for help- hygiene is important

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Anonymous #1 4w

Not everyone can access therapy or have the resources for that

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Anonymous #2 4w

I’m also very sensitive to smells. but harping on others doesn’t help when they KNOW they should but still can’t. it’s a mental disorder/illness for a reason, so it can look ugly. I only get offended because people don’t take mental illness seriously enough to consider that it can’t be packed away out of sight.

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Anonymous #2 4w

hygiene is important, not as important as staying alive. just because it’s important doesn’t make someone suddenly able to do it.

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Anonymous OP 4w

(in response to your other reply)

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Anonymous OP 4w

Im not saying it should be, i just think there should be more support for helping people with hygiene and boundaries around smells in public. I was barely thinking and still asking for some sort of hygiene support before leaving the house/seeing people- my point is, theres always a way- even if it pushes you

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Anonymous #2 4w

Saying “if you see my comment don’t try and argue with me” is really dumb. People are going to reply to your comment if you comment it in the first place. It’s like saying “don’t argue with me because I know I’m wrong” yes hygiene is important, but you are completely missing the point. Also not everyone has access or can ask for help

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Anonymous #2 4w

Mental health does really hurt people, i understand all your points, im just pointing out that advocating for it and those who need it shouldnt be demonized…even if its some jokes here and there

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Anonymous #2 4w

I’m glad you were able to overcome the hygiene side of things, however not everyone is able to do so. mental illness is different for everyone. also, chemo is an extremely harrowing experience, but it’s not a good comparison to things like executive dysfunction.

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Anonymous #2 4w

jokes at the expense of people with mental illness is the opposite of advocating hello? 😭

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Anonymous #2 4w

Eh, it’s unreasonable to expect people going through debilitating mental disorders to even be able to have the energy to put on deodorant. Mental disorders are not pretty.

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Anonymous #3 4w

yeah, the idea that they’re just lazy or purposefully negligent is super harmful. lots of those people can’t do it and don’t know why, and they struggle with ostracizing when they should be supported and pushed to get help.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Jokes here and there? wtf. No, don’t joke about people’s hygiene if you know they are going through depression. That is the least helpful, most harmful thing you can do and solves nothing. Instead of it bothers you that much you can talk with them, offer them support?

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Anonymous OP 4w

Everyone jokes about literally everything, if the joke doesnt go far (as in a light joke, like the one you are complaining about) i personally think its fine. As to your chemo response, i dont personally wish to discuss my mental health on a yikyak posy for my safety, thats why i brought up the chemotherapy, it keeps you in bed in similar ways. (1/2)

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Anonymous #2 4w

(1/3) To your claim about not everyone having access, i understand and wish things were different, i personally work as volunteer to give out such products..again my point is people should be allowed to complain about bad smells in public, mental health related or not

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Anonymous #3 4w

Read my most recent comment

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Anonymous #2 4w

it’s not comparable to this specific aspect of mental illness. not to say it’s more/less severe, just different. also, if you think light jokes are fine, I’m sure you’d be ok with making one about fat people. because obviously it’s a joke so it’s ok!

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Anonymous #2 4w

you can complain ig but you shouldn’t shame others for it lmao

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Ask Jolina where she got her medical degree.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I dont agree with that they are lazy or doing it on purpose, i just think if you smell, you smell- if your depression is so bad you smell? People are gonna say something, just like if you were to smell shit on a cow farm or a fart..it just happens

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Anonymous OP 4w

Sorry idk how to comment properly >_>

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Anonymous #2 4w

girl, the OP was shaming. it wasn’t a passing comment, it was her not taking mental illness seriously.

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Anonymous #4 4w

you’re good lol

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Anonymous #2 4w

Oh yeah no one is stopping you from complaining but you still might be seen as an asshole

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Anonymous OP 4w

I take jokes about cancer all the time, and same with sh scars, its not like complaining about them to a app of randos is going to help..humor in the dark can really help

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Anonymous OP 4w

“I dont care what you are going through” doesnt mean mental health- it could be a break up or a busy morning, or simply forgetting…she didnt say “ i dont care if youre mentally ill”

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Anonymous #2 4w

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to complain. But people are allowed to have differing opinions from that complaint. No one is stopping you from complaining, no one is stopping you from looking like an asshole

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Anonymous #3 4w

“ don’t respond” is saying this is my point, to this specific argument, not, dont respond to this entire conversation..

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Anonymous #2 4w

We are talking specifically about depression and mental health. Stay on topic

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Anonymous #2 4w

Also you said “if you see this comment don’t try to argue with me” that really doesn’t sound like making a point, it sounds like you don’t want people to argue with you because many disagree with the point you are making and the wording.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Its like im arguing with a wall

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Anonymous #3 4w

AM I TALKING TO MYSELF?

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Anonymous #2 4w

Yes. Yes you are. You replied to your own comment.

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Anonymous #2 4w

How so? Everything I said and others said was clear. What do you not understand?

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Anonymous #3 4w

I dont care if you disagree, i honestly just think you cant read what im saying deeper than “hygiene is important, if you smell, you deserve to be told so, kindly hopefully but if not, complaining isnt helpful, even if its because of mental health/lack of access..

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Anonymous #3 4w

NONE OF YOU CAN GET JOKES

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Anonymous #3 4w

The op of the post yall are complaining about didnt say anything about mental health

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Anonymous #2 4w

Your jokes aren’t funny and are offensive and rude. People are just calling you out.

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Anonymous #3 4w

GOD FORBID SOMEONE NOT LIKE A BAD SMELL

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Anonymous #2 4w

I think you need to take a break from YikYak for a bit, you have been writing a bunch of absurd comments about talking to a wall and talking to yourself. A lot of comments are in caps as well. Are you okay?

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Anonymous #2 4w

Exactly. You haven’t even made a single joke. Even if you did it would probably be offensive and rude. No one is stopping you from complaining, but just know that someone might tell you otherwise. Most people don’t like bad smells, you are correct, but most of us keep our mouths shut and know to understand that people struggle with mental health conditions and hygiene. If you really have a problem with a friend who struggles with hygiene it is best to be respectful and talk with them, support.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Calm down this isnt a kindergarten class, being annoyed over the absurdity of the responses im getting doesnt mean im unwell, dont try to diagnose me

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Anonymous #2 4w

That’s funny you are telling me to calm down, I’m in my bed enjoying a drink. You are the one writing in all caps and writing comments saying how you are talking to yourself. I suggest you take a break. I’m not diagnosing you with anything I’m just suggesting you take a little break.

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Anonymous #3 4w

God help me. i would never, call someone out to their face, or around others for smelling, thats horrible, on the other hand, complaining in general about B.O ( not about anyone or anyone with mental health issues) is valid. Again, no one deserves to their face” you reek” but if you have had a respectful and supportive conversation with a friend, who pointed out B.O and see them saying they dont like B.O, it’s probably not about you, its like if you live with a smoker but hate the smell of smoke

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No it doesn’t? The definition of calm down is “to stop being angry, upset, or excited” what are you on about?

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Anonymous #5 4w

This!

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Anonymous #2 4w

girl you’re getting blocked, please stfu 😭 it’s not a joke when you’re just showing your contempt for others you don’t empathize with

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Anonymous #5 4w

This! For me, it’s my meds. I want to take them regularly so damn badly and I feel guilty when I miss it which makes me overthink. Where other people would just start back up the next night, I end up getting so in my head about it that I end up missing my meds for maybe a week

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Anonymous #6 4w

This has happened so many times to me 😭 I’m exactly the same way. I feel guilty and in my head then miss a week

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Anonymous #2 4w

buddy you need to take some time off social media if this is your reaction to a comment conversation in yikyak of all things.

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Anonymous #7 4w

you probs harass bigger people to “help them get fit,” I don’t want to hear it from you

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Anonymous OP 4w

Girl no I don’t, applying deodorant takes like 2 fucking seconds and btw people don’t wanna smell your body odor. I don’t care about “depression” WEAR DEODORANT IF YOU GO OUT IN PUBLIC

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Anonymous #7 4w

putting depression in quotes as if you don’t believe in it 💀 get out of the ND community you apathetic freak

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Anonymous #1 4w

Wow this comment section just proves how ignorant and unempathetic people are to how deeply deptession effects your ability to function. There’s nothing wrong with letting someone know that they don’t smell good for whatever reason, but especially body odor. But…

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Anonymous #9 4w

There is something deeply flawed in acknowledging that you understand someone has depression while simultaneously saying their depression has nothing to do with their hygiene. For many people, depression is a significant factor in their inability to maintain personal hygiene. I would much rather you smell awful for a while if it means you have enough mental energy to stay alive… if it means you have enough spoons to not kill yourself. That's what OP is saying…. !!!

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Anonymous #9 4w

What the OP is saying is that the bad smell is unlikely to kill you, your comment to that person about their odor or suggesting they need to improve despite their depression could be the tipping point that leads them to take drastic actions, like ending their life. This is a serious issue and it HAPPENS in real life. Here is an example of a depressed person's thought process...

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Anonymous #9 4w

“Depression shouldn't make you not wear deodorant.” -Jolina “Right. They're right. I can't even do this one basic thing. I am so useless. This is the proof. I'm not just sick, I'm a failure. Everyone must notice. Everyone must be disgusted. It would be better for everyone if I just... stopped being here.” -Depressed Human

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Anonymous #3 4w

🤣🤣

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Anonymous #10 4w

that’s actually so unfortunate ngl

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Anonymous #11 4w

Been there*

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Anonymous #11 4w

Babe the point is when I literally am contemplating continuing life, I’m not thinking about deodorant. If you’ve been there, then you would get it. When I am unable to get out of bed or eat or do anything because I want to die, my hygiene is not on the top of my mind.

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Anonymous #7 4w

There are medical conditions that result in body odor no matter a persons hygiene level. You don’t know what someone is going through and it doesn’t help to open that smelly mouth of urs to make these comment

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Anonymous #2 4w

you seem like an unkind and terrible person to be around. consider being more empathetic and getting off your phone.

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Anonymous #2 4w

You literally said how it’s okay to make jokes about it. Stop trying to switch up.

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Anonymous #1 4w

i think killing yourself is also a lil disrespectful but hey maybe we got different standards

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Anonymous #2 4w

That’s great you could keep ur hygiene up, but not everyone is you. Mental illness is not the same for each person. Don’t say dumb shit and people won’t argue with you

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dude im agreeing with you. im saying that someone killing themselves is worse than someone smelling bad.

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Anonymous #12 4w

Girl how would you even know if I’ve been there or not. I have. I’ve been so depressed that I didn’t shower or eat for weeks but I didn’t subject other people to my stink bc I stayed home. Also if you can’t get out of bed, your reply to my comment is irrelevant bc again it was about making other people have to deal with your situation too. It’s disrespectful, that’s all I’m saying. I didn’t say you’re lazy or a bad person if you’re going through that.

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Anonymous #11 4w

obviously it’s a bad thing to smell bad in public, but the ENTIRE point of my post was that we KNOW it’s a bad thing. shaming us for it doesn’t help, it drives us deeper into that depression.

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Anonymous OP 4w

if you can’t bring yourself to shower or even put on deodorant and don’t know why your brain is doing that to you, others shaming you for it makes you feel broken and irreparable. it’s like telling a bigger person they need to lose weight. it doesn’t fucking help.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I do agree with that, people do need to give others compassion and grace. I’m not supporting people being like “EW YOU STINK” and just bullying people for being depressed. I’m just suggesting that people be mindful, that’s all🫶

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Anonymous #11 4w

ok yeah we agree then

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Anonymous #11 4w

#11 is trying to backpedal into “I’m just suggesting mindfulness”, but their first comment wasn’t about mindfulness at all. It was a blunt directive If you wanted to ‘suggest mindfulness,’ you wouldn’t have said…I'll just quote your first comment verbatim. “Girl if other people can SMELL YOU it's a problem. I've *been there, I get it. But don't subject others to your stink. Stay home if you're not gonna at LEAST wear deodorant or perfume”

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Anonymous #11 4w

#11 immediately shift the focus from what outsiders should change in their perspective to what depressed people should change in their behavior The OP wasn’t giving hygiene tips to depressed people. The post was calling out the Jolinas who shame people for symptoms of depression. Turning it into ‘what depressed people need to do’ shifts the burden back on the person who’s already suffering, instead of addressing the real issue: ✨how we respond to them✨

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Anonymous #9 4w

Girl you’re crashing out for no reason and reopening an argument that is over

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You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m not pressed about it

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Anonymous #11 4w

Just pointing out #11’s deflection Opinion vs. fact… “stay home if you stink” is an opinion framed as a directive (a rule #11 feels people should follow). My response was more fact-based: depression impairs function, shame makes it worse. That’s not ‘my opinion’ it’s backed up by mental health research I also pointed out that the OP wasn’t giving hygiene advice but calling out stigma

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Anonymous #9 4w

Girl i literally said “people do need to give others grace” and that we shouldn’t bully people for things like that. I’m literally agreeing with you, why are you trying to argue? Are you really that bored that you’d try to argue over literally nothing. I’m aware OP wasn’t giving hygiene advice, I was saying to be mindful lmao

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