Anonymous #4 1w

all were professionally diagnosed, social anxiety disorder is in the dsm v, all after 18 minus adhd

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Anonymous #4 1w

the only one you’d have any merit would be saying that CPTSD isn’t in the dsm v, but it’s listed as atypical PTSD for me. it’s similar enough that my psychologist noted that he’d diagnose me with it if we were under the ICD-11

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Anonymous OP 1w

1. Ok my bad, it’s a disorder. 2. Unless you never saw a doctor age 5-18, someone would’ve caught that you had autism. Diagnosing autism after childhood is a guessing game, and doesn’t help the patient in anyway. 3. I’m sorry you’re going through all of this. Cptsd especially is a bitch. I would just recommend trying not to define yourself by your disorders. Bpd can be treated effectively with DBT therapy. GAD is so broad that anyone in the USA could get diagnosed with it.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I don’t doubt you have these things. I’d just argue they are not as disabling as you’re making it out to be. Mental health is complicated. I know it’s cliche but sometimes you gotta trick yourself into getting better. DBT helps a lot of the people I work with take control of their own lives.

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Anonymous #4 1w

i was tested in childhood and retested as as an adult. 15 years of difference. it’s not a guessing game after childhood. that’s ludicrous. i got retested (hell of a lot of money there lol), had clinical interviews including familial, and it was concluded i was level 1. if it were under the old system, i would’ve been classified as asperger’s. if you’re spreading shit like this online, please do your research first!! but yes, i plan on DBT

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Anonymous OP 1w

i wanted the diagnosis for clarity’s sake, that’s it

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Anonymous OP 1w

as in autism

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Anonymous #4 1w

you also do not know anything about me, i’m afraid. but i am seeking treatment before i fuck up my life too much

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not spreading shit except for my opinion. You’re free to block me and anyone else who you disagree with. I guess I disagree with the sentiment of “can I fucking live Jesus”. None of the things you listed stop you from living a fully productive life. And all of them have treatments or cures through medication and or therapy. We all have shit to overcome

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Anonymous #4 1w

your opinion is meaningless, and you’re assigning some projection on me when you know nothing about me. i was venting about how difficult these disorders can be, i’m not saying that i’m a helpless person who is unable to seek help. you’re showing arrogance imo, do better next time w someone else

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Anonymous OP 1w

1. My opinion on you has just as much meaning as your opinion on mine. 2. Only thing I know about you is a list of alleged diagnosis. You said nothing about the difficulties of these disorders. 3. You’re free to think I’m arrogant. And I’m free to think what I want. 4. Im not assigning any projection. You’re projecting helplessness “can I fucking live”. Asking for sympathy for 1st world problems/ disorders 5. Glad you’re seeking help.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Holy fuck do you have to be so insufferable? Lol you didn’t need to come in here being a complete asshole

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Anonymous #1 1w

In the words of the great OP “your opinion is meaningless”

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Anonymous #4 1w

1. congrats? 2. yes that is EXACTLY my fucking point 3. congrats, but i’m more rooted in the words you’re saying. you have kept using a patronizing and dismissive tone for reasons that idfk. “b-but i’m not dismissive!! that’s your opinion”. please reread. or, screenshot this text convo, send it to someone random and ask who comes off more patronizing 4. you literally were?? you assumed that i was helpless when i was venting frustration. you also undermined medical literature. that is arrogance

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Anonymous #4 1w

Sure but I’m genuinely asking like, what was the point of this? They’re just screaming into the void, let them exist, don’t contribute with negativity

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Anonymous #4 1w

i can’t tell if you’re trolling right now. i said your opinion is meaningless because it is based on assumptions. i have done my research for years. you are not a doctor (clearly). you a) assumed that SAD isn’t a real disorder and b) said that adult autism is a guessing game and it was destined to have been caught in childhood clearly, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

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Anonymous #4 1w

oh, and so your “opinion” basically means you can say anything, even if it’s wrong, and hide behind the word opinion when someone calls you out. that’s not how logic works. if your “opinion” goes against evidence and lived experience, it is wrong. saying an apple tastes better than an orange is an opinion someone talking about an experience they went through and dismissing it isn’t a valid opinion, that’s just being an asshole

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Anonymous OP 1w

I am dismissive of people who go “poor me” about 1st world mental health struggles. I assumed you thought you were helpless because that is the messaging of your original post. “Like ughhhh I have all these things. Can I fucking live?”. That’s not projection, that’s observation. You call it patronizing, I call it questioning your mindset. I never said I wasn’t.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You didn’t talk about any experience. You listed a bunch of things and said poor me. I said you should work through it. That’s an opinion. And yes, an opinion means you can say anything. I can say there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster controlling the senate. I can say you have a victim mentality. You can call me rude, and I can call you rude.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I am letting them exist? You can not control the actions thoughts or opinions of others. If you don’t like it, do something about it (block).

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Anonymous #4 1w

Brother you’re trying entirely too hard to be contrarian

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Anonymous OP 1w

I was mistaken about SAD and I corrected myself. Adult autism is largely a guessing game. If you made it to adulthood without being diagnosed, you’re not gonna get anything of value from a diagnosis, other than a victim complex. A poor me mentality

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Anonymous #4 1w

this is like the most moronic take ever. you’re not a doctor, you are clueless, you are not qualified to diagnose or undiagnosed anyone with autism. you are clueless and willfully ignorant

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Anonymous #4 1w

also, if you’re going to say random unverifiable shit like this, please back it up with medical literature! provide sources too

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Observation requires evidence, like your poor me post. I admitted to being dismissive against poor me mentality and the over diagnosis of mental health disorders in functioning young adults. It is a first world problem. None of the things you listed are problems in part of the world with real material problems. They’re part of a victim mentality. That is my opinion.

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Anonymous #4 1w

also this reiterates my entire point and you’re using it as a defense because you seemingly struggle with logical thinking and reasoning. this IS patronizing by every definition of the word. your interpretation (not observation! key difference in these words) is based upon no evidence. again, you projected helplessness. you were combative immediately, for idfk why. you also still struggle with knowing what subjectivity and opinions are, for some reason. it’s a logical fallacy after another

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My opinion, based on your original post that I observed and your comments under this post, is that you have a victim mentality based on either some real abuse or trauma. You listed 8 different things and said “why me god” rather than thinking about a way to fix those things. Complaining gets nobody nowhere. That’s an opinion. I’m not your doctor.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I didn’t project helplessness. You posted it…

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Anonymous #4 1w

you’re making your position even weaker here logically. overdiagnosis here is an empirical claim that needs evidence. so far, you have provided none. yes, you are 100% free to have a moral judgment. however, yours is prejudiced and biased for whatever reason. “yes, i’m dismissive and i think your issues are pathetic and first world issues”. congrats! that’s subjectivity although, neurodevelopmental disorders, again, are not concurrent in first world countries and are not based upon class.

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Anonymous #4 1w

you projected that >>>I<<< was helpless. that’s what i was getting at this entire time. venting about issues that impact my life isn’t mutually exclusive with helplessness. also, complaining isn’t mutually exclusive with not getting help. you can do both, and whether you think complaining is useless is ALSO subjective (see that word again?)

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Anonymous OP 1w

They are based on class. Poor people don’t have the luxury of getting diagnosed with these things for the most part and even if they did, it doesn’t change their material standing in the world. They can’t say “why me god” and complain about it. Don’t start with me on class, I’ll smoke ya.

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Anonymous #4 1w

being combative, and then being surprised when the person being combatted is defensive, is just… i don’t even have words. my original post took maybe 10 seconds to write and is not representative of my entire being.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I never said you or your problems were pathetic? You have clearly been over diagnosed based on how you’re posting about it. For example, GAD and SAD have TONNNNS of overlap, and no difference in treatment.

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Anonymous #4 1w

you got something right! yes, poor people often don’t have the luxury of being diagnosed! however, neurodevelopmental disorders are there since birth. if two people with ASD were born into a rich family in california and also another in burkina faso, just because one was privileged enough to receive the diagnosis doesn’t mean the one from burkina faso isn’t autistic themselves “clearly been overdiagnosed” and then admitting YOURSELF you are not a doctor. zero qualification btw

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m not combative, I’m challenging your post’s stance of helplessness. If you see that as combative, you’ve proved my point that you are basing your personality around this shit and any challenging of your victim mentality is a personal attack, which it is not.

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Anonymous #4 1w

are you reading what i’m saying? good god

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Anonymous OP 1w

I didn’t project that you were helpless. You posted that you were helpless. You posted that you were asking “god” to help you and give you a break. You’re literally posting “poor me 😥” and then claiming you didn’t say you were helpless

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Anonymous #4 1w

you are struggling to comprehend what i’ve told you, again and again. that is, —>by definition—<, projecting that i am helpless. you are relying on subjective interpretation yet again. that has no logical merit. you can believe that if you want, but the lack of logical merit is on you. if you want to prove yourself, come up with some medical literature right now to back up your previous statements about adult autism btw. saying that SAD and GAD overlap isn’t even a thing i was arguing against

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Anonymous #4 1w

if this helps, what you are doing is qualified as projection. to break it down very very simply, you assume emotional intent from my phrasing, when i have repeatedly told you that i was venting frustration, not helplessness. reaffirm this with a ✅ if you understand, or an ❌ if you need further breakdown

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Anonymous #4 1w

to further help your case, i’d invite you to look at any argument i’ve given, provide reasoning-backed evidence of why it’s fallacious, and i’ll respond

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Anonymous OP 1w

Fuck literature. Google can tell you they have almost the same diagnostic tests. And most people with GAD are also going to have some SAD. They’re not the same but they’re similar. That’s not even me trying to be contrarian or opinionated, it’s just facts. If interpreting “Jesus can I live” as helplessness or victim mentality is subjective then call me subjective.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You claim I’m patronizing but you’re trying to talk to me with emojis… Your response will be “yeah well you’re so stupid and not listening to me” My response would be “yeah neither are you” You really need DBT on the asap

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Anonymous OP 1w

You haven’t really made any argument.

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Anonymous #4 1w

“fuck literature” and then pivots to google… which is based off (in this case), literature or explanations of it. i’m not even fighting the SAD and GAD overlap, i don’t understand why you keep coming back to that. yes, they are not the same but similar. i don’t know why you used that as a “gotcha” yes, that is subjectivity. you got it

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Anonymous OP 1w

You brought it back up after I backed down from the SAD/GAD thing. Reread

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Anonymous #4 1w

i’m mirroring your tone. doesn’t feel nice, does it? and yes, i have made several arguments. you can reread if you have trouble remembering “you really need DBT” is irrelevant here, but i won’t fight that due to its irrelevancy.

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Anonymous OP 1w

ad hominem btw

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Anonymous OP 1w

My tone is that you have a victim complex. Your tone is one that is emotionally hurt by someone questioning your victim complex. You’ve resulted to personal name calling and belittling, which I have not. Only argument you’ve tried to make is that begging for help from god doesn’t imply helplessness. Which most people would probably agree does.

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’ve done tons of ad hominems. This isn’t debate club.

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Anonymous #4 1w

by definition, “you need DBT” is an ad hominem. yes you have resulted to it “god help me” is an idiom of exasperation. it is not literal. it does not mean, in this case, literally be begging a god to help me.

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Anonymous #4 1w

“this isn’t debate club” and then treating it as one. lol. “but i’m not treating it as one! i’m simply calling you out for being helpless” i can already envision your responses like clockwork “but i wasn’t going to say that!” if you have nothing to add beyond further subjectivity, then i don’t see any point

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Anonymous #4 1w

you have belittled a ton. i am simply responding in the same fashion

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Anonymous #4 1w

unless you can find evidence-backed reasoning to prove anything i have said wrong, beyond a reason of any doubt, i’m finished discussing. this is a continuous circle

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Anonymous OP 1w

Im done with this and will be turning off notifications. I’ve seen and helped 3 people who used to think just like you DBT does wonders. I don’t know you personally, only the things you’ve said here. My subjective opinion is that asking god for help from disorders that don’t stop you from helping yourself, is a victim mentality. You’ve resorted to name calling and downvoting when this victim mentality was questioned. You’re free to think what you want and I hope you overcome your obstacles.

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Anonymous #4 1w

same to you! i hope you get better at logical reasoning and reading compression. straight up ignoring when i said it was an idiom is something, honestly. i have nothing further to add that was not already reiterated tenfold. you’re free to think what you want, and i hope you overcome your obstacles. take care!

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