Anonymous #1 19w

I think they could be switched with the Bears but it’s bc they lost a lot, I’m not high on Goff, I think their true contender window has closed. I think they’ll continue to beat up on mediocre teams but once they have to go on the road against tougher teams they’ll fold.

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Anonymous #2 19w

Why do you think that?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I still don’t think they’re going to miss the playoffs

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Drake maye has improved a lot over the summer. A lot of new offensive weapons. Henderson has a chance for roty. The defense looks absolutely stacked this year and Vrabel is the perfect coach.

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Anonymous #2 19w

AFC is too stacked for them to make it imo. I do also think they’ve improved a significantly and can possibly make it, but I just can’t see it happening quite yet

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Anonymous #3 19w

Jets suck, dolphins suck. Josh Allen has a bad year, the bills suck. Idk man it’s ups in the air this year

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Anonymous #2 19w

I’ll give u the Jets for sure they’ll be a bottom 5 team in my eyes. Dolphins I think will start hot and come crashing down in the second half of the season, and the Bills are winning that division let’s be for real now. I have the Pats going a respectable 9-8 and finishing 2nd just shy of the playoffs

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Anonymous #1 19w

I think they regress but still win the division. It’ll be tough battle with all 4 teams but I say the Lions win it with a 10-7 record

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Anonymous #1 19w

That’s fair but 4 teams from a division can’t all make the playoffs and the Lions seem to be the worst team. Maybe they have 1 more year to not be on the bottom of that division again but until they get a new QB in there they’re not gonna be a top team in that division again.

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Anonymous #2 19w

While all of that is true I still wonder how that OL will play before I’m certain that they’re a playoff team, for now I have them as a potential wildcard team.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I don’t think the Vikings or Bears will be better. We’re also talking about a 1 seed from last year not making the playoffs.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Will Campbell my king🙏🏻

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 19w

Broncos are dark horses meaning they’d have to have a lot go right to get there. Ravens get so close every year and I feel like this could be their year…although I do kinda have concerns about their pass rush, I don’t think it’ll be bad at all but I wonder how good it’ll be against the better OLs.

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 19w

Ravens too high is crazy they’re contenders every year they just beat themselves everytime 😂

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Anonymous #1 19w

They lost a lot and that’s not easy to come back from especially when their QB is very reliant on good play calling. Also the other teams in that division bulked up a lot…if JJ pans out to at least be decent there’s a good chance they fight the Packers for the division. I think the Lions could beat out the Bears tho but if we’re looking at things as teams playing to their best I don’t see the Lions beating out the other teams in their division.

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Anonymous #2 19w

I do like Will but he’s only one guy.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Nah he’s the whole line, he’s 5 men as himself

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Anonymous #5 19w

They improved all of their major weaknesses and KOC is a QB whisperer. On top of that the Lions got weaker. Lastly they’re a dark horse which means they’d need a lot to go right to get that far.

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Anonymous #5 19w

Beat themselves up yet almost always stay in games to potentially win, they’re too good to just put as a playoff team.

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Anonymous #2 19w

Fair enough, undefeated season and 50 year dynasty underway.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I think they’re just cursed bc the past 2 years they were easily within reach both games and just fumbled at the worst times

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Anonymous #5 19w

They still could’ve won last year if Andrews didn’t drop the ball. Also the year prior against the Chiefs they just did the dumbest crap ever by abandoning the run in a close game with an entire half of football to play and tried having a shootout with the best shootout team in the NFL.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Yeah w the Bills they wouldn’t have even been in that position if it wasn’t for Lamar’s turnovers. But he did clean up in the second half tho

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

There you go now you get it

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

QB whisperer? If that was the case then the Vikings would’ve made the playoffs in 2023. He couldn’t work his magic with Nick Mullens, Josh Dobbs, or Jaren Hall

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Anonymous #3 19w

He got the most out of career backups…KOC is responsible for getting Darnold paid and reviving his career.

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Anonymous prizesobermode 19w

Like you said they don’t have a good roster. They do however have some pieces but I don’t see them winning a lot of games but I also can’t see them being a complete dumpster fire of a team.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I can't see ward overcoming our roster enough to win 5 games. This team will look better but I don't think we win a single game more than last season.

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Anonymous prizesobermode 19w

I can see them at best getting 7 wins which I’d say is mediocre

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Ah. That's fair

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Anonymous #3 19w

Yeah he’s #6, dude said some dumb shit then blocked me.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Figures. Dude was insufferable

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Anonymous #3 19w

Fr, some people don’t deserve access to the internet.

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Anonymous #11 19w

Also, when I say I completely agree, I mean with my team's placement, not the entire picture, I dont know enough about this season to make a judgment on that

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Anonymous #11 19w

I see dark horses as teams that are good and aren’t really seen as favorites to be contenders however if most-all things were to go well (like injuries not being an issue and players developing) they’d have a chance at making the SB. For the Vikings I think they have a well constructed team and great play calling on both sides of the ball however how good JJ is next year can be the difference between them repeating their type of season like last year or them making a real run in the playoffs.

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Anonymous #11 19w

I see the Broncos being in a similar situation where if Nix takes a big leap in development the Broncos could really go far. I also think a little bit of luck needs to be involved too like getting the ball last in a close game or a team being without a key player or something like that.

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Anonymous #11 19w

That’s fair

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Okay yeah I get that and I appreciate that you explained it well too

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Anonymous #12 19w

Dark horses doesn’t mean they’re better than the contenders, ig I should’ve put them below the contenders. Stafford isn’t confirmed to be out for the season and this is based on him being healthy.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I'm fine with the list for the most part then. I think I'd only make a couple small changes

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Anonymous #12 19w

Word, like what?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I'd switch falcons and jags with bengals and lions tbh. Bengals are due for a bounce back year and hopefully won't get off to a slow start bc the starters actually got a little play time in the preseason Lions have a tough schedule I get it but they're still going to be really good

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Anonymous #12 19w

I don’t think the Bengals are going to be a playoff team with how bad their defense is yet again. Lions have a tough schedule and lost a lot of important people and didn’t fill enough holes for me to be fully confident in them especially since I’m not high on Goff and if this new OC isn’t as good as Johnson and McVay are then Goff isn’t gonna play that good and the Lions aren’t going to go very far. I think they miss the playoffs this year and move on from Goff in the offseason.

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Anonymous #12 19w

I also could see the Lions at best getting 3rd place in their division over the Bears and being wildcard exits but I think that’s likely to not happen this year.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I don't think it's a guarantee that the packers do better than the lions tbh that's why I'd have them on the same tier

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Anonymous #12 19w

That’s fair but I think they will do better, losing one coach is one thing but having to replace a lot of your coaching staff is another thing along with losing key players on the OL.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

That's true, I didn't really consider the OL. Ig we'll see. Doesn't mean the recipe will be bad every time if you change a few ingredients

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Anonymous #12 19w

No but they unfortunately play in a really tough division and I’d arguably say the best division in the NFL currently.

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Anonymous #12 19w

Also the other teams in their division improved lot more than the Lions did and they didn’t nearly lose as much as the Lions did.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

Prolly true, all they gotta do is beat out Green Bay OR Vikings bc it's not a guarantee that the new Vikings qb will be amazing yet

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Anonymous #12 19w

I think JJ will do well for his first year, I think the Lions have a better shot at beating out the Bears than they do anyone else in their division.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 19w

I think he will do well but there is bound to be a learning curve. I think bears will be a better team at the end of the year than their record implies, prolly get off to a slow start

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Anonymous #12 19w

There is going to be a bit of a learning curve, however, JJ was drafted high with little tape bc of how smart he is, athletic upside, and how he essentially seemed to remain calm in high stress scenarios when called upon to make plays. He also had a full year to sit and learn the offense. I fully expect him to have minimal errors as I also think the Vikings will be more run dominate at first to setup easier plays for JJ in the passing game. I think JJ very well could become a fringe top 15 QB by

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Anonymous #12 19w

The end of the season.

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