Anonymous #1 3w

I think they could be switched with the Bears but it’s bc they lost a lot, I’m not high on Goff, I think their true contender window has closed. I think they’ll continue to beat up on mediocre teams but once they have to go on the road against tougher teams they’ll fold.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Why do you think that?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I still don’t think they’re going to miss the playoffs

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Drake maye has improved a lot over the summer. A lot of new offensive weapons. Henderson has a chance for roty. The defense looks absolutely stacked this year and Vrabel is the perfect coach.

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Anonymous #2 3w

AFC is too stacked for them to make it imo. I do also think they’ve improved a significantly and can possibly make it, but I just can’t see it happening quite yet

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Anonymous #3 3w

Jets suck, dolphins suck. Josh Allen has a bad year, the bills suck. Idk man it’s ups in the air this year

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Anonymous #2 3w

I’ll give u the Jets for sure they’ll be a bottom 5 team in my eyes. Dolphins I think will start hot and come crashing down in the second half of the season, and the Bills are winning that division let’s be for real now. I have the Pats going a respectable 9-8 and finishing 2nd just shy of the playoffs

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Anonymous #1 3w

I think they regress but still win the division. It’ll be tough battle with all 4 teams but I say the Lions win it with a 10-7 record

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Anonymous #1 3w

That’s fair but 4 teams from a division can’t all make the playoffs and the Lions seem to be the worst team. Maybe they have 1 more year to not be on the bottom of that division again but until they get a new QB in there they’re not gonna be a top team in that division again.

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Anonymous #2 3w

While all of that is true I still wonder how that OL will play before I’m certain that they’re a playoff team, for now I have them as a potential wildcard team.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I don’t think the Vikings or Bears will be better. We’re also talking about a 1 seed from last year not making the playoffs.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Will Campbell my king🙏🏻

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 3w

Broncos are dark horses meaning they’d have to have a lot go right to get there. Ravens get so close every year and I feel like this could be their year…although I do kinda have concerns about their pass rush, I don’t think it’ll be bad at all but I wonder how good it’ll be against the better OLs.

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 3w

Ravens too high is crazy they’re contenders every year they just beat themselves everytime 😂

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Anonymous #1 3w

They lost a lot and that’s not easy to come back from especially when their QB is very reliant on good play calling. Also the other teams in that division bulked up a lot…if JJ pans out to at least be decent there’s a good chance they fight the Packers for the division. I think the Lions could beat out the Bears tho but if we’re looking at things as teams playing to their best I don’t see the Lions beating out the other teams in their division.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I do like Will but he’s only one guy.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Nah he’s the whole line, he’s 5 men as himself

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Anonymous #5 3w

They improved all of their major weaknesses and KOC is a QB whisperer. On top of that the Lions got weaker. Lastly they’re a dark horse which means they’d need a lot to go right to get that far.

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Anonymous #5 3w

Beat themselves up yet almost always stay in games to potentially win, they’re too good to just put as a playoff team.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Fair enough, undefeated season and 50 year dynasty underway.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I think they’re just cursed bc the past 2 years they were easily within reach both games and just fumbled at the worst times

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Anonymous #5 3w

They still could’ve won last year if Andrews didn’t drop the ball. Also the year prior against the Chiefs they just did the dumbest crap ever by abandoning the run in a close game with an entire half of football to play and tried having a shootout with the best shootout team in the NFL.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Yeah w the Bills they wouldn’t have even been in that position if it wasn’t for Lamar’s turnovers. But he did clean up in the second half tho

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

There you go now you get it

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

QB whisperer? If that was the case then the Vikings would’ve made the playoffs in 2023. He couldn’t work his magic with Nick Mullens, Josh Dobbs, or Jaren Hall

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Anonymous #6 3w

Talk to me when you’re caught up with the NFL, it’s not 2023 anymore.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

If it was 2023 I wouldn’t be shitting on you for putting the niners in playoff teams given that they made the Super Bowl that year…….

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Anonymous #3 3w

He got the most out of career backups…KOC is responsible for getting Darnold paid and reviving his career.

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Anonymous #6 3w

You do realize that the NFC west isn’t that crazy of a division outside of the Rams and even they’re a ? Bc of Staffords health, the battle for the 2nd spot is very obtainable and while the 49ers aren’t SB contenders they are very much so still a playoff team if people remain healthy.

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Anonymous #6 3w

Also SB hangovers exist

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

The 49ers are not a playoff team if people remain healthy they just lost of a ton of their only good pieces so they could pay their overrated qb. Their wr1 is Aiyuk bro they’re not doing shthat

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

You really are fucking stupid man

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Back to the dungeon with you

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Anonymous #8 3w

While they are worst than the Bengals and Lions…debatably worst than the Panthers, they play in a pretty awful division and I think they have a shot of beating the Texans. Very interested to see how that plays out. Bengals are going to have to put up 40+ ppg again with that awful defense and they’re likely finishing 3rd in the North. I think they have the worst chances of sneaking in the wildcard.

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Anonymous #8 3w

The Lions aren’t awful but to me they are the worst team in their division, maybe still better than the Bears but I don’t have much faith in them being a top dog again. They lost a lot of key people and Goff is very reliant on good play calling to play at a high level. I also think they have the potentially worst QB in their division and QB play does hold back teams. Also an entire division can’t make the playoffs.

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Anonymous oversleepingprize 3w

Like you said they don’t have a good roster. They do however have some pieces but I don’t see them winning a lot of games but I also can’t see them being a complete dumpster fire of a team.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I can't see ward overcoming our roster enough to win 5 games. This team will look better but I don't think we win a single game more than last season.

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Anonymous #10 3w

The Lions only have a better roster than the Bears and that’s debatable. Lions also have the worst QB unless JJ just completely blows but I don’t think he will. Lions also lost a lot and didn’t fill in as many holes that were made. Lastly Goff is very reliant on good play calling and being that Johnson is still in the same division I’d imagine he has defensive ideas in mind to get Goff to under perform. I can at best see the Lions placing 3rd and being wildcard exits.

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Anonymous oversleepingprize 3w

I can see them at best getting 7 wins which I’d say is mediocre

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Ah. That's fair

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I also think they have a shot at beating out Houston, but you put them in the potential wild card category. The AFC wild card field is loaded, and if Texans win the division I just can’t see them beating out Denver, LA, Cincy, Pittsburgh, or even New England for a playoff spot.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

An entire division can make the playoffs we just gotta believe 🙏

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Anonymous #8 3w

I think Denver gets into the playoffs, I do think the race for the wildcard spots for the AFC will be very close. I don’t see the Bengals making the playoffs with that awful of a defense, also putting up 40+ppg isn’t sustainable long term.

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Anonymous #8 3w

For that to happen it would mean a ton of other teams would have to be absolute bottom feeders.

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What are you talking about 💀

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Bengals are more likely to make it *as a wild card team* than the Jaguars. You’re right that the offense will need to score a lot, but the number isn’t 40. Last year, they put up 27.8 ppg and went 9-8 with multiple one-point losses. They’re fully capable of putting up 28-30 ppg, that should get them in the playoffs.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I like the Jag’s ceiling with Liam Coen but let’s not act like the floor isn’t still low. If they can’t beat Houston for the division, they’re not beating out the rest of the AFC for a wild card spot.

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Anonymous #8 3w

Their defense arguably looks worse than last year and the Jags are competing with the Texans for 1 in their division. I don’t think both Jags and Texans will make it but I do think the Jags will probably beat out the Texans for 1 in their division which would mean they make the playoffs.

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I think they ball out this year now that they finally have a competent play caller again.

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I think the only way the Texans win the division is if Stroud just becomes insane at creating plays on his own. That OL is not good and they got rid of the one good player on it.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I agree that the Jags are more likely to make the playoffs than the Bengals, because they have a real shot at winning their division, and the Bengals don’t. But if the Jags don’t win their division, they’re not going to be a wild card team, because they’d have to beat other great AFC teams for a spot, one of which is the Bengals. You’re right that the defense is bad, horrible even, but 40 points per game is a ridiculous over exaggeration. The highest amount of points per game an NFL defense has

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Anonymous #8 3w

ever given up is 31.4. The Bengals aren’t going to break that record by 8 whole points lol.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

The Texans also have a top 5 defense, if they win it’ll be bc of that

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Anonymous #8 3w

If the Jags split games with the Texans and they’re fighting for a wildcard spot I think they could take it from the Bengals depending on if they beat the Bengals in week 2. I think it’ll be a shootout but I think the Jags could win being that they do have good edge rushers and have some pieces in the secondary and the Bengals have arguably the worst defense in the league. Along with this the Bengals have had issues getting hot early in the season.

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Anonymous #8 3w

Also ik 40ppg is an overly exaggerated number, I did that on purpose to make fun of how bad their defense is.

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Anonymous #8 3w

The Texans also have good offensive weapons and a good QB they just have an awful OL which will hold them back.

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I actually wanted the Jags to make a move for Higgins in the offseason before the draft.

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Anonymous #3 3w

Yeah he’s #6, dude said some dumb shit then blocked me.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Figures. Dude was insufferable

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Anonymous #3 3w

Fr, some people don’t deserve access to the internet.

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Anonymous #11 3w

Also, when I say I completely agree, I mean with my team's placement, not the entire picture, I dont know enough about this season to make a judgment on that

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Anonymous #11 3w

I see dark horses as teams that are good and aren’t really seen as favorites to be contenders however if most-all things were to go well (like injuries not being an issue and players developing) they’d have a chance at making the SB. For the Vikings I think they have a well constructed team and great play calling on both sides of the ball however how good JJ is next year can be the difference between them repeating their type of season like last year or them making a real run in the playoffs.

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Anonymous #11 3w

I see the Broncos being in a similar situation where if Nix takes a big leap in development the Broncos could really go far. I also think a little bit of luck needs to be involved too like getting the ball last in a close game or a team being without a key player or something like that.

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Anonymous #11 3w

That’s fair

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Okay yeah I get that and I appreciate that you explained it well too

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Anonymous #12 3w

Dark horses doesn’t mean they’re better than the contenders, ig I should’ve put them below the contenders. Stafford isn’t confirmed to be out for the season and this is based on him being healthy.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I'm fine with the list for the most part then. I think I'd only make a couple small changes

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Anonymous #12 3w

Word, like what?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I'd switch falcons and jags with bengals and lions tbh. Bengals are due for a bounce back year and hopefully won't get off to a slow start bc the starters actually got a little play time in the preseason Lions have a tough schedule I get it but they're still going to be really good

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Anonymous #12 3w

I don’t think the Bengals are going to be a playoff team with how bad their defense is yet again. Lions have a tough schedule and lost a lot of important people and didn’t fill enough holes for me to be fully confident in them especially since I’m not high on Goff and if this new OC isn’t as good as Johnson and McVay are then Goff isn’t gonna play that good and the Lions aren’t going to go very far. I think they miss the playoffs this year and move on from Goff in the offseason.

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Anonymous #12 3w

I also could see the Lions at best getting 3rd place in their division over the Bears and being wildcard exits but I think that’s likely to not happen this year.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I don't think it's a guarantee that the packers do better than the lions tbh that's why I'd have them on the same tier

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Anonymous #12 3w

That’s fair but I think they will do better, losing one coach is one thing but having to replace a lot of your coaching staff is another thing along with losing key players on the OL.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

That's true, I didn't really consider the OL. Ig we'll see. Doesn't mean the recipe will be bad every time if you change a few ingredients

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Anonymous #12 3w

No but they unfortunately play in a really tough division and I’d arguably say the best division in the NFL currently.

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Anonymous #12 3w

Also the other teams in their division improved lot more than the Lions did and they didn’t nearly lose as much as the Lions did.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

Prolly true, all they gotta do is beat out Green Bay OR Vikings bc it's not a guarantee that the new Vikings qb will be amazing yet

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Anonymous #12 3w

I think JJ will do well for his first year, I think the Lions have a better shot at beating out the Bears than they do anyone else in their division.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 3w

I think he will do well but there is bound to be a learning curve. I think bears will be a better team at the end of the year than their record implies, prolly get off to a slow start

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Anonymous #12 3w

There is going to be a bit of a learning curve, however, JJ was drafted high with little tape bc of how smart he is, athletic upside, and how he essentially seemed to remain calm in high stress scenarios when called upon to make plays. He also had a full year to sit and learn the offense. I fully expect him to have minimal errors as I also think the Vikings will be more run dominate at first to setup easier plays for JJ in the passing game. I think JJ very well could become a fringe top 15 QB by

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Anonymous #12 3w

The end of the season.

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