Anonymous #1 14h

The point is they own both but I’ve seen their fans say they would love for Lamar to go the bowl if Mahomes wasn’t in it and they can’t stand Josh

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Anonymous OP 14h

Because Ravens fans don’t demand rule changes every time Lamar shits the bed in the playoffs

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Anonymous OP 14h

And Lamar has LEGITIMATELY been the best QB in football at multiple times in his career (2019, and 2024.) Josh has never had a season where he was even the 2nd best QB in football

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Anonymous #1 14h

Josh has help too this upcoming season so Bills mafia really gonna demand some rule changes as an excuse😭

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Anonymous #1 9h

He’s been the second best QB in football for arguably the last 5 years. Burrow is too injured, unlike Lamar he actually shows up in the postseason while the rest of his team says don’t worry Josh has it, and Mahomes has either been the best QB in football or mid as fuck with no in between

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Anonymous #2 9h

-2018: Allen’s rookie year, pretty much every starting QB was better than him -2019: Allen still wasn’t elite yet, many QBs better then him -2020: Great Allen Year, but Rodgers, Mahomes, and Brady were better -2021: Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, Dak, Herbert, and arguably Mahomes were better than Allen -2022: Mahomes, Burrow, Hurts, and Herbert were better than Allen -2023: Allen down year: Dak, Lamar, Purdy were clearly better than Allen, and Mahomes went God mode in the playoffs

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Anonymous OP 9h

Help? Beane has made one good move in his entire tenure as GM (drafting Josh Allen). Other than that he’s been utterly incompetent and should’ve been gone along with McDermott the Kuechly merchant. The Joe Brady hire is awful and the only reason it’s not the worst is because the Steelers hired McCarthy and nobody wanted the Browns job so they got sloppy 83rds

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Anonymous #2 9h

-2024: Allen MVP year, but Lamar was still arguably better, not to mention monster years from Burrow, Jared Goff, and Sam Darnold -2025: pretty tame Allen year, Stafford, Maye, Dak, and Trevor Lawrence were better than him

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Anonymous #1 9h

Putting Hurts above Allen is ridiculous, Hurts is a mediocre passer surrounded with an excellent supporting cast

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Anonymous #2 9h

It’s funny that every year the preseason media says “the bills are a juggernaut, they are easily Super Bowl favorites.”, then when Josh loses, the excuse is “well, that team really wasn’t talented at all. Nobody can with that team.”

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Anonymous #2 9h

-2022 Hurts was 2nd in MVP voting and Hurts has actually outplayed Mahomes when it matters (unlike Allen, and I fucking hate the eagles)

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Anonymous #1 9h

I don’t think anyone worth taking seriously has said they were a juggernaut, the defense has never been great and the offense is pretty devoid of talent outside of Allen and Cook

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Anonymous #2 9h

Then why have they been preseason SB favorites or co favorites damn near every year this decade?

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Anonymous #1 8h

First of all, I remember that season but Hurts was clearly a QB on a winning team MVP candidate who I never took seriously as a candidate. Second of all, putting the losses to the Chiefs on Allen is insane. He’s had playoff stinkers but not against KC. The man has a 9:1 TD to INT ratio in the playoffs against KC, he can’t control Andy Reid beating McDermott like a redheaded stepchild schematically

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Anonymous #1 8h

Because people love Allen and preseason favorites are always about what’s good for Vegas and not necessarily who the best teams actually are

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Anonymous #2 8h

And I remember Josh Allen’s last 3 playoff losses. In his last 2 playoff games against Mahomes, he had the ball down 3 with plenty of time and the ability to score a game winning TD and leave Mahomes with essentially 0 time. Allen scored 0 points on those 2 potential game winning drives. And in his last playoff game, he had the ball in OT with a chance to lead his team to a walk off win in OT. And he tried to be a hero and forced the ball down the field for a pick, losing his team the game.

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Anonymous #1 8h

The Bills have never been the best team in the conference on paper or in actuality, the Chiefs, Ravens, and hilariously the fucking Bengals have been ran more competently and been better constructed for Allen’s entire career. As an organization the Bills would be nothing without him

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Anonymous #2 8h

Allen isn’t a playoff underperformer, but he also clearly isn’t an elite playoff QB. Never has been

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Anonymous #1 8h

I mean he’s got the best total TD to total turnover ratio in the history of the playoffs so I’m not sure about that

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Anonymous #2 8h

Overinflated stats against inferior opponents in the playoffs. Allen is 6-1 in the wildcard. He’s 2-6 in the later 2 rounds, and those only 2 wins are against Lamar.

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Anonymous #2 8h

Stat padding against the Skyler Thompson Dolphins, Phillip Rivers Colts, Mac Jones Pats, Mason Rudolph Steelers, and rookie year Bo Nix doesn’t make you elite

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Anonymous #1 8h

McDermott was supposed to be a defensive mastermind and somehow he always finds a way to give up 30+ in games that count. The 2024 Chiefs scored 30+ exactly once during their season and it was against the Bills, that offense sucked all year but as soon as it was time to humiliate Sean McDermott they locked in

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Anonymous #2 8h

And Josh still had a chance to win the game. He failed his team

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Anonymous #1 8h

He’s gotta hold that, but trying to put sole responsibility on him or any QB for wins and losses is fucking stupid

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