Anonymous #2 9w

Is it even? He’s very clearly worse than Lane, Mailata, Saquon, and Brown, and that’s just offense. I’d say he’s also very clearly worse than Baun and Carter. There are several others I’d personally consider better than Hurts, but these are just the absolutely undeniably better players.

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Anonymous #3 9w

The bald eagle is amazing don’t get me wrong but atp u just hate Jalen like that is a crazy take bro

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Anonymous OP 9w

How is this crazy? Are you going to tell me that Hurts is better than any of the guys I named?

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Anonymous OP 9w

I don’t even hate Jalen lmao, I’m neutral on him, but he is at absolute best the 5th best player just on offense. Lane is the best tackle in football, Mailata is a top 3 left tackle in football, Saquon is the best running back in football, and Brown is a top 3-4 receiver in football. It’s not a diss on Hurts to recognize the elite talent on his team.

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Anonymous #3 9w

I would argue Hurts is a better overall quarterback than the bald eagle is an inside linebacker. Not by much, but still better. I’d also make the same argument for Mailata. Sure he doesn’t throw as often, but when he does his percentages are consistently top 5 I mean just look at the op for example. He also has better intangibles than the other big 4 besides maybe mahomes. The guy excels under pressure and is easily top 5 clutch qbs. Not to mention his run game is second only to Lamar.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Allen I think is easily a better runner than Hurts. And these percentages are just such a nit picky way of looking at things that you just can’t draw conclusions from. Also, just going off this year, Baun was literally the best linebacker in football lmao. He is very clearly better, idk how this is even a debate.

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Anonymous #3 9w

People act like it’s crazy to put Hurts in the top 5 but the only thing they can point to is that he throws the ball less. But when you look at his actual throwing numbers he’s obviously one of the best. Plus when you have a dominant run game you don’t need to throw as much you just play the game to win. Being a great qb is about more than just throwing and we’ve seen that with Lamar who’s #2

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Anonymous OP 9w

And I think talking about intangibles for literally anyone not named Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes is silly lol. He has 1 ring on a super team, let’s calm down a bit.

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Anonymous #3 9w

He was but for me I can’t put him over Brown or Lane or Mailata even simply because it was only one season. That’s subjective though I’ll give you that. Also Hurts rushed for 100 more yards than Allen did last season.

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Anonymous OP 9w

That’s not the only thing we can point to lol. It’s that he has mediocre numbers despite having the avengers on his side. Best line, top 2 WR duo, and the best RB. Put Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson on that Eagles roster and they go 17-0, and that’s not close to an exaggeration. He is an above average starter on one of the most stacked rosters in history.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Raw rushing numbers aren’t the only thing that matter. Look at them play. Also, again, Hurts is playing on a FAR more talented offense.

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Anonymous #3 9w

Chiefs were a super team but that doesn’t take away from mahomes. At the end of the day aj brown needs someone to throw him the ball in order for him to be a top 3 receiver. And intangibles absolutely do matter. If a qb can’t lead a team and keep cool under pressure then he won’t find success. And if you hear how other eagles talk about hurts they all emphasize how much the team relies on him.

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Anonymous OP 9w

I never said Baun was above those guys lol, I just said he’s above Hurts.

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Anonymous OP 9w

They’re a “super team” but they went 1-3 without Jalen.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Chiefs were a super team? Oh yeah, his receiving core of Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore, Juju Smith-Schuster, MVS, and Mecole Hardman with Pacheco in the backfield is totally comparable to AJ Brown and Saquon Barkley

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Anonymous OP 9w

yeah because even a super team needs a decent QB, and Kenny Pickett sucks. I never said Hurts wasn’t a good-great starting QB, I’d put him top 10.

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Anonymous #3 9w

the 24 eagles are better obviously. This was one of the greatest teams of all time. But every play starts with the qb and the team didn’t play well when they didn’t have Jalen Hurts.

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Anonymous #3 9w

For me I think the fact that the eagles made the superbowl in 22 and the way Jalen played that year proves what I am saying. That was in no way a super team and he outplayed mahomes and arguably should’ve won. To me that proved more about how great of a qb he is than this last SB. “Everyone is better than Hurts until it’s time to be better than Hurts”.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Again, a super team still needs a good QB to function. Look at the 2019 Bucs vs the 2020 Bucs. Jalen runs the Eagles offense very well. I just think we are losing sight of the difference between piloting a stacked offense, and being the main reason the offense works. Guys like Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, and Burrow ARE their entire team’s offense. Hurts is piloting a defense that was built for him.

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Anonymous #3 9w

*offense

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Anonymous OP 9w

That team was just about as good as the 2024 Eagles lol. An even better O-Line with Kelce there, and the pass rush was historic, 3rd most sacks in NFL history.

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Anonymous #3 9w

I mean yeah every team builds their offense around their qb that’s why Mahomes, Lamar, and Allen “are their offenses. And also I don’t think Jalen is better than Lamar, Allen or Mahomes. I think he and Burrow are interchangeable but he’s definitely over Daniel’s so for me he’s maybe 4 but definitely 5 at least

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Anonymous OP 9w

Interchangeable with Burrow is WILD lmao. I mean man, I get you’re an Eagles fan, but be for real. He’s in the 8-10 range. I’m taking Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Daniels, Stafford, and Herbert definitively over Hurts.

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Anonymous #3 9w

Bro the eagles have always been a run heavy system but Jalen has shown that he can throw just as good as the top 4 but doesn’t because the system he’s in calls for more run plays. I mean just look at the nfc championship and the sb. Realistically what does stafford, Daniels and Herbert do better than Hurts like actually. Like actually break it down bc I don’t get u rn

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Anonymous #3 9w

They throw MORE but they don’t throw better. And they can’t run as well as Hurts nor manage a game nearly as well. Jayden Daniels crumbled in the Linc during the nfc championship

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Anonymous OP 9w

All 3 are far better in the pocket and get through their reads better than Hurts. All 3 have significantly more talented arms. Daniels I’d say is a far better rusher as well. And if you want to talk winning, Stafford literally had the Eagles beat, and then his center let Jalen Carter come off completely unblocked

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Anonymous #3 9w

And I love how when them others were hyping up Mahomes over the op it was valid but when I point out hurts got the 2nd best percentage now it’s a cherry picked stat. Like yall are shameless

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Anonymous OP 9w

A rookie QB with a team that won 4 games the year before got beat by the best team in a decade? Wow, crazy. And Hurts has the luxury of easy passing offense because his pockets are always fucking clean with those tackles, and if he ever gets blitzed, it means BOTH Brown and Smith are getting 1on1 matchups. It’s the most QB friendly offense possible.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Maybe because anyone with eyes can tell you that there is fucking levels to this shit? Like come on, don’t even try to pretend Hurts is in the same stratosphere as Mahomes.

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Anonymous OP 9w

And I literally never said anything about this stat with Mahomes before? I think this whole graphic is dumb lol

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Anonymous #3 9w

You still not giving a good reason as to why Hurts shouldn’t be top 5. Like does he have to move to the Browns for him to be able to get respect as a qb? Does being on a great team just invalidate everything he does as a qb? And I never said Hurts was on the level of Mahomes I literally said he’s 4-5. But seriously compare Hurts stats to Burrows or Daniel’s. And the commanders are a legit team Daniel’s aside they have weapons on both offense and defense they got to the nfc chp for a reason

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Anonymous OP 9w

I gave you reasons. Hurts needs to show that he’s a legitimate elevator and be more than just a good game manager+running. He can’t take over a game the way Stafford, Herbert, or Daniels can. Those 3 guys are capable of taking over a game completely and backpacking a team. Hurts is not. You cannot be above them if you aren’t capable of that

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Anonymous OP 9w

Hurts can perform well in perfect circumstances, but in a dire situation where you need your QB to be that next level of player, Hurts just is not that kind of guy the way Stafford or Herbert are.

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Anonymous #3 9w

So he didn’t take over the game vs the panthers, or the commanders, or the Steelers, or packers, or the chiefs? Have you even watched this guy play? The only reasons you’ve given are that his team is good so his success doesn’t mean anything but when you are on a team of superstars ofc you’re going to fit in rather than stand out. None of those other qbs u just mentioned would elevate the Eagles they’re one of if not the best team in football rn.

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Anonymous #3 9w

Dire situations are literally where he’s proven himself as a great qb he’s one of the most clutch QBs in the league

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, he didn’t take over those games. He game managed stacked rosters. It’s not his fault his team is good, but he’s playing on easy mode, and tape isnt even close to Burrow’s. I literally called him top 8 btw, that’s respect. I’m just not delusional about what kind of player he is.

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