Anonymous #3 4w

They dont know what that means

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Anonymous ticklemypickletombrady 4w

Yes

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Anonymous #3 4w

Overused joke

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Anonymous #6 4w

SB MVP goes to the winning team’s MVP and balling out one game doesn’t mean squat, Hurts played mediocre in the playoff games leading up to the SB.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

You should @ who you want to @. If you want the smoke act like you want the smoke

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Anonymous #5 4w

So what happened in 2023? What happened in the playoff games leading up to this last season’s SB?

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Anonymous #5 4w

Yeah that’s why I said Eagles fans moron, majority of your fanbase doesn’t know ball.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

You heard it here first yall. Apparently Super Bowl mvps don’t mean anything anymore nice. 👍

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Anonymous #6 4w

Can you read? I said doing good in ONE game doesn’t mean squat, if someone is consistently dominate that’s a different story.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Yeah ok name one eagles fans that doesn’t know ball besides the fight you had with 🛷. Also you don’t have to call everyone a moron or an idiot to get your point across btw 😅

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Anonymous latenflnews 4w

When was the last time the cowboys played an nfc championship? 🤔

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Anonymous #5 4w

Not every Eagles fan uses an icon on here and if you’re gonna say something really stupid I’m going to point it out.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

It’s not just “one good game” it’s a fkn superbowl. And he balled out in BOTH. Two elite level superbowl performances in three years is the definition of dominance. Mr orangutan get your shit together 😭

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Anonymous #5 4w

I think you made the orangutan mad

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Yeah you’re going to say that bc I’m being realistic about the Eagles, something most of you Eagles fans are incapable of.

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Anonymous #6 4w

Hurts was mediocre in 2023, Hurts was mediocre in the playoffs leading up to the most recent SB, that is not dominance playing at a high level every once in a while bc he’s surrounded by the Avengers and has good/great play calling.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Jarvis, show me the 2023 wildcard round against against the Buccaneers

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

I’m sorry dude you can’t be a mediocre qb and make it to the superbowl twice in three years with completely different oc’s and different rosters each time. And a mediocre qb doesn’t outplay the best qb of the generation twice on the biggest stage. Atp u just sound delusional lol

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Anonymous #6 4w

Hurts did NOT outplay Mahomes in 2023, I swear to God I have no clue where this narrative comes from. Mahomes on 1 leg was carving up Philly. And yes, a mediocre QB can make the superbowl 2 times when he has the #1 o-line, #1 RB, #2 receiving duo, and #1 defense. This is the most stacked team we’ve seen since the 90s Cowboys. Hurts is a Troy Aikman kinda guy. Good player, not great, and in the perfect situation.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Seeing you and orangutan go back and forth while having orangutan blocked is so funny cus I’m just imagining what kind of delusional ass paragraphs he’s spewing out. I mean it could literally be anything. I’m surprised he’s already gotten to the point of weirdly insulting you too lmao. Bros definitely going through it

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Anonymous #6 4w

I said he played mediocre not that he is mediocre. He’s a top 15 QB but not top 10, he’s too reliant on play calling and surrounding talent to play at a high level, he also avoids throwing over the middle of the field which isn’t something a top 10 QB does. Also it’s possible for a lesser QB to be on a great team and win a SB beating a far better QB, an older example of that is Eli Manning’s Giants beating Brady’s Patriots.

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Anonymous #7 4w

Hurts threw for 304 vs Mahomes 182, rushed for 70 vs Mahomes 44, and had 4 tds vs Mahomes 3. Hurts outplayed Mahomes.

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Anonymous #6 4w

I wonder who had the better OL, the better WRs, and the better RBs? I also wonder who was going up against a better defense?

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Anonymous #6 4w

I can’t stand arguing with people who just read off the box score and didn’t watch any of the game. Philly literally didn’t stop the Chiefs offense ONCE the entire 2nd half. Also, how many fumble 6s did Mahomes have?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

It’s funny how the op was about us only being able to bring up team stats, but now that I’m bringing up individual stats all you wanna talk about is the team. “Rules for thee not for me” headass

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Anonymous #6 4w

Are you fr telling us that it isn’t relevant to bring up wide receivers and pass protection when talking about passing yards because “ItS aN iNdIvIdUaL sTaT” D1 box score watching

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Anonymous #7 4w

“I can’t stand it when people bring up the stats and they prove my delusions wrong”

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Anonymous #6 4w

Just ignoring all context for the stats lol. Want me to make the case that Jameis Winston is a top 10 QB? He threw for 5k passing yards after all, and we don’t care about context here obviously

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Anonymous #7 4w

Jameis Winston never won a championship or a superbowl

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Anonymous #6 4w

Bringing up context isn’t bringing up team stats you moron. Also like someone already said box score stats are an awful argument to have as your main argument. You are literally proving my point that Eagles fans don’t know ball.

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Anonymous #6 4w

see what I did there? I left out context! Because obviously Jameis isn’t a top 10 QB. You understand my point now how just talking about Hurts’s individual stats is ignoring context, given that he has arguably the most talented supporting cast in NFL history around him.

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Anonymous #6 4w

Having stats alone as an argument without context is an awful argument and is easily beatable in an argument.

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Anonymous #7 4w

Jarvis show me aj brown’s injury status during the wildcard round against the buccaneers, and then show me the game from earlier that year where the eagles were actually healthy

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Damn admitting that you’re actually an eagles fan is crazy I know it must’ve been hard to come out

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Anonymous #5 4w

Seen it at least 200 times. Gave out an award for number 200 actually

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Anonymous succulent.testicles 4w

I proved you wrong a while ago and you blocked me until now. Wouldn’t be talking shit if your only counter argument is blocking someone.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

You never proved anything other than you being an insufferable idiot who’s better off blocked away and out of my sight lmao

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Nice job removing downvotes by the way lmao

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Gonna have to teach me how to do that

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Anonymous succulent.testicles 4w

the cope is unreal lol. Crazy explanation for the downvotes. People agree with him and not with you!

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Anonymous #7 4w

I would get your point we were talking about a regular season matchup but we’re talking about the Super Bowl against the reigning champs and the best team in the league and the best qb in the league. That’s the context that makes the stats matter. Jason Kelce didn’t make Jalen throw for 300 yds. Jalen had to do that. He had to make the plays.

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Anonymous succulent.testicles 4w

I can’t remove downvotes, are you stupid? If I’m such an insufferable idiot then why are people agreeing with me about Hurts not being a top 10 QB? Why are people agreeing with me that Eagles fans aren’t bright?

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Anonymous #6 4w

Do I really have to explain to you how having a God squad can elevate a player?

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Look at what I just posted lmao

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Downvotes get removed from your comment lol

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Anyways basic to the cage with you

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Anonymous #6 4w

Jalen did play well that game I won’t pretend he didn’t, but it wasn’t some all time game, and I stand by that he did not outplay Mahomes. After all, what is the job of the QB? To produce good team offense. Whose offense was better that game? Mahomes led a better offense, despite significantly less talent in his weapons and line, and did it against a better defense than Hurts had to go against.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

This logic is so flawed. In order for a qb to be great, his receivers need to catch the ball. In order for the receivers to be great, the qb needs to make the throws. It’s a team game of course a player is elevated by their squad that’s why they are great. Mahomes wouldn’t be Mahomes on the Jets or the cardinals. Aj brown wasn’t elite until he went to the eagles. Lynch wasn’t great till he went to the Seahawks. Edelman was great until Brady. You don’t penalize a player for having great teammates

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Anonymous #6 4w

No, but you recognize the context that Jalen’s supporting cast is a true outlier. He has by far the most help in the league, yet there are several QBs who do more than him with substantially less talent. And yes Brown was elite before Philly, tf?

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Anonymous #6 4w

AJ Brown was elite before the Eagles and he was a big reason for why Tannehill had a career resurgence. Edelman was on the Patriots when Brady was already in the league for years tf is your argument there? Lynch already had back to back 1k yard 6+ TD seasons before being injured 3 years in a row.

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Anonymous #6 4w

Also typically when a team is stacked with talent it makes it much harder to stop them. The 49ers were able to be stopped bc their OL sucks in pass pro and their offense revolved too much around Deebo getting open and making plays in WR screens etc. The Chiefs had to stop those gimmick plays and wrap up CMC to stop that offense. The Eagles have Saquon a top 2 RB, the best OL, a top 3 WR duo, and a top 10 TE, when you’re that loaded it’s hard to stop. You can’t key in on the run bc the passing

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Anonymous #6 4w

Game opens up, you can’t key in on the passing game bc then the running game opens up, you can’t get pressure home when the OL is a brick wall.

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Anonymous #7 4w

Brown was great, but the Eagles brought him up to a different level no question. But again, great teams don’t discount great players. No SB winning team has ever not been great. We didn’t penalize tyreek hill when Mahomes was throwing to him. This logic doesn’t make sense and it’s not fair to the hard work these players do to make good plays.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

that game truly was unwinnable for KC as long as Hurts played competently. Saquon demanded stacked boxes and the amazing pass protection meant the only way to get pressure was to blitz, both of which left Brown and Smith in man coverage, which is just impossible for any secondary. The only hope was to bet on Hurts to get flustered against the blitz like he used to, and props to him, he didn’t.

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Anonymous #7 4w

I’m just not gonna glaze Jalen because he was able to play well when he was under 0 pressure, and anytime he was pressured, it meant he had AJ Brown 1on1. He had the easiest job imaginable.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

My argument is that these players were all able to reach their greatness because they had great teammates. In football it’s impossible for a player to truly carry a team because of how much of a team sport it is. So penalizing a player because they have great teammates is counterintuitive. Great teammates make a great players that’s how it works.

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Anonymous #6 4w

The Eagles didn’t bring him up another level because he bettered his skills there. They brought him up a level bc he was finally in an offense that wasn’t reliant on him and Henry to make plays. A great WR is going to play even better when the QB has an elite OL and when there’s another talented WR opposite of him along with a great TE. It’s pretty simple that if a talented player goes to a loaded team that less teams can double team him all game.

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Anonymous #6 4w

We don’t penalize Tyreek Hill because we can watch the film and tell you that Hill was a monster regardless, which he proved in Miami. We’ve seen what Hurts looks like without his weapons, and it is NOT good.

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Anonymous #7 4w

The only time Hurts truly got pressured in his face he threw a duck that was intercepted but that only happened once.

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Anonymous #7 4w

Saquon got shut down in the superbowl and Hurts ran for 72 yards and a touchdown. When his weapons get shut down he makes it work that’s how they made it to the SB in the first place

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Anonymous #6 4w

I bring up his talent and the play calling bc he’s shown a clear dependence on it when guys are injured when play calling isn’t good, when the OL very rarely lets pressure through. There’s tons of starting level QBs that can play great until their situation sucks.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

You’re acting like eagles play calling is elite. You must not remember when they were calling screens on 3rd and long REGULARLY even in 2023. You don’t understand the pain we’ve had to endure with this team and their coaches

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

The amount of3rd and long qb draws too you have no idea do not bring up play calling I stg 😭

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Anonymous #6 4w

Saquon getting shutdown meant more people were keying in on Saquon which means less people were focusing on Hurts and also means his top receivers were in 1on1 situations and the Chiefs secondary while still good was not as good as it was the year prior.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

There’s a reason we’ve had new oc’s every year

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Anonymous #6 4w

Saquon got shut down because there were 8 guys in the box 😭😭. Saquon drew so much attention that KC literally couldn’t do anything but run man all game, which is NOT going to work against AJ Brown

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

He still had to rush for 72 yards only other QBs who could do that are Lamar and Allen and maybe Mahomes

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Anonymous #6 4w

2 of Hurt’s last 3 OC’s got HC jobs lmao. But the playcalling isn’t that good

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Anonymous #6 4w

Boohoo you had to deal with mediocre play calling in 2023 and 2021 (before Steichen took over). A top QB overcomes mediocre play-calling on offense, Herbert has done it, Burrow has done it, Lamar and Allen also have done it. There’s no excuse for Hurts to have played the way he did when he had far better talent around him than those QBs.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Hurts did do it tho that’s why he’s been in more SB’s than Lamar, Burrow, and Allen combined dh

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Anonymous #6 4w

Hurt’s OC literally just got hired as a HC lmao. He didn’t overcome shit

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Anonymous #6 4w

He didn’t tho bc he got embarrassed by the Bucs in 2023 and in the last couple regular season games. And the most recent year he rode the coattails of Barkley to a SB and then got the easiest game ever barely getting pressured and getting to toss up 1on1 balls to his receivers. Then you go back to the Steichen year where he had an offensive mastermind telling him what to do and designing an unstoppable offense.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

He made the plays. That’s his job. You can’t take that away from him. If Lamar, Allen, and Burrow made the plays maybe they’d have more too show for it. Well maybe not Burrow cs his team is ass. Also the chiefs were a great team and most people had them over the eagles. We beat their ass so bad that yall keep forgetting that.

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Anonymous #6 4w

Literally nobody was saying that an injured Chiefs team was going to win. The Eagles were the favorites and the Chiefs were underdogs. They had literal backups starting on their OL and arguably their best offensive lineman playing out of position. And yeah I will take that away from him bc every starting QB in the NFL outside of Deshaun Watson would’ve went nuclear that game. Having a clean pocket for 80-90% of the game and good 1on1 matchups with great receivers is a QB’s wet dream.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Okay I get it now. When Mahomes shits the bed it’s his team’s fault because they were injured, but when the Eagles were injured during the wildcard loss it’s Hurts fault. I think I see what’s going on here.

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Anonymous #6 4w

When did I say anything about excusing Mahomes play? I said the Eagles were the favorites to win and explained why.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Also like always you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous #6 4w

so ESPN glazes Mahomes and that’s some argument?

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Anonymous #6 4w

He still had Smitty and the best line in the league lmao

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Anonymous #6 4w

You do realize ESPN and major sports talk shows have been awful for damn near a decade right? The mass majority still were picking the Eagles.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Yes espn has awful takes. It’s telling though how many of them match the takes you have.

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Anonymous #6 4w

you’re just saying shit now lmao

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Anonymous #7 4w

#7 you and orangutan still haven’t disproven anything I’ve said. All you’ve done was create hypotheticals and say “nah uh”.

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Anonymous #6 4w

If you’re going to dismiss everything we said as a hypothetical then idk how to help you. Keep box score watching.

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Anonymous #7 4w

I will 40-22 is pretty to look at

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Anonymous #6 4w

let’s hear how Joe Flacco is better than Dan Marino now

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