Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

The ragebait doesnt get to me anymore but I find it sad how there are actually people out there that think some cherrypicked team stat is relevant to a qb

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

I usually explain nicely that wins aren’t a QB stat and how this graphic doesn’t tell much but at this point OP should know how pathetic their life is if their only joy comes from rage baiting on yikyak. I also agree that people lack critical thinking skills on how to properly rate a QB/player.

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

Wins ARE a QB stat. The best QBs win games and win championships. There has never been a great QB that has gone down in history who didn’t win games and championships. Herbert has only been in the playoffs once and got bounced first round. Also Herbert only beat 4 playoff teams in 2021, one being the Raiders who also got bounced first round and haven’t been back since, and the bengals who’ve missed the playoffs the last 3 years. He’s not a great Qb and definitely nowhere near the top 5.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Ah yes mr orangutan has come to bless us with another stellar take thank god

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Anonymous #5 4w

Yeah and put any of the other top 5 on the chargers and they’re doing better than one playoff appearance in the last 5 years.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Honestly, I don’t think so. I feel like u put hurts on there they do worse, any of the other 4 they do similar if not just slightly better than herbo is

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

It’s not ragebait it’s statistics. Great QBs get the job done. Your QB doesn’t and isn’t.

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Anonymous OP 4w

So the only QBs on here that have experienced the same level of incompetence from the front office and coaching staff are Burrow and Herbert and shocker they’re the ones with the worst records. The thing is Burrow at least had some relevant years of competency that allowed the Bengals to go to the SB. Herbert finally got a good HC last year but only had 1 reliable receiver and that’s not going to go well in the postseason.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You only put 3 seasons and not the entirety of their careers, but go off with your ragebait

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Anonymous OP 4w

Along with that the QBs with the most playoff success have been in the 2 best run teams in the league with few bumps in the road. This graphic leaves out context and wins/losses aren’t a QB stat.

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Anonymous #5 4w

I don’t think the guy who outplayed the best QB in our generation twice on the biggest stage would do worse than a guy who got bounced first round and threw for 58% his only playoff game. Jalen hurts is top 5-6 qb and has consistently stepped up when his number was called and the lights were bright. All Herbert has is hypotheticals. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion

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Anonymous OP 4w

Hurts only steps up when the situation is good, 2023 he didn’t step up at all down the stretch especially in the Bucs game. It literally took the Eagles assembling the avengers around Hurts for the Eagles to beat an injured Chiefs team.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I feel like from a logical perspective, say hurts is a 7/10 and herbo is also a 7/10. However, hurts has a 9 supporting cast and herbos is like a 3. And for fun let’s throw in mahomes as well: he’s a 9, cast is a 6 let’s say. So total scores: eagles = 16, chiefs = 15, chargers = 10. You cant hold the chargers low score against herbo since that’s not something in his control. And while u may be right that if the league ended today mahomes and hurts will go down in history and herbo won’t…

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Anonymous #5 4w

…that doesn’t mean the same thing as not including him in the conversation of good QBs. Tom Brady will always be remembered as greater than Aaron Rodgers but that doesn’t mean rodgers was a shitty qb, he can still be talked about as a fantastic qb even if he didn’t win as much

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Saying he only steps up when it’s good is just dead wrong and shows you don’t watch the game. He’s had a different OC every year and has still made the playoffs every year since he’s been a starter. The eagles wouldn’t have even made that wildcard in ‘23 if it weren’t for him. And he out threw, out ran, and outplayed Mahomes in both superbowls. It doesn’t matter how good your team is if your qb can’t throw the ball and get the job done. Hurts does. Another stellar take Mr orangutan hell yeah 👍

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Anonymous latenflnews 4w

We can do their careers. Herbert is 0-1 in the playoffs and threw for 58% his only playoff game. He’s never been up there with the other guys

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Anonymous OP 4w

Sounds to me like he didnt step up here

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

Buddy this was from the middle of the worst season of his career during a regular season game. We’re talking about stepping up under the big lights and during playoff games. Yes Herbert has a bad team, but in his one chance to prove himself in the playoffs he played like shit.

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Anonymous OP 4w

So you're judging his whole career off of one bad game? All I needed to know

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Anonymous OP 4w

Statistics say that sampling one game isn’t a good sample size for determining the whole story behind someone’s game. That would be like if we sampled just one game from mahomes game and that one game happened to be one of his shittier performances from his sb loses. While yes herbo only has the one playoff game I don’t think that is his fault as I have mentioned before, and yes his one performance was not very good. I don’t think it’s fair to base his whole career on the one game tho

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Anonymous tess_tess 4w

Great QBs get it done. Herbert is good, but not great.

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Anonymous OP 4w

I just don’t get this argument, you’re holding different QBs to different expectations then, you’re just blindly expecting Herbert to turn into prime Tom Brady just because his team is terrible

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Anonymous #5 4w

I think Joe Burrow is a great example of what I’m saying. He is a great quarterback.

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Anonymous #5 4w

Despite his team

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Anonymous OP 4w

But outside of the one Super Bowl run, burrow hasn’t done shit, he hasn’t been to the playoffs in a couple seasons either, so I don’t get how u can excuse burrow and not Herbert because both of them are great qbs who are on terrible teams. As for the Super Bowl run, it helps when you have an insane offense to outplay your terrible defense, and even then he is yet to do it since

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Anonymous #5 4w

Yeah but Burrow has BEEN to a Super Bowl. Only Lamar Jackson can get a pass but that’s because his insane talent sets him apart. I think you’re missing the point though. Herbert is a good qb. I’d even put him top 10. But he belongs in the “6-10” conversations not the “1-5”.

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

No im judging his career off of his career. Playoffs do happen to matter though.

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Anonymous OP 4w

When ranking individual players team success barely matters and not every QB gets blessed with a good/great situation.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

Which is exactly why I would still put him top 10. But he belongs in the 6-10 conversations not the 1-5 ones

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Anonymous OP 4w

Makes no sense being that Herbert is a top 5 QB in the league, Hurts doesn’t beat Herbert out in any QB category except maybe putting touch on passes.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

I’d put Daniel’s top 5 before Herbert. Commanders have been ass for a while too but he took them to the nfccg his first year.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You never put a player that high in rankings off of a rookie year and JD has similar issues to Hurts where they avoid throwing over the middle of the field. You can’t be a top QB and avoid throwing to a specific part of the field.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

you really think G Herbo is better that Daniels? This is not where I thought this argument was gonna turn but ard

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Anonymous OP 4w

Daniels over Herbert off of one season is so crazy that’s just recency bias

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Anonymous OP 4w

Yeah, the only major flaw in Herbert’s game is putting touch on his passes consistently. Other than that he does everything else at a high level.

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Anonymous #7 4w

I might compile this later after my classes

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Anonymous hustinjerbert 4w

Ok finally did it I made a new quote post

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