
i’m from upstate new york, and the way we usually think of it is: near nyc but not is downstate, albany area is eastern, rochester and buffalo are western, watertown and like potsdam, anything up near canada is truly the “upstate”, and then like syracuse and utica would actually be considered central. im more from the central area but its easier to just say upstate because ppl not from here categorize it as just city and then everything else lol