Anonymous #5 11w

we can tell

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Anonymous #7 11w

What do you mean? That’s the entire party’s platform?

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Anonymous #2 11w

Keep it up with the “tolerance”, that’s what made a lot of us switch parties

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Anonymous #8 11w

Who tf said I was tolerant OR liberal? The whole “tolerant left” bullshit is essentially a repeated way for maga warriors to try desperately to “own the libs” Donald Trump is a rambling idiot that does not deserve to hold office, and this latest bill will prove that as the rest of his term goes by.

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Anonymous #8 11w

The tolerant left are down the hall. You’re coming up on the “beats fascists with bricks” left without an invite. Welcome ❤️🧱

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Anonymous #1 11w

Which is the left that is going to make every sane young person vote red. Alienating people based on their race, religion, gender, and sexuality is generally not a recipe for success.

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Anonymous #1 11w

I’d vote him for a 3rd term if he could run again.

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Anonymous #9 11w

So you’re deranged and dangerous and need psychiatric observation, got it.

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Anonymous #9 11w

That’s all your party does. Which is why we’re fucking done with it 😊

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Anonymous #2 11w

lol I didn’t say you were liberal, I was just implying that your intolerance is what makes people go to the Republican Party because on the political spectrum it’s ultimately more tolerant the more right you go. It’s like you assuming I’m maga when I’m not, either. It’s just an observation that you’re clearly not able to tolerate people and that lack of tolerance takes people more often to the right side because at least there’s basic human decency where you’d think you’d find it last

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Anonymous #8 11w

“More tolerant” as you lose your bodily autonomy, healthcare, job safety, and liberty the further right— sorry, reich— you go. 🤣 You’re just pissed your intolerance isn’t tolerated.

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Anonymous #1 11w

We see everything totally differently. “Lose your bodily autonomy” meanwhile babies have never had the left defend theirs. I’m a woman, btw

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Anonymous #8 11w

As y’all do nothing for gun control, you give more funds to ICE, you don’t give a shit about food desserts or junk oases, you hate BIPOC, Disabled, and Queer kids and deny Trans kids the appropriate healthcare, and you actively deny them abortion care when they’re graped by their family members at 12. You can quit pretending you care.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Cool, so you hate yourself. You’ve made that clear by supporting fascism.

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Anonymous #1 11w

You are talking about the neocons and not Trump. The libs wanted massive funding to Ukraine and NATO and were endorsing Israel. Trumps big promise was America first and no new wars + working to end the current wars as soon as possible.

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Anonymous #7 11w

And that’s why he’s never pushed for an end to any wars and wants to escalate tensions? Why he’s supported Russia and isntreal? Why he’s given the domestic terrorist group ICE a MASSIVE increase in funding to harm minorities and move to silence any criticism of himself? Congrats, you brought this on everyone.

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Anonymous #8 11w

We shouldn’t have to tolerate hateful opinions and actions 👍. If that makes people move to the right, then so be it.

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Anonymous #10 11w

If they move that way, they’ve been hiding their racism and adoration of fascism before and let the propaganda get them hooked. We’ll fight them, too.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Yep. Like…sorry not going to be best buds with people cheering on taking healthcare away from millions, racially profiling and arresting people on the streets, etc.

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Anonymous #10 11w

The right have the opinion that what we do is for the betterment of society just the way the left think that what their doing is for the betterment. I could say the same thing for you, that’s it’s hateful to justify violence in the name of progress within “peaceful” protests or even civil conversation since the “ends justify the means”. I don’t think we’ll ever see eye to eye, but know that we have good intentions the same way you guys do

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Anonymous #10 11w

That’s also not to say I don’t have to tolerate you in order for you to see where I’m coming from at least. Don’t be surprised when your intolerance drives people even further away from the left like it did this past election

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Anonymous #8 11w

You have the right to have your own opinions. We don’t have to be friends with you or tolerate your opinions - no tolerating the intolerant. Side note- I don’t think most of us on the left encourage/support violence in protests (vast majority are peaceful). It’s unfortunate that media is filled with propaganda these days to make people believe that.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Intolerance of the intolerant*. We welcome diversity, just not those that aim to harm others. I don’t care if this pushes people to the right. If we tolerate harm and hate, it becomes more widespread.

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Anonymous #10 11w

I had 2 personal friends arrested from being dummy’s and biting officers🤦🏻‍♀️ it’s not really propaganda. Thats what really made me start to rethink the party I was in. If you just go to a peaceful protest with law enforcement around, you’re bound to see SOMEONE push the limits with biting or hitting when mind you it’s not legal to just simply touch someone without consent. It very often crosses the lines because people think they “know their rights” when having rights doesn’t mean you can’t

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Anonymous #8 11w

Still violate the law

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Anonymous #8 11w

Again, the vast majority of people are peaceful and it’s usually cops that instigate it. The vast majority of us don’t encourage/justify violence as you mentioned.

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Anonymous #10 11w

Cops wouldn’t be called there if people weren’t instigating and it was truly peaceful. When it gets really out of hand, it’s not just the police anymore and it’s unfortunate to see even swat teams have to be called out to scenes. If it was actually peaceful, this wouldn’t be happening to such a degree since 2020 when the wave against police happened. Before that, protests were actually peaceful and involved strikes rather than literally striking others

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Anonymous #8 11w

Cops are not only sent to protests when there’s violence. They’ll shoot at peaceful protestors and tear gas them. Once again, you were saying we justify violence. Most of us do not.

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Anonymous #10 11w

Again we just don’t see things the same at all. Police aren’t deployed to use their resources like that for small protests that aren’t causing any harm. It’s for mass protests that is causing active destruction. That’s why you won’t see a lot of smaller universities on the news getting tear gassed, but it’ll be bigger cities with crowds and crowds of extremely upset and pissed off liberals thinking this is the ends to justify the means since they run under the assumption the police will just

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Anonymous #8 11w

Hurt you regardless of what you do. But you have the autonomy to either engage of disengage in an unpeaceful protest, and unfortunately a lot of people take the bait and will end up getting my tear gassed just because they think they have a right to engage in something inherently unpeaceful

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Anonymous #8 11w

Again, you’re assuming that most protesters or people on the left support violence. Of course you’re going to have bad eggs in large groups of people. That doesn’t justify police using excessive force against peaceful protestors.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Any protest has a risk of someone being violent (and this is by no means one sided - Jan 6). That doesn’t mean we should just give up protesting overall.

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Anonymous #10 11w

If they were peaceful, yeah that’s not justified. But this just isn’t happening in peaceful protests. It’s just in mass protests with people thinking they have a shot in numbers against the police and that they do things like rip up counter protestors signs and spit on others. Those will at least get you in jail and that’s the type of stuff you’ll see at the protests with police trying to clear the area of people using tear gas

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Anonymous #8 11w

Yes this has happened to peaceful protestors. I’m sorry that you haven’t seen it for yourself. Yes, we should hold violent people accountable. But that does not mean we shouldn’t be allowed to protest, even in large numbers

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Anonymous #10 11w

I agree we shouldn’t give up protesting. It’s just the ones with police force like tear gas aren’t peaceful because people there are justifying violence due to Trumps policies they disagree with and thinking a few things in doing so. One is to stand up for immigrants as a citizen with privilege, another is that the ends will justify the means, and the last is thinking doing things like spitting on others and stealing their property won’t be considered unpeaceful and get police involved

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Anonymous #8 11w

Peaceful protesters do in fact get harmed by police at large protests. Just because some people are violent ≠ all protesters at a protest are violent. I still don’t understand how you think most of us are justifying violence. It’s unfortunate that you’ve fallen for that propaganda.

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Anonymous #10 11w

If someone chooses to engage in what is clearly a violent protest with tear gas being used, then they did that upon their own fruition. The point was on tolerance, and I don’t think you can expect the police to tolerate a crowd stirring up intolerance which you admittedly say the left couldn’t care less about to “hate”, which would be regarding Trumps policies at these protests. You can protest the policies, but if you’re in a protest where there’s violence then you need to leave immediately and

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Anonymous #8 11w

If you don’t then you’ll unfortunately have to be part of the group that was actively inflicting violence while you passively took part around it. At that point, it’s several crime scenes happening and the police do have a right to tell people to step back to investigate and if they don’t then for mass crowds the consequence is tear gas

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Anonymous #8 11w

It is also a crime to obstruct a crime-scene and not follow lawful orders, so just staying while the police are screaming at you to get back is clearly not being very peaceful even if you think it is

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Anonymous #8 11w

So, basically what you’re saying is that we can’t protest. As I’ve said, all protests have a chance of having some bad eggs. It could start out peaceful for most of the crowd, you never know when and if there will be violence. Once again, most of us do not justify or encourage violence. You are making that claim with 0 evidence.

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Anonymous #8 11w

It can also be hard to leave the protests when cops trap you in them 👍

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Anonymous #10 11w

I think you’re just going to the extreme with everything I say because you think conservatives are extreme or something. No one’s saying peaceful protests shouldn’t take place. They absolutely should. But you can’t be surprised when intolerance to the degree of violence causes the police to be intolerant to the now violent protest taking place. And not all protests are on mass, but its a pretty dumb idea to get involved in one when you see violence and police already there trying to ease the

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Anonymous #8 11w

Situation

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Anonymous #8 11w

I’m not going to the extreme. You’re saying not to protest when there’s some violence. So basically any large group of people could have bad actors, do we just not protest in cities then?

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Anonymous #10 11w

You’re welcome to protest in cities, you just need to be aware of your surroundings and not actively go towards police when you see them. And if you do see them, that’s when you leave and probably do find another protest because there’s already been a crime that’s taken place so you want to disinvolve yourself as much as possible. Even if you’re not personally attacking someone, that’s not to say someone or several people in the large crowd haven’t already and cops need to be able to

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Anonymous #8 11w

Once again, hold people that are violent accountable, not peaceful protesters. You’re still acting like most of us want violence. WE DON’T.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Investigate when that happens. Protests don’t really work great for huge ones. Typically cities will have several, but people will swarm to the largest one for more voices and power in numbers. But the power of the police, even if it’s small, will crush you guys if you interfere because they can’t have a bunch of people involved in a crime scene(s). It’s just a shitty consequence but it’s then doing their due diligence to properly conduct investigations at mass ones because there’s always

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Anonymous #8 11w

Violence there. If there wasn’t violence, which I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be having the conversation of “well do I just not go to city protests” if there’s not, then it’d be safer and smarter to go. But it’d be even smarter to check out ones in the city that aren’t the main big event

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Anonymous #10 11w

I’m not acting like y’all are all violent, but if you’re actively going towards a violent scene and obstructing police then that’s not very peaceful, either

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Anonymous #8 11w

I’ve been responding to your original claim: “it’s hateful to justify violence in the name of progress within our peaceful protests…” You’re acting as if I and most other people on the left encourage violence when that is not the case. I actually kinda find it funny at this point because while your side is stripping healthcare away, violating due process, etc. all you have to say for us is wahhhh they protested and a small few got violent.

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Anonymous #10 11w

I’m just telling you it’s silly to think the tear gas and stuff being used isn’t solely due to your guys’ intolerant attitude at protests with spitting at others and stealing counter protesters shit. The police wouldn’t be there if there wasn’t a need for them, and you can’t be surprised that your intolerance caused them to be there. And it’s also just a bad idea in general to stay around police when they show up. I also don’t see why you don’t also stand with the claim it’s hateful to justify

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Anonymous #8 11w

It’s bad to justify violence. It’s a good thing most of us don’t. That is what I’ve been trying to tell you.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Violence in the name of progress within peaceful protests. Getting your way through violence is authoritarian

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Anonymous #8 11w

Yeah being violent is bad and most of us on the left would agree…as I have been saying this whole entire time.

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Anonymous #10 11w

My original claim was actually that your intolerance is what causes people to switch parties, so that’s great you feel that way but I don’t get why you then had to push back so hard on unpeaceful protests being intolerant and therefore the police not being able to tolerate the unpeacefulness of it which does most often include insighting violence, whether that be spitting, scratching or biting. And you see much much much more of these instances than ones on the right with counter protests

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Anonymous #8 11w

Getting gassed out and shut down

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Anonymous #10 11w

By the way I do have to get on with the evening but I’ve appreciated the open honest dialogue

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Anonymous #8 11w

If our intolerance of injustices pushes people away, those people already were morally questionable. I pushed back on the protests because you made it seem like most of us on the left encourage violence when we don’t. Most protests are nonviolent. Yes we see more instances of violence in protests done by the left because, arguably, there are more protests done by people on the left.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Thanks for the chat

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Anonymous #10 11w

The rate of violence is higher, not just the percentage of people insighting violence. And our parties look at injustices vastly differently so you can’t just expect to be protesting things like free healthcare and for us to all be on board because we know free healthcare means way higher taxes and it would’ve just been better for us to chip in to our own private insurance, have more of these private insurance companies, and allow just about everyone to get their own insurance with different

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Anonymous #8 11w

rates depending on the place. We have logic behind our decision making, it’s not just us trying to fuck ourselves. We’re actually trying to do the opposite

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Anonymous #8 11w

Also I voted under the guise things like Medicaid won’t be taken away along with every Republican who saw trump make that statement. We aren’t trying to ban Medicaid, but we’re also not trying to have universal healthcare cause wait times to skyrocket due to our population being higher than places where it DOES work like Sweden

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Anonymous #8 11w

I get that. I guess it’s just a good lesson to not listen to Trump and to maybe do a deeper dive into their ideology before voting. Personally, I saw this coming (even Biden did and got booed for calling it out when he was in office)

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Anonymous #10 11w

Well we’re also still not getting rid of Medicaid, there’s cuts and a bunch of unqualified people will lose their coverage-including diseased people still getting benefits- but I’m personally someone with Medicaid and am given a form every year to see if I qualify and if I don’t then that must mean I’m making enough to try investing in a private insurance company. That’s always an option for people even though it’s more tricky to get into them since we’ve prioritized non-private insurance, but

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Anonymous #8 11w

The plan has been to get more companies providing different rates for anyone, and for us to not rely so heavily on government funding without also removing benefits from people who truly need it. This is the type of conversation republicans are having with one another

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Anonymous #8 11w

I swear we’re not all like “teehee whose lives can we go fuck up today!” We do truly believe investing and building our economy up like this will allow people to not have such terrible wait times in getting an appointment with a healthcare provider

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Anonymous #8 11w

Is it really what made yall republicans?

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Anonymous #7 11w

I think a lot of people are probably in the same boat as you rn but they're scared to admit that they were lied to and they regret their vote. There was merit to some of Trump's campaign promises so I get it.

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Anonymous #11 11w

Of course everyone has different ways they find themselves siding with the Republican Party more, that’s just one example a view that gets simpled down by the left in an attempt to make the right look like they’re trying to screw people over so more people will side with them. I personally found my way into the party due to my friends being dumbasses and ending up in jail, then questioning all of my beliefs because I saw there was some sort of cognitive dissonance between them

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Anonymous #11 11w

fighting against violence while further insighting more violence. I opened my mind up to the other side and saw that their views weren’t based on jeopardizing our citizens just out of hatred and ignorance, they’re just completely different views entirely. It’s a different way of thinking about the same issue that the left never really considered because they didn’t want to hear the other side out due to the assumption their opinions are based on hatred and bigotry

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Anonymous #2 10w

Trump and Harris voters are both accessories to mass rape and genocide

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