Anonymous #1 19w

Ok not sure why i brought up plants, i guess technically they have sex characteristics but my point still stands with animals

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Half correct. "Woman" is used to emphasize humanity and identity, whereas "female" emphasizes biology (sex). That's like a major reason why we use "man/woman" at all.

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Anonymous #3 19w

But that’s the thing, why are male and female even used to describe gender when they are sexes?

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Anonymous OP 19w

None of it's really objective and the lines definitely are blurred. It would be nice if everyone agreed that sex and gender are separate and that male/female is sex and man/woman is gender, but the reality is there are many different perspectives out there on that. I say let people call themselves whatever they see fit. I'm not gonna be the one to tell them they're something else when I can't see into their head.

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No, you're half correct because your definition is incomplete. We use "man and woman" to refer to adult humans rather than "male and female", and we use terms to differentiate that we are talking about humans because humans have social identities, not just sex.

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You are clearly not being entirely objective and unbiased.

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You're trying to make it look like you've proven your opinion logically indisputable when you've actually made so many leaps

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Your definition is literally just incomplete though. Man and woman are literally used to differentiate social identity aka gender.

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We don't use woman and female (as nouns) interchangeably because they have different contexts. For example "the woman won the award" vs "the female won the award" sound very different, because "woman" implies a social aspect in addition to biological.

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Your logic literally hinges on "my definition is right" because you read a 3 word dictionary definition. You clearly don't care to build a deeper understanding of the words you're using and how use of the words female/woman can frame your sentences differently.

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Anonymous #1 19w

Or if it’s a child, you’d say “the girl won the award”. Girl/boy are used to describe child males and females, the same way women/men are used to describe adult males and females. “If you feel like there’s not a word to describe gender without using sex then make up a new word”~ #5 I couldn’t have said it better myself

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Anonymous #4 19w

"The girl won the award" is different from "The female won the award" because "girl/woman" implies a social aspect and are inherently inseparable from it. You can separate the social aspect from "female" though. So deductively, woman is used as an emphasis on the social experience of a human female. If I gave you a pink notebook with flowers and fairies on it, you would call it a girl's notebook, not a female's notebook.

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Anonymous #1 19w

You’re enforcing 1950s stereotypes that were forced upon males and females. It’s 2026, boys can and do have pink notebooks with flowers for crying out loud. That’s absolute nonsense. My experience as a woman isn’t made up of flowers and pink. It’s made up of being xx and growing up to be an adult. And no experience of a woman is the same. We’re all different and to be categorizing shit like that STILL in this day and age is unprogressive

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Anonymous #4 19w

For fucks sake i was giving an example.

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Anonymous #4 19w

Can we all just say it together? “Abolish arbitrary sex stereotypes made up in the 19th-20th century from industrial consumerism!”

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Anonymous #4 19w

Acknowledging gender roles and the role they play in our society is not equivalent to forcing people to "do" gender. Woman is a term used to express the "woman" gender and the norms associated with it (pink, Barbies, nurturing, softness, etc.). Gender is a rigidly defined set of norms within a culture. Whether those norms need to be followed is an entirely different topic.

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I never said she wasnt a woman? "My" sexist stereotypes...I didnt make those stereotypes and i dont think people should have to follow them, you're calling them my stereotypes because you dont want to engage with understanding my argument. Your aunt is a gender non-conforming woman, and to be gender non-conforming you need a gender, a set of social norms to not conform to. Your aunt affirms her gender via doing what makes HER feel like a woman, not what society says she has to do to be a woman

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Well yes, society creates things that cater to women that aren't necessarily biologically based, so we have to designate it as "women's [blank]" and not "female's [blank]. Like women's perfume, women's hobbies, girly drinks, women's hats, women's glasses, women's phone cases, women's workshops, etc. What constitutes as a "woman's" thing is inconsistent across cultures, so "woman" is a flexible term whereas "female" is not.

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