Anonymous #1 1w

I have seen so much goddamn proof from this volume alone I have so much faith

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Anonymous OP 1w

right I’ve watched too many video essays I have zero doubt

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Anonymous #3 1w

EXACRLY

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Anonymous #4 1w

We've not had Mike's pov for MULTIPLE seasons. They have to be hiding it for a reason bc we get every other characters POV. Also, good thing the episode it's happening is the LAST OF THE SERIES! So you can be mad *and* done with it 😁

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Anonymous OP 1w

So I’m going to come back to this next Wednesday just to call you a dumbass cause that shit is not happening. They took 30 minutes for Will to come out to the group at the end of the second to last episode and didn’t setup any cliffhanger and the episode got review bombed, I doubt theyre gonna just change the narrative of the show to satisfy a small margin of the fan base

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Anonymous #4 1w

Alright bet see you on new years!

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also what the hell do you think mikes pov is?? Him gooning to will? He’s been into 11 since the start of the show.

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Anonymous #4 1w

That's why he and El have had zero chemistry the past two seasons and they'd been barely interacting and they haven't kissed... I think it's going to be a callback to the "avalanche" and show us Mike's avalanche buildup 🤷

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Anonymous #4 1w

If they didn't have something to hide, why hide it? Makes zero sense considering that was clearly an intentional directing choice since we've lacked his pov for nearly half a decade.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I was gonna type a whole paragraph but let’s just wait and see

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Anonymous #4 1w

Yes, let's. I've been studying film at uni and written multiple defenses on why byler makes the most narrative sense, if u can't see it then it's not for u and that's okay, but personally I do and can't see an ending where it's not confirmed 🫡

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Anonymous OP 1w

I don’t think theyre gonna are hiding anything tho and I think the lack of kissing between 11 and Mike has a lot more to do with Millie Bobby Brown being recently engaged irl (I think during filming). It’s an established relationship I don’t think gotta throw a kiss in here or there to reaffirm it, Lucas and max haven’t kissed, neither has hopper and Joyce. I think they really just show a kiss to establish the relationship and then the rest can kind of just be inferred from there. Done now.

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Anonymous #4 1w

My b for the poor grammar got the flu rn

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Anonymous #4 1w

She's an actress.... her husband knows it's part of the job, and if her character is in a relationship that's usually to be expected especially since it's been done before already. It's an established relationship that has been steadily deteriorating since s3, so yes showing explicit romantic affection is necessary for the audience. Max has been in a coma the whole season, Joyce and Hopper have been separated/not focused on as much (the duffers want to pull focus to the love triangles, is my+

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Anonymous #4 1w

+thought) and if we bring jancy into this they broke up so they didn't need to kiss. They've purposefully made every Mileven AND byler scene this season read as platonic so that it's uncertain what's going to happen in the finale, to build tension and hype for the last episode. There's no reason to do that if the ship that's been together since s2 is the one staying together.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I win you lose

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Anonymous #4 4d

What do u win no one got what they wanted that was a fuck ass ending for everyone and it left SO much unanswered and unaddressed

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Anonymous #4 4d

ur childish, and also neither mileven or byler were endgame.. nobody wins, nobody loses

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Anonymous OP 4d

Name one unaddressed thing, I was loved the finale

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Anonymous #1 4d

Mileven was 100% endgame. They had a heartfelt moment and then “sacrificed herself” to keep her loved ones safe

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Anonymous #4 4d

Painting/Will's feelings, Patty newby, literally ANYTHING in the Broadway play (that they declared canon this season), why Will wasn't affected at all by the mind Flayer/Vecna's death, suzie and Dustin are apparently broken up? duffers said they'd address the shed door unlocking in s1 ep1 but never did, is Dr Kay alive? What is lucas' and max's futures? (Outside of them being in love)

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Anonymous #4 4d

Mileven isn't even fucking endgame bro she's dead and Mike's coping with losing her and he couldn't say I love you back even when she was about to DIE 😭

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Anonymous #4 4d

And those were just the things off the top of my head come back in the morning I'll give you more

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Anonymous OP 4d

She’s alive dumbass if you believed byler was gonna happen there’s no way in hell you don’t believe 11 is alive

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Anonymous OP 4d

also to add, the fact that hopper wasn’t taken by the military. he literally killed so many of them, he would’ve gotten taken and killed for that.

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Anonymous #4 4d

There's literally zero evidence Mike did it all from random assumptions he made 😭 it's framed as "what do you believe" because it's intentionally vague and not supposed to have a concrete explanation let's be serious

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Anonymous #1 4d

A lot of them killed military how exactly do they have a trial for something like that especially with all the children there to see it

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Anonymous #1 4d

LITERALLY also the police were just ok w robin stealing those drugs? With all of them destroying a military base essentially? Bro

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Anonymous OP 4d

She used her powers to speak to him while people were seeing her in range of the power dampeners, she wouldn’t have been able to speak to Mike

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Anonymous OP 4d

RIGHT and also where is vicki? she was gone after the military found her and max

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Anonymous #1 4d

Probably freaked tf out, she was such a minor character I don’t think anyone is that heartbroken

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Anonymous #4 4d

Can u talk abt literally any other one of my points except for the one intentionally left up to interpretation

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Anonymous #4 4d

the fact you can’t 100% answer any of these questions proves that many things were left unanswered

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Anonymous OP 4d

Bruh how you reading into that, that’s such a minor detail

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Anonymous #4 4d

Into what be specific I gave a lot of examples

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Anonymous #1 4d

They don’t even need to be answered, like if you’re gonna be worried abt inconsequential shit like the turnbows insurance plan and bs like that you’ll never be satisfied

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Anonymous #4 4d

Wait hold on you haven't talked about ANY of the examples I gave after you asked me for them 😭 hello

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Anonymous #4 4d

you asked for examples and they were given …

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Anonymous OP 4d

Wills painting is seen on mikes wall while he’s typing out his stories at the end, he’s not gay so he doesn’t have feeling back, patty newby probably tried to move on from all the awful shit that happened they kinda wrote her into the story so to far along bc when died would’ve been the time to show her, the broadway play stuff was kind of shown when they were in Henry’s memories (joyces play and how he got the particles in him),

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Anonymous #4 4d

1) that's not addressing it at all, they ignored that completely after saying oh Mike knows about Will's feelings, wait psych no he doesn't!! So does he just never find out? Does Will hide this thing that was so vital to him for damn near a decade of his life? Mike not being gay doesn't mean it shouldn't have been addressed, as a byler fan I would've PREFERRED a rejection scene to it not being mentioned at all 2) Patty newby is such an integral part of Henry's story it should've been a guarantee

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Anonymous OP 4d

I guess the kids and will lived because their connection was either voluntary like will was doing (the antenna stuff) and the kids were able to spit out the particles cause they weren’t in them long enough, I hated that suzie didn’t show up at the graduation but Steve did say Dustin was pushing everyone away + suzies dad forbid them from dating

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Anonymous OP 4d

Max and Lucas living happily ever after was pretty self explanatory and the love opening was on wills house and I still have no clue

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Anonymous #4 4d

2+) that she would at least be MENTIONED, the play stuff is completely written off bc Henry's "I chose it. All this time I chose it" or whatever is a LIE because the stage play revolves around how Henry literally was fighting against the mind Flayer from the ages 8-14 when it finally took control over him, nothing else from the play besides the mind Flayer taking control is ever mentioned besides the Hawkins high thing, it's a disservice to Henry and to TFS by saying he chose it

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Anonymous #4 4d

Max and Lucas were said to be in love. Doing what? Do either of them go to college? Is lucas an athlete? What're their careers? Where do they live? We got NOTHING other than "you're in love" which we already knew

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Anonymous OP 4d

I think you’re really just upset abt the byler shit not happening and you won’t be satisfied with any answer i give or the show gives.

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Anonymous #4 4d

The voluntary connection wouldn't exist if there wasn't an involuntary connection forced onto him by vecna, that's why he can control vecna but the others can't because he and vecna are linked, and that's explicitly stated

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Anonymous #4 4d

I think you're refusing to read because you're just pissy im proving you wrong

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Anonymous #4 4d

the op has talked about so much other things other than byler and has given you so many other examples, yet you’re so obsessed about byler. are you okay?

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Anonymous OP 4d

BRO IT SAYS THEY SETTLE DOWN IN A TOWN AND THEIR LOVE GROWS WITH EACH DAY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW IF THEY GOT A DOG OR HAVE A MORGAGE TOO??

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Anonymous #4 4d

Like my biggest thing isn't even byler. It's the Broadway play. I'm a tech theatre major, it is my LIFE. It genuinely is so saddening for me to see such a brilliant piece of art get thrown away for some shitty ass "I chose it" (after establishing he was a victim?? Yeah, sorry victims you can never escape, you'll always be under their control and you will grow to be like them and die like them)

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Anonymous #4 4d

I want to know something of SUBSTANCE about THEM AS CHARACTERS OUTSIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP

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Anonymous #4 4d

Why the fuck shouldn't I want to know about characters I've gotten to know for a decade as INDIVIDUALS instead of girlfriends/boyfriends???

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Anonymous #1 4d

Literally like guys yes I'm mad about byler but I'm not mad it didn't HAPPEN im mad it was never even talked about but im MORE angry about the massive fucking plot holes and the waste of material they had 😭😭

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Anonymous OP 4d

Eh welp, we both clearly had two very different experiences. Guess you’re just going to have to stay unhappy or whatever because the show is done. There might be a spinoff but I don’t know anything abt it.

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