Anonymous #1 1w

Yeah that’s no shit 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous OP 1w

I loved the ending. I only wish that a little more of the stuff from the lore like brenners dad or how brenner knew to secure the wormhole was mentioned. But that’s lowkey greedy and what’s to say they don’t make another olay

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Anonymous #1 1w

I 10000% agree. I wish Suzie and Dustin would’ve reconnected during the ending too maybe at college or something

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Anonymous OP 1w

HOLY SHIT YES. When that bitch that was rude to Dustin as kids showed up I was hoping Suzie walked up and shut that shit DOWN.

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Anonymous #2 1w

What did you want to happen? Like genuinely what did you think was gonna happen?

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Anonymous OP 1w

they should've kept their word, people should have died, it should have been a crazy spiral ending that made you rethink everything. that's what they said it would be. i was hoping for like kali to be on the other side or something insane like billy and barb and them coming back somehow like SOMETHING INTERESTING AT LEAST

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Anonymous #2 6d

They’ve literally been through hell for like 5+ years like okay for them to finally find peace people just hate joy

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Anonymous #3 6d

its not about us hating joy, if anything i personally think its ridiculous that eleven, the person who was tortured the majority of her life in a lab, was the only one who died. the mindflayer fight was too easy and predictable. would avengers: infinity war & endgame have been the same if nobody got snapped? its like that imo. r they even alive? actual stakes. hell the whole kids plot could have been like that if we didnt see what was going on with them, it couldve been way more suspenseful

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Anonymous #4 6d

Right so it literally is because you hate joy. You didn’t WANT to see people who have gone through hell and back finally be free from the shackles of vecna so thats what makes it bad to you. The plot of infinity war and endgame entirely relies on people being snapped so like no? But would the plot have changed if tony stark didn’t die? No. There was no big plot twist in last seasons finale either, because by that point they’ve explained everything it just needs to be executed

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Anonymous #4 6d

I also think the mindflayer fight like was perfectly fine? The kids were never going to kill the mindflayer, that relied on vecna dying. They were just hurting it, weakening vecna, and then will and el did their one two

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Anonymous #3 6d

bold of you to be telling other people what they think! ofc i think all these characters deserve to live happy lives, theyre good people. did barb deserve a happy life? duh ofc she did😭 but if she never died, the threat would be way less threatening vecna was killing bitches left n right last season, & now hes washed..? regardless of opinion, if you couldnt recognize that The Good Guys had an insane amount of plot armor this season idk what to tell you lol

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Anonymous #4 6d

like will is connected to the hivemind, but hes not even in any sort of pain when joyce chops off henrys head? there are no demos or bats in the upside down or dimension x during this entire thing? it felt like many interesting obstacles that were introduced were just thrown away by the end bc the writers knew there wouldnt be a way for everyone to survive those obstacles that made sense

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Anonymous #4 6d

Vecna killed 4 people last season with a goal, he hit that goal. Vecna wasn’t trying to kill every single person he had a very clear goal. He took the 12 children and was feeding off of them. He only came into hawkins to finally take the children after they were all trying to help the children escaped. Vecna was focusing on the children, idk who else you expected him to try and kill. He did try and kill mike and them with the demogorgans but Will killed them instead

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Anonymous #4 6d

The only other time he came physically in contact with anyone other than the children was eleven at the end, and they’re a pretty fair match. He almost did kill eleven, but Will stopped him and eleven finished the job

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Anonymous #4 6d

Will is only connected to the hive mind when he’s in henrys mind, so yes when he was seeing henrys memories and experiencing that with henry he could feel it, but when they were in the mine flayer he didn’t feel it because he wasn’t in henrys mind. The demobats died at the end of season 4 so i assumed it just stayed that way? And in season 5 the demogorgans seemed to be controlled by henry and so idk what they were doing when he didn’t need them

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Anonymous #3 6d

but obviously he still has a goal this season, and all of these characters were directly interfering with it, which he knew about BEYOND just max el & will because of will's memories. so i think that, as the big scary deadly villain, yes, he would send his reinforcements to protect him using lethal force, while he is trying to execute his final plan. we saw demodogs in dimX in s4, & now there are just none

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Anonymous #3 6d

i understand what ur saying about will not feeling any pain because hes not in henrys mind anymore tho

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Anonymous #4 6d

Sure but i also think henry didn’t really gaf like because he knows their plan all he needed was to get the kids back to the house, that was the important part. I’m not really sure if henry even knew what they were all doing especially since they formed their plan after henry had seen wills memories. But when they had all entered dimX, henry was just trying to get the kids back to the house because if he could’ve done that in time, no one else in dimX would’ve mattered

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Anonymous #3 6d

thats where it falls apart & indicates its a writing flaw rather than a character choice imo, bc hes been so calculated up until this point. like why would he not gaf that there is a pretty significantly sized group of people actively trying to figure out how to stop him after they almost DID stop him in s4? how is he careless to the point he wouldnt even send a couple demos into the upside down (hell, even before the ritual started) to stall/scout for him in case anything were to happen?

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Anonymous #4 6d

Well thats where i think he didn’t know they were there. All of this happened relatively fast and he didn’t know they knew anything about dimX let alone how to get to him because when he saw Wills memories, he had no idea about dimX, and this like all happened in the same day within a couple of hours. And as for the upside down i mean they can’t do shit in the upside down, they’re useless there because he’s not there

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Anonymous #4 6d

In season 4 they could get to him because they had access to him and he knew that, but in dimX he was untouchable to his knowledge. When everyone was entering dimX, he was focused on finding the kids

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Anonymous #3 6d

yes obviously he did not know they were there, thats not what im saying at all. what i am saying is, we know he is smart. since dimension x is getting closer to earth, (which he is doing on purpose & thus is aware of) he would have considered the POSSIBILITY that something COULD happen. not know that it was happening, but be aware that something occurring in the real world could possibly interfere with his plan. additionally, he saw wills memories, so he had to know the radio tower existed. +

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Anonymous #4 6d

again, for a character who has shown us REPEATEDLY that he is extremely calculated, theres just no way steves plan would never cross vecnas mind as a possibility. even if you were to say he was just banking on "the Good Guys wont find out im up here :P" after holly literally fell from the sky, hes just not that stupid! and AGAIN, i am not saying he KNEW anyone saw holly, i am saying he would have known it was possible for someone to see holly

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Anonymous #4 6d

anyway my point is, henry was way less smart this season, and they had to dumb him down because he was too powerful. if he actually took the precautions he was fully capable of taking, our beloveds would have lost their insane plot armor, and the duffers just couldnt have that. glad ur happy with the ending, but they nerfed vecnas intelligence severely for it lol

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Anonymous #4 6d

Yeah i mean i understand but i still personally don’t think he would’ve thought about the mere possibility of someone reaching him in dimX because they didn’t even know it existed. I dont think he’d assume steves plan was a possibility because to his knowledge they did not know about dimX. Knowing the radio tower existed would have no correlation to his plan because he planned on crushing it and almost did until eleven. He wasn’t calculated enough last season to know about their plan either

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Anonymous #3 6d

except he was calculated enough last season to have the bats to protect him! that precaution only failed because eddie kept them occupied which bought time for nancy, steve, and robin to try to kill him. his house in the upside down was also filled with vines which would have strangled them if the hivemind wasnt weakened elsewhere. & if he truly was THAT confident that nobody could ever get to dimX then there was no reason for his base to be a physical mindflayer 😭

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Anonymous #4 6d

The vines werent something he set up thats just apart of the upside down and only knew robin and them were there after they let it know they were there. And yes the bats were also for protection, but vecna at that point through maxes memories also knew about this whole group of people, if he was as calculated as implied surely two guys playing music would not have been able to derail his whole plan. And i think him being in the mind flayer makes sense because yes he’s calculated so its a-

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Anonymous #4 6d

Layer of protection but i mean the mind flayer and him are also connected no? Theres nothing else in dimX so i dont really know where else his base could be

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Anonymous #3 6d

bro i never said he set up the vines just that he knew they would be there to protect him😭 & henry cant control the nature of his powers. if music does the trick, thats not his fault lmao. he goes on and on to el about how humans suck, and he literally used it to his advantage: he chose chrissy and patrick as targets, not only bc he saw them as easy to exploit, but also because he clocked that jason would be dumb and angry enough to unknowingly do part of his job for him

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Anonymous #3 6d

and the mind flayer has always been a big smokey/shadowy creature. the only other time theres been a solid physical form of it was when it was made specifically to fight in the physical sense, so why would he make a solid version again if he didnt think he was ever going to have to fight in dimX?

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Anonymous #4 6d

That makes sense but then i feel like then you’re answering your own question. The only precaution he took last season was the demobats they got distracted and allowed him to be a target. He then went to dimX, a place no one had access to but him, so it would make sense for him to take even less precautions, but he still took one being the physical mind flayer. I also don’t know if he had it for when he merged dimX with hawkins thats also a possibility

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Anonymous #3 6d

dawg his defenses were ass and he was washed this season because of bad writing lol if he brought out demos or bats (HE COULD HAVE im not saying control every one individually but if he just pre-placed them SOMEWHERE they would be thirsty for blood) the fight would have been way harder and our protags wouldnt have had the plot armor they did oh and they 100% only made the mind flayer physical again because the writers couldnt fathom a way for it to be killed otherwise lol

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Anonymous #4 6d

and even disregarding the bats in s4 the vines in his house still stalled long enough for him to kill max and open the last gate lmao im never gonna change your mind and youre never gonna change mine. finale just felt lazy to me with no stakes and there were also so many plotholes that didnt get addressed but im not even gonna get into it anymore. ive been a fan from the beginning and i am allowed to be disappointed lol i am muting this goodbye

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