Anonymous #1 14w

Will it become a person?

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Anonymous #2 14w

No

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Anonymous #1 14w

So it will die on its own inside the womb?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Just because something doesn’t “look” like a person doesn’t mean it’s not. The hands on that fetus will be the hands that it will have until it’s 90 years old. The eyes as well. That is a human. That is a HUMAN fetus. And humans have rights… it’s the the constitution!!

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Anonymous OP 14w

Well that's an elephant fetus, it will not grow up into a person.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Well that's an elephant fetus, it will not grow up into a person.

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Anonymous OP 14w

You speak with emotion and without reasoning as well as jumping the gun. Think before you speak.

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Anonymous #1 14w

See and this is why you think before you speak op…

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Anonymous #1 14w

Ok, so what does that have to do with “unaliving” humans?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Whether is elephant, unicorn, or a democrat it’s worthy of life. Although elephants don’t have a constitution that says that they have the right to “life liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, HUMANS DO!

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Anonymous #2 14w

Fetuses aren't human simple, they are just a clump of cells. Every mammal has a fetal stage and a human fetus developing before 5 weeks can't be considered a person.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Everyone is just a clump of cells.. literally.

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Anonymous OP 14w

You forgot about sentience my friend, bacteria are cells but they are not sentient, humans are cells but they are sentient. Fetuses are not sentient.

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Anonymous #1 14w

So a human fetus is not a human fetus? Then y is it called human fetus then?

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Anonymous OP 14w

Tell me, do you remember being in your mother's womb. Unless you are stewie griffin I do not think so.

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Anonymous #1 14w

So y is a fetus, a part of human development??? And y is a teenager and pre schooler part of human development also?

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Anonymous OP 14w

It's a human fetus because it was conceived by a human, pretty self explanatory there

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Anonymous OP 14w

Bruh I remember being a teen, teens and fetuses have different levels of sentience.

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Anonymous #3 14w

They ruined their own lives by breaking the law. The baby didn’t ruin their own life, their life is taken away from them. Which is against the constitution cuz the constitution gives u life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness! :)

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Anonymous #1 14w

Ohhh because sentience determines if u are human or not… right.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Your lack of empathy towards sentient people over fetuses deeply disturbs me. What if the person who is being deported a baby, do they just suffer a in El Salvador death camp because they committed a civil crime?

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yes, that is what makes inherently human over a piece of cabbage

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Anonymous #1 14w

So no, saying every fetus is a clump of cells takes context away. The fetus inside the womb of a female human being will one day become sentient and grow as a human, unless there is something that prevents it from doing so whether that be beyond the control of the mother or not. If it can grow and there is a chance for life, then I believe that stopping that chance is murder. Idc about anyone’s arbitrary beliefs about what being “alive” is, if there is a chance for life, then fetus is alive.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Uhm no, they seek asylum… which is a possibility at a LEGAL point of Entry in the USA. U should check it out. Legality doesn’t equate to lack of empathy.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Thank u! Someone that actually understands. They love mentioning the constitution but love to throw it out the window when it comes to abortions.

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Anonymous #4 14w

Oh here comes the insults

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Anonymous OP 14w

Honestly I think I'm done arguing, I'm just talking to a brick wall. I have one question though, I just don't get how a man who has 34 felonies against him is telling you what is legal or not. Don't bother responding

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Anonymous #1 14w

U see how he faced consequences? Y should illegals be exempt???

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Anonymous OP 14w

He's the president?? How is he facing the consequences???

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Anonymous OP 14w

What happened to “fuck your feelings”? I thought yall had thick skin?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Oh had to go to court, received a felony. Nothing in the rules for president disqualifies a felon from running.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Fuckin loser lmao

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Anonymous #3 14w

When you deport one Illegal immigrant, you’re usually improving the lives of the rest of the country. When you abort one baby, you’re short term improving the mental stability of a murderer (the mother) and destroying the life of the individual in her belly. You may also be hurting the individuals that may have cared for the baby to be born or cared for the baby when it will be born. There I fixed the issues with your comment.

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Anonymous #4 14w

So, you advocate for the death of “cuntservatives”?

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Anonymous #5 14w

Insane.

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Anonymous #6 14w

It’s ridiculous and selfish that someone wouldn’t see the potential for life as life itself.

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Anonymous #2 14w

counterpoint: i disagree

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Anonymous #2 14w

Thank u for still having humanity left. I didn’t think I’d have to be thanking someone for such a thing but thanks. Gives me a sigh of relief.

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Anonymous #6 14w

Your opinion doesn’t change the fact that it is selfish to take the potential life of a fetus for personal gain. 👍

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Anonymous OP 14w

No problem at all

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Anonymous #2 14w

i genuinely just fundamentally disagree with that assertion man. i understand the worldview i just don’t share it. mostly i think it’s fucked up to judge people that make this decision

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Anonymous #6 14w

Well, I think it’s fucked up to say that trump is a bad man to arrest and deport people who came illegally into the country and broke the law of unlawful entry to US.

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Anonymous #6 14w

I have not judged anyone. I’ve only called it as it is, murder.

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Anonymous #6 14w

People can do it all they want, I can’t control anybody. I will still always advocate for the lives of those who don’t have the voice to themselves.

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Anonymous OP 14w

OP i do feel like maybe you ought to extend some more empathy to those who are presently fully alive if you’re going to claim to care about those who are not yet conscious. but who am i to judge i suppose

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Anonymous #6 14w

I do, which is why i dónate to a program that takes in children that have debilitating medical issues that parents give up for adoption. I rest my case.

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Anonymous #6 14w

I’d say that deporting people is having empathy. I meeaan… we could imprison them for committing a crime, but that would be cruel.

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Anonymous #6 14w

Sending them back to their country of origin for not taking the right steps to come into the country legally and instead coming here illegally seems very empathetic to me.

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Anonymous #2 14w

we do imprison them quite frequently. and we deport many people who have not committed crimes. and now sometimes deport people to countries they have no relation to. and lately we revoke legal status and then deport people without warning

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Anonymous #6 14w

Unlawful entry is a crime. A federal crime.

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Anonymous #6 14w

Imprisoning as a holding cell to get them deported is different. “Not committed crimes” they came here illegally, that is a crime. The deporting people to countries they have no relation to is ridiculous and I don’t advocate for that. Revoking legal status if the legal status is done through the correct avenues is also deplorable.

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Anonymous OP 14w

humans have rights absolutely, which include the female carry said fetus. end of story

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Anonymous #7 14w

She did have rights. She had the right to sleep with who she wants and do what she wants. She had life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Did the child? Isn’t that against the constitution

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Anonymous #2 14w

you just said chance for life and alive are the same thing right after distinguishing the difference. pick a struggle please

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Anonymous #7 14w

Distinguishing the difference? Explain. You can’t just say stuff about what I said without giving context.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Not a single thing about what I said was contradictory and it was pretty clear so I would appreciate it if you were a little more honest with yourself and those around you.

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Anonymous OP 14w

I bet you cry every time someone gets their period cause that egg “had a chance for life”

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Anonymous OP 14w

crossing the border without prior authorization is actually only a civil offense, not a criminal one! hope this helps

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Anonymous #8 14w

Don’t matter. Still illegal.

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Anonymous #8 14w

That’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous #2 14w

exactly!

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Anonymous #8 14w

No, it’s ridiculous because there was no insemination. Ovulation happens so that pregnancy can happen. Not the other way around.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Saying something false in order to change a narrative and when given a chance to explain you ghost is intellectually dishonest. Blindly believe someone who does this is worse by far.

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Anonymous #4 14w

I’ll take that as a yes

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Anonymous #2 14w

holy shit calm down bro i’m going to😭🙏 you said if there’s a chance for life, the fetus is therefore alive. which just doesn’t make any sense, sorry. is it murder if a woman is on birth control and it prevents the egg from being fertilized? that’s preventing the “chance of life”. ergo are all forms of contraception murder? you can have a mature conversation without insulting someone, it makes your argument look weak.

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Anonymous #1 14w

so do you support the abortion of that fetus then?

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Anonymous OP 14w

You can’t be a felon and vote but you can be a felon and be the president?????do you not see an issue with that?????

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Anonymous rando5 14w

there are only three requirements to be president. it was deliberately designed that way by the founding fathers so politicians couldn’t use legal or moral barriers to suppress or block political opponents.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I understand that.i was just pointing out the flawed system that our country runs on.

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Anonymous rando5 14w

not necessarily flawed. imagine in the future there’s a presidential candidate with the best policies ever, promises to fix the country etc. etc. (not ever gonna happen but bear with me) but during the debates the opposing candidate brings forth evidence showing the good candidate stealing a candy bar when they were 9. do you think they should be disqualified from the race because of that?

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Anonymous #11 14w

Bless yo heart

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Anonymous OP 14w

If you’re equivocating fetuses to actual humans, then we should start counting birthdays and age starting at conception instead of birth. And a fetus should count as a person on the census. Any place or service that charges a rate per person, should charge double when it’s a pregnant woman. None of this seems reasonable or fair does it?

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Anonymous #13 14w

It does

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Anonymous #13 14w

Also your “birth” day refers to the day u were born. Not the fact of when u “became” human. That’s why a fetus can be 4 weeks, or 5 weeks. U 5 week old HUMAN is a human.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yes, so it wouldn’t be called a “birth”day, the name isn’t the problem. The age is

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Anonymous OP 14w

That is in very rare instances, not in most…

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Anonymous OP 14w

This is what would have to change

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Anonymous #13 14w

“Legal person” doesn’t equate to human. A human is a human. So that does nothing for me. Humans have human rights. And that includes the right to life.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Doesn’t matter if it does nothing to you, a human is a person, and this just says that under law, it is not a person.

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Anonymous #7 14w

It’s not insulting, I told you to be honest and called you out on making false and outlandish claims with nothing to back it up by saying it was intellectually dishonest. I’m sorry you got butthurt by the truth but me saying those things in no way is it insulting. I could also say you could have a mature conversation without saying outlandish things without context. Your whole personality is weak if this is the way you act, now that is an insult, learn the difference.

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Anonymous #7 14w

I wouldn’t say that preventing insemination is murder but I will say it is selfish for the short term gratification of the person doing it. As the egg hasn’t been fertilized yet, there is no baby growing. That’d be like saying I’m in the stand point of ovulation being murder. That’s ridiculous. Also, I never said anything about preventing. You’re trying to spin a narrative based on other conversations you’ve had. Though I think preventing is selfish, I don’t think it is murder.

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Anonymous #8 14w

Saying “exactly” to try and spin a narrative while also not replying to the actual reason I said ridiculous is intellectually dishonest.

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Anonymous #2 14w

so just out of curiosity what is your stance on sex? only to reproduce? are men allowed to do it selflessly because they’re not the ones carrying the egg? i just feel like calling a woman in birth control “selfish” in fact is quite ridiculous and sexist obviously.

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Anonymous #7 14w

I said preventing insemination… you have no dignity, to just lie out of your teeth to create a false narrative. I’m no longer going to talk to you as it seems you just want to keep lying and perpetuating a delusion you’ve made in your head.

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Anonymous #7 14w

I’d say it is sexist of you to assume I just meant preventing insemination in regards to women. As either you are projecting or you don’t believe it can be prevented through men. Have a good day.

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Anonymous #14 14w

So, you would have murdered an innocent life who didn’t choose to be born through rape because you would’ve been traumatized, completely disregarding the orphan program.

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Anonymous #2 14w

also the “orphan program” you speak of is a very flawed program and full of child abuse and neglect and yes while there are great stories and some people get lucky it is not so beneficial to point every pregnant woman who does not want to have a child towards it because then it is not pro life it is pro birth those children in the foster care system many times do not have a good life and have a very hard childhood so that is a completely different issue and program that needs reformation

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Anonymous #2 14w

i just asked you a question and frankly did not get an answer from you. that’s your choice not mine, not my fault you decided to get so defensive. have an even better day

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Anonymous #7 14w

No you insinuated

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Anonymous #2 14w

“so just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on sex?” maybe it didn’t across that way but i was just asking a question. your response tells me enough though

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Anonymous #2 14w

*come across, sorry lol

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Anonymous #7 13w

“I just feel like calling a woman in birth control “selfish” in fact is quite ridiculous and sexist obviously.” You can tell this was intentional because you put selfish in quotes to quote my word choice and you also brought back another word I used, ridiculous, to describe the former. You clearly understand this has been what I was talking about because you choose to ignore that side of what you said. Please stop trying to spin a narrative.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Clearly dumbasses are just gonna randomly believe you when you throw out the word sexist as a descriptor for what it seemed you believed to be my viewpoints when they weren’t. People believe the first thing they see as fact if it aligns with their worldview. This is common sense and using such against someone to throw slander and false accusations whether they be intentional or not is intellectually dishonest. You’ve done this multiple times.

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Anonymous #2 13w

I answered your questions in an indirect way and gave my full viewpoints on them. Just because I didn’t format exactly like you wanted, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Saying “your response tells me enough” without explaining is also intellectually dishonest as it puts me in the spotlight for doing something “wrong” when no such wrongdoing occurred.

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Anonymous #2 13w

i ain’t reading all that, have a good night bro

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Anonymous #7 13w

I’ll format it exactly like you want. Stance on sex: sexual gratification is in our nature but it is also selfish. The ultimate goal of sexual intercourse is to reproduce and pass on our genes so that our offspring may thrive and pass on our genes further. men allowed do it selflessly: there are contraceptives for men as well, not just women and when both parties partake in sexual gratification with no means to impregnate then that is selfish. Not once was women singled out in my comments.

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Anonymous #2 13w

Stop messaging me these ridiculous accusations and slander.

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Anonymous #7 13w

This is exactly the thing people say when they have read it all. You want to slander me but then pretend to ignore my response to your blatant disrespect. You have no dignity. Disgrace.

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Anonymous #2 13w

i don’t know who is messaging you but it’s not me. i just don’t care enough to read your response or message you. what’s the person messaging you saying?

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Anonymous #7 13w

These were messages to you. I am a thorough person. You choosing not to even acknowledge your actions is a disgrace. I have laid it out for you, do what you will with it. Though that may not be much as I see from your laziness “I ain’t reading all that.”

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Anonymous #2 13w

👍

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Anonymous #7 13w

Acting as though you don’t care but you did enough to lie and slander me is crazy. Have the day you deserve.

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Anonymous #2 13w

bro i genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about but anything outside of this post thread is not me. i’m not the kinda person to go out of my way and do that. if you want proof i’ll actually message you

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