Anonymous #4 1w

They won’t spare you.

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Anonymous #4 1w

you guys said this about trump being in the files and then that turned out to be true lmao

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Anonymous #8 1w

what are you conservative on? Genuinely asking

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Anonymous #8 1w

i dont think children should medically transition before 18 (after 18 idc), and i think ppl should be given opportunities based off their qualifications, not their race/sex/class (im not a fan of affirmative action or discrimination) but im also pro choice and a feminist

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Anonymous #8 1w

Trans kids deserve the appropriate care they need as determined by them and their care teams. DEI is quite literally focused on hiring by qualifications and not by other features, as nepotism and hiring discrimination against minorities is still rampant.

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Anonymous #5 1w

i respect ur opinion i just disagree. but we probably have more similarities than differences! being politically in the middle can make it hard to find a spot to fit

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Anonymous #8 1w

Okay, well I really don’t want to be rude but both of those positions are rooted on a fundamental misunderstanding of what’s entailed into either of those processes. I’d genuinely love to chat. I’m in my second year for my masters in Biomedical sciences (minor in biology) so I can answer any questions you have on the subject and as far as the DEI thing goes. The same thing. Just generally not what’s happening when you hear the term affirmative action

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Anonymous #7 1w

thanks for taking the time to hear me out and being kind! ill dm u to chat more

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Anonymous #9 1w

But that won’t work because *they’re* the exception. Just, everyone else should be stuck in that situation. /s

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Anonymous #8 1w

i mean obviously it’s your opinion, but i feel like if a 16 year old wanted to transition because they feel that’s what’s best for them then they should be allowed to do so. gender affirming care is very important for people who identify as trans. obviously if it were an 8 year old, for example, that would be a different case, but i think “anyone under 18” is excessive.

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Anonymous #11 1w

and by “different case” (for anyone reading my comment) I’m referring to lesser extent of brain development, and physical risks of putting that young a child through such an extensive surgery. i realize that may not read as how i intended it.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Not to be rude /gen but being against affirmative action and DEI is a pretty antifeminist position and I hope u can unpack that some. Affirmative action isn’t discrimination, it’s a counterweight against it.

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Anonymous #11 1w

A 16 year old is still a child mentally though. I think she said 18 because that’s the age when you’re an adult here, some other countries it’s 16. 18 makes sense to me, because what other cutoff age would you give and for what reasoning?

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Anonymous #9 1w

You clearly don’t have a good understanding of what it means for someone to be conservative these days. It’s easy to hate when you pick and choose what the other side means

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Anonymous #7 1w

I think you need to understand both sides and positions well to have a full understanding. The left misses a lot of nuance!!

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Anonymous #14 1w

Exactly. I live in the south where a lot of conservative women are. None of these posts sound like any conservative women ik

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Anonymous #4 1w

i’m confused bc conservatives want to roll back women’s rights. why as a woman would you support that?

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Anonymous OP 1w

she doesn’t believe that conservatives want to roll back women’s right. that’s not a real arguing point to her

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Anonymous #13 1w

I figured that’s why she chose 18. I’m using 16 just as a starting point. Truthfully, 16 and 18 year olds (although there are differences in maturity, life events) don’t have enough of a difference in brain matter to make her argument sound. Our brains aren’t done developing until we’re well into our 20s. By her logic, no one under 25ish should be allowed gender affirming care. It gets to a point where we’re just denying rights to deny rights.

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Anonymous #12 1w

i think everyone deserves equal opportunity for colleges, career advancements, etc without their race or gender being a factor whatsoever. someones qualifications and content of their character is more important than external characteristics i dont see how thats problematic

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Anonymous #11 1w

i'm not denying rights to just to deny rights. children's bodies and minds are not mature enough to do things like vote, join the military, drink alcohol- but transitioning is fine? i think we should just keep the bar at 18

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Anonymous #5 1w

about your comment on DEI, it actually lowers standards and i say this as a hispanic its not bad to notice this but its true

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Anonymous #8 1w

I wasn’t signaling you out. Just indicating that the logic behind your argument indicates that. And, as referred to in my previous comment, there’s no difference between a 16 or 17 year old and an 18 year old. Sure, maturity is gained over time, but brain development isn’t that rapid to make a difference in determining their own medical needs. If you’re okay with an 18 year old getting surgery, it’s very odd that a 17 year old draws the line

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Anonymous #11 1w

like i said, we already draw the line with voting and military service and drinking. i'm not saying anything revolutionary i'm just looking at rules we already have

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Anonymous #8 1w

Those really aren’t comparable. This is considered a medical need. Alcohol is a drug.

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Anonymous #11 1w

i just think puberty and development should be completed before introducing medical interventions. as an adult, i dont care if someone transitions. but i respect your opinion and i hope u can respect mine :) its ok if we dont see eye to eye

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Anonymous OP 1w

Which rights? Because last time I checked, nobody has the right to murder

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Anonymous #4 1w

Quick, do you support the Trump admin knowing Trump is implicated in the kid fucker files?

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Anonymous #11 1w

can't consent to sex but can cut they dick off? cant go into the military but they can cut they dick off? cant do anything but they can cut they dick off? nah, not my kid at least

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Anonymous #18 1w

yeah it just makes no sense

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Anonymous #18 1w

almost no doctors will perform gender reassignment surgery on someone under 18. top surgery is also rare. the only care someone under 18 can receive is puberty blockers or hormones. surgeries on trans kids just aren’t happening. i don’t know why that’s the thing that sticks with everyone

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Anonymous #8 1w

Yeah it makes no sense because its not fucking happening you dumbass. When you make up absurd scenarios to get mad at, thats the result.

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Anonymous #18 1w

Largely this just isn’t happening. I’m also confused why this became such a popular thing to repeat when it’s just generally not rooted in anything factual

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Anonymous #14 1w

Oh we know, “rules for thee but not for me” is a trademark of the republican party.

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Anonymous #4 1w

banning abortion also hurts women who have unviable or life-threatening pregnancies. it hurts women and children who are sexually assaulted and impregnated against their will. it harms every woman capable of getting pregnant by endangering their lives and sense of autonomy. not to mention unwanted children and foster children tend to suffer from horrible upbringings

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s the straw man argument. No one is talking about banning that. It’s the use of abortion as birth control by those with a lack of self control.

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Anonymous #18 1w

It’s a personal decision associated with their own body. Once again, that’s not comparable to anything you mentioned. Not sure where the confusion lies, and not sure why we keep trying to relate it to alcohol and fighting in a war.

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Anonymous #17 1w

i don’t see how it’s a straw man argument when it’s the truth. women are dying due to these laws and even miscarriages (of wanted pregnancies!) are being criminalized. most people aren’t getting abortions as a form of birth control. the statistics just aren’t there. please do some research on why most people actually get abortions. there’s no evidence to support the idea that women are getting abortions in droves just so they don’t have to use birth control

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Anonymous OP 1w

It’s a straw man argument because it represents less than 1% of all abortions performed.

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Anonymous #17 1w

from my own research i’ve found that most abortions are had by people who cannot financially or emotionally care for a child, and these people are often already mothers. it would be more irresponsible for them to bring a child into the world that they cannot afford. even still, this doesn’t change the fact that people ARE dying from restrictive abortion laws. even one preventable death is too many

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Anonymous #7 1w

i'm a bit confused. if it isn't happening and children aren't transitioning, what's wrong with me thinking kids should wait until 18? why is it a problem to wait if nothing is happening?

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Anonymous #8 1w

it’s alright to believe kids should wait for surgeries and such until they’re at least 18. the problem is that trans kids should have access to puberty blockers. they’re reversible and give them ample time to decide if going on hormones is right for them. plus, it helps avoid having to have surgery in the first place (ex. young transmascs on puberty blockers wouldn’t develop chest tissue that they may later need removed)

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Anonymous OP 1w

plus, hormones aren’t usually prescribed to under 18s without the approval of a mental health professional. teens are esp susceptible to suicidal thoughts and tendencies induced by intense dysphoria, so teens are the only group who really go through that process

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Anonymous OP 1w

the thing abt puberty blockers , specifically for MRF, their genitalia stays so small and underdeveloped that it makes bottom surgery later on more difficult because theres less tissue to work with. a well known case of this is jazz jennings

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Anonymous #8 1w

mtf**

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Anonymous #8 1w

that is an unfortunate side effect :( sadly trans medicine isn’t perfect, especially for trans women. Jazz however did get a different benefit from puberty blockers, which was her voice never dropping. it’s definitely a risk that should be discussed between the patient, their family, and their doctor. however treatments of all kinds can have negative side effects. i don’t think treatments should be banned for not being perfect. it can be absolutely life-saving care for others

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Anonymous OP 1w

never being able to experience an orgasm and dealing with lifelong medical complications is A VERY significant side effect. and children under 18 are simply less likely to fully comprehend all of the potential repercussions. i think the best of both worlds is socially transitioning and then medically transitioning after 18 if they choose to. at least when the child has gone through puberty, they have full function of their genitals, and a significant reduction in future complications.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Truthfully it’s not worth the debate. Someone who cares this deeply about what other people do with their bodies isn’t going to be receptive to what we’re trying to say. I appreciate your sentiment though in trying to support trans kids.

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Anonymous #11 1w

yeah very true :( i’m trans too and want to help protect them and advocate for them. their voices aren’t heard enough

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Anonymous #13 1w

What are the kind of conservative women you see?

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Me when I lie

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You. Nobody’s using abortion as birth control lmao

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52% what? Because 52% being by teens who get pregnant accidentally and are not financially or developmentally prepared for parenthood is not “using it for birth control,” which is a malicious myth spread by anti choice activists rather than a thing anyone actually does

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Talking about people “using abortion as birth control” and then accusing somebody else of bias and weasel words is crazy work ngl

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