
I agree with this postā¦. But I will say they get whats coming to them in prison as well. In case anyone doesnāt know rapists and especially pedophiles get beaten on the daily and sometimes murdered for their wrongdoings. Gangs and hardened criminals, for at least some part, agree on that one thing.
Not OP but I donāt think the government should be in control of who lives and who dies. Neither should a mob. This is just venting, what we actually want is justice. But justice deferred gets twisted up into malice against the perpetrator, so itās best we take the healthier routeāfixing the criminal justice system to actually put away the predators, as well as forming systems to prevent boys from growing up into rapists in the first place, plus early detection and monitoring of predators
real life history of black men being subject to bodily harm and cruelty due to false accusations of crimes vs exaggerated āsolutionā to topic OP probably knows close to nothing about but wants vigilante cookie ponies on yikyak for saying rapists deserve to be punished⦠please educate yourself
Way too woke. Saying male rapists should have their rape tool removed, which is obviously an exaggeration with no deeper meaning than men shouldnāt have access to what they canāt properly use, is by no means ātrying to bring backā a disgusting, unjust abuse against black men
I do not condone rape at all. Rapists are among the most despicable humans on Earth and are not worthy of respect. My point was, the 8th amendment of the U.S. constitution clearly lists cruel and unusual punishments being prohibited, therefore the reality OP mentioned would be unconstitutional and cannot happen. I am not arguing against your first 3 words at all.
she agreed if a woman were to rape a man then they should have their genitalia removed as well, equal crimes. Lying is not so equal, though still extremely horrible and the people that lie about rape should still face incredibly serious consequences. I still stand by the fact that rape is worse. Regret does not equal rape though and many women need to realize that before they ruin lives. This coming from someone who got a girl suspended for lying about rape.
False accusations occur more frequently for most other crimes before rape (think theft, criminal mischief, etc.) And oftentimes āfalse allegationsā involve some degree of misunderstanding. Someone might genuinely believe they did not commit the crime when they did. Ie. āshe was drunk but not āthat drunkā she wanted it that night & must by lying nowā or āI never knew it was rape to do x act, I didnāt have the intention of raping someoneā Alas, mistake of fact, and mistake of law, are not defenses
As someone whoās now interned in criminal defense for a summer, I can tell you that āfalse accusationsā are commonly mentioned to make excuses for oneās actions based on their intentions. I never meant to do x, how can I be guilty of x. But THATāS NOT A FALSE ACCUSATION. Each of us are responsible for obtaining CLEAR consent & knowing the law. So you have to imagine itās frustrating to hear false accusations CONSTANTLY brought up for one crime more than any other, when itās often an excuse
In the crime where someoneās credibility is often the most important aspect of their case, constantly talking about false accusations for THIS ONE CRIME, which is the HARDEST crime to prove, is not a coincidence. It is strategic. It protects rapists. It protects people who donāt know the law & donāt want to be responsible for their ignorance. āFalse accusationsā is a rhetorical spin on itself. Itās not āmisunderstandingā itās not ādisagreementā itās always malicious evil lying woman. Rhetoric.
A Ridiculously low percentage of reported rapes are proven to be unfounded⦠as in not significantly higher than any other falsely reported crime. And yes, people who falsely report are already punished legally. Not sure why people act like its a significant number when its not at all (significant statistically, its still wrong)
the amount of people who are suggesting mutilating women for accusing a man of a crime thatās already way underreported and frequently doesnāt result in the rapist getting so much as arrested actually scares me, i think u guys just wanna mutilate women bc why would lying be punished by fgm
Mature men would be more infuriated that other men are disgusting enough to take advantage and/or force themselves onto a woman. Imagine it was your mother, imagine it was your girlfriend or wife. You should be angry that this issue is so prevalent and goes unpunished. āFalseā accusations happen less than 1% of the time. I can tell you about 99% of the guys who claim it was a false accusation, just misunderstood what they did. Which sucks for them but they still committed the crime
What does this have to do with rapists? Rapists can be any race and saying they should be punished to fit the crime isnāt racist lmao. People love to make everything about race when it just isnāt, no one was thinking about race when this post was made. In fact when I think about a rapist I picture a white man
This is less than 1% of rape cases dawg. Most of these āfalse accusationsā you speak of were misunderstandings. For example a guy could have done something and not realize it was a crime could be like āI didnāt know she was too drunkā or āi didnāt know i had to ask consent for this.ā But itās still a crime and counts as rape but there are different degrees of rape. It sucks that these guys didnāt know but they still traumatized someone for life even if they didnāt have any malicious intent
Less than 1% of cases are false accusations, most of the time when men say they didnāt do it, it was because they didnāt know what they did was rape. Like a man who says āI didnāt know I needed consent for xā or āi didnāt know she was too drunk to consentā or āI thought sheād like xā but it was still rape. There are different degrees of rape but the woman is traumatized by it 100% of the time
youāre right that itās uncommon but still common enough (not false accusations specifically, all crime convictions have a degree of error) and even one mutilated innocent is too many. thereās a wrongly convicted rate of 4ish percent for the death penalty, thatās crazy high to still be killing people, we canāt be mutilating people too
Real shit a lot of the death penalty victims were because they were not white, thatās just my take though. I feel like this punishment would be plausible if people werenāt biased. I believe OP was using this to exaggerate and bring attention to how rapists are severely under punished
i started typing that before pt 2 where u mentioned undeniable evidence and i get what youāre saying but imo thereās still a potential for error when giving judges/jurors that kind of discretion since thereās a high burden of proof for capital murder and theyāre still messing it up. they donāt deserve their penises but we also canāt be giving a judge and jury the power to decide who gets mutilated, i think we gotta just hope someone will take care of it in prison
agree bias is crazy, in an ideal world i get what youāre saying. yeah op said theyāre just venting and i donāt wanna turn their vent into a whole debate when thatās not what they meant to begin with but i also get the death penalty stuff out there cause i think people have a lot of misconceptions about how accurate our justice system is
Right, people say this like the reality is most of the time people donāt believe victims in the first place and the only once who ends up punished is the person reporting. Statistically false accusations almost never happen but men will bring it up as if itās the default rather than admitting to themselves how many other men are rapists. It pmo so bad.
yeah. iāve had a man tell me that he was on a grand jury and convinced the rest of them that she was faking being a victim. i asked him how he knew, and he said he could tell just by looking at her and how she carries herself. saying stuff like āthey always fake it. her evidence didnāt make senseā i canāt stand MEN. my heart is racing just typing this
Man the same typa shit happened to me. I didnāt even make to a grand jury. And I vividly remember seeing a woman who had clearly been drugged to near unconsciousness in a restaurant in the middle of a busy city, who was basically dragged in by two men who described doing disgusting things to her. I went to the bathroom to call the police and report an emergency. They didnāt come for 45 minutes, by which time the three of them were gone, and then the cops called to scold me for reporting at all
Did you even read my comment? Yes, it IS rape. but youād be surprised how many men show up to attorneyās offices wanting counsel and their defense is that, āwell yeah she drank but I could tell she still wanted itā only to realize thatās not a defense, and then the story becomes āoh well actually i was too drunk to even know what she wantedā which is odd bc a minute ago you said you knew exactly what she wanted & was making false claims but NOW you were hammered.
ALSO let it be known, voluntary intoxication is not a defense to the crime of rape unless it defeats the mens rea for the crime. if the man still knew the woman could not or did not consent it doesnāt matter if he himself also had something to drink. common misunderstanding of the law.
rape is the most selfish crime of all time. there is NEVER any excuse to rape someone because you do not need to have forceful sex. it is a purely selfish evil, other crimes like murder and drug dealers can have reasons like self defense and addiction. rape is violence for the sake of violence.
or they immediately assume itās a false accusation because god forbid a man gets consequences even though 90+% of rapes are committed by men. they ALWAYS talk about āfalse accusationsā like any woman would want to go through that for a shrivel of justice. itās an excuse because they truly do not care about women and rape is not a big deal to them = Silent confession
i think itās more likely that the guilty will accuse the victim of a false accusation, all to excuse the guilty from any wrongdoing and to prey on the doubts of a population already inclined not to believe victims. people are generally taught that menās lives are more important than womenās lives, which is why they can live with a woman being brutally raped but they canāt live with a man going to jail for his own actions. the āfalse accusationā narrative would exist just for this.
im being so deadass im not being hateful or victim blaming: most male SA victims ive met refuse to take it seriously. they joke about it, say they āgot some without tryingā and laugh it off. until some chick starts to talk about how all men make her uncomfortable, sometimes due to her own experience. then they get all boo hooey and start to throw it right back at her and belittle her experience. ive seen this like 4 or 5 times, across like a decade. not saying they dont deserve a voice, but bro