Anonymous #2 5d

I mean, Christianity literally talks about protecting immigrants, sex workers and loving thy neighbor, so we’re hand picking the conservative values they want to embrace in the bible, not actually practicing Christianity.

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Anonymous #3 5d

It also talks about how to beat and kill slaves and disobedient children as well as how to “buy” young girls as wives after assaulting them. That’s pretty on point for kkkuntservatives.

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Anonymous #5 5d

Cope harder

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Anonymous #3 5d

“Truly, I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you.” Matthew 21:31

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Anonymous #7 5d

I think you just need ears dude. I mean do you process all your political opinions through memes, or just the dumb ones?

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Anonymous #7 5d

“stop criticizing my favorite pdf!”

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Anonymous #3 5d

Protecting people from extreme persecution (such as stoning) does not mean condoning the act

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Anonymous #6 5d

There’s also plenty of verses in the bible and teachings of the church about abusing God’s grace

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Anonymous #4 5d

Where does it say that besides a super Old Testament book. Also, the whole thing about the bible is Jesus (New Testament) coming to fulfill the Old Testament. Try to find ONE THING about Jesus that can be legitimately considered evil.

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Anonymous #8 5d

“Where dos it say something immoral besides this one portion where God is directly commanding something immoral!”

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Anonymous OP 5d

Hey read my comment again

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Anonymous #8 5d

Why are you dismissing half of the entire bible lmao. If God said it’s okay to own kid slaves in the OT why is that suddenly not important?

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Anonymous OP 5d

lol you say half the bible but you are referencing a few verses from one book

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Anonymous #8 5d

There are about 46 books of the bible, and you are referencing at most 15 verses from Leviticus and maybe some others from the Pentateuch. That means you are referencing a fraction of 2% of the bible

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Anonymous #8 5d

Oh okay, so just because it’s a few verses that suddenly makes it irrelevant that God says it?

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Anonymous OP 5d

There’s no way of proving that God said that. Also, back then, those heinous practices were the norm, and being that the book you referenced is a rule book, it had to hit all of the practices of the day.

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Anonymous #8 5d

For the record I am not MAGA but very much conservative

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Anonymous #8 5d

New Testament never said anything about abolishing slavery. Never abolished the OT either. Matthew 7:13, 8:12, 10:14-15/34 highlight some of his cruelty. Oh, he lied often (like saying he’d return before all of his disciples died), supported disobedient children being put to death, called foreigners dogs and refused to work miracles for them without begging and coercion, expects families to turn on each other and die. If he’s 100% god, he’s responsible for all of those atrocities as well.

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Anonymous #8 5d

So you now question the text of the bible? What’s your proof God said anything written in the bible then?

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Anonymous #8 5d

Can’t forget the blocked forgiveness, endorsement for slavery, promotion of self-harm, and even said to be complacent and not resist an evil person.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Wait hold on. Please elaborate on promotion of self harm

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Anonymous #8 5d

The whole “If your eye sins, pluck it out. Chop off the hand.” in Matthew 5:29-30.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Ok in reference to one of the verses you said about Matthew 7:13 about the concept of the narrow gate, it’s not cruel that God has a standard for people to enter heaven. You also bring up ONE instance that you misconstrued for a lie

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Anonymous #8 5d

Would love an answer

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Anonymous #4 5d

I want to DM you about these points you bring up because I am genuinely confused as to what you are talking about

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Anonymous #8 5d

Whatever lies help you sleep at night. 🥱

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Anonymous OP 5d

No. God did not write the bible.

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Anonymous #8 5d

So none of the bible is true?

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Anonymous #8 5d

So then it can’t be trusted, got it.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Walked himself into a corner lol

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Anonymous OP 5d

No. The bible was divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit. That doesn’t mean that every single verse was written by God himself. Even if we did accept that EVERYTHING in the bible is God’s exact words, then your whole claim about Leviticus still doesn’t mean anything. Just because you write rules about something does not mean you are condoning the actions

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Anonymous #4 5d

Ever heard of symbolism

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Anonymous #8 5d

1. Prove God don’t inspire those verses about owning child slaves. 2. Does God command things for humans to follow that HE thinks are immoral?

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Anonymous OP 5d

didn’t**

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Anonymous OP 5d

They always do!

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Anonymous OP 5d

1. Ok I’ll take the stance of God inspiring the verses of the rules to be established. Yes, there might have been some rules made about how to handle a common practice back then. Doesn’t mean God said “Own slaves! It’s right!” 2. Think about any sort of rules written. As Americans, we say that you can drink when you are of age. Does that mean the individuals who came up with that law WANT you to drink. No

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Anonymous #8 5d

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters…” Ephesians 6:5 Where’s the condemnation of slavery? Oh, right.

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Anonymous #8 5d

If you find a verse that says anything close to “It is right to own slaves” I will concede

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Anonymous #4 5d

How so)

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Anonymous #8 5d

No no, that’s not what I said. I told you to prove he didn’t. You tried to say there’s no proof he even said that. Now you’re backpedaling that if he did say that, it’s okay. So prove to me he didn’t. You can’t arbitrarily decide what is and isn’t true just because you don’t like it.

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Anonymous #8 5d

2. None of this is a yes or no in any shape or form. Does God command things for humans to do, that he deems immoral, yes or nov

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Anonymous #8 5d

Ex21-2-11, Lev25:44-46, take slaves from conquered peoples, sell yourself into slavery for debt. Gen12:16;24:35; Isa14:1-2, it’s a blessing to have slaves. Ex21:21, slave’s are property. Ex21:21-21, you can beat slaves, 8-11 has them taken as concubines, Lev19:20-22 says they can be raped without consequence.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Ok this is a tough one. The current understanding of this verse is that slaves are supposed to mean people that are lower than a lord on some sort of scale. Also, care to read the verse right before it for context

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Anonymous #4 5d

In exodus 21:4 God explicitly tells people to own kids as property from birth if they’re born to indentured slaves. That is by definition chattel slavery lol, the same slavery that we saw in the US

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Anonymous #8 5d

No it’s not. Slave meant worker/servant. Dont lie

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Anonymous #8 5d

“But context!!” as it makes it worse and only further proves the point. You actually read the shitpit of a book? Genocide is never okay. Slavery is never okay. Racism and ableism are never okay. Creating evil and pretending you’re not responsible is not okay.

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Anonymous OP 5d

He does not command people to do things that are immoral, no

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Anonymous #8 5d

We’ve quite literally just proven it to you.

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Anonymous #8 5d

So when God said to own children as property, from birth, which means the children are by definition chattel slaves, that is good to you?

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Anonymous #8 5d

“Hey, go kill your son as a blood sacrifice to me. LOL JK! But here, beat my son who is also me and kill him as he will be a sacrifice to me from me.”

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Anonymous #8 5d

You didn’t do it. Prove he didn’t inspire that verse. You tried to stand on that so stand on it. Go ahead.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Hey man you don’t know a single thing about me. Don’t accuse me of being responsible for anything. I have remained respectful throughout this entire interaction.

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Anonymous #4 5d

No you did not.

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Anonymous #8 5d

I’m pointing out that your mythology is inherently problematic and evil.

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Anonymous #4 5d

That was for the atonement of our sins and was the ultimate display of love

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Anonymous #8 5d

Nope. Can’t atone for others. Even as a blood sacrifice (which he loves, by the way).

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Anonymous OP 5d

Hey man I don’t have the proof for it and even if I did, I don’t think it would change your mind so fine, he did inspire it. Doesn’t mean he condoned it

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Anonymous #8 5d

Didn’t even stay dead so it was pointless if you want to stretch it that far.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Ok man. Let’s see who’s all big and bad at the end of time when you have to face God. Let me ask you, why do you have so much hatred towards God?

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Anonymous #4 5d

Dude what the hell do you mean bro. The point was for him to undergo the suffering for us

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Anonymous #8 5d

So you made that up just because you didn’t like the verse. You didn’t answer. Go ahead. Is it, yes or no?

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Anonymous #8 5d

Ah, yes, when we return to the same nothing prior to birth. Without an abusive, blood-obsessed god who can’t even keep the order of events of creation intact and coherent in its own book. Quick to kill everyone. Whose book’s events are disproved by every field of science and archaeology. Your god wouldn’t deserve worship even if it did exist.

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Anonymous #8 5d

“Ok man, let’s see who’s all big and bad when my God tortures and hurts you for criticizing him, why do you hate him so much??”

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Anonymous #8 5d

And yet plenty of people have suffered far worse for far longer.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Careful! He loves you so much that he made a special torment for if you don’t love him back! 😂

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Anonymous #4 5d

The bible is not a historical account of all of existence. It is just the story of our salvation

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Anonymous #8 5d

Which doesn’t exist.

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Anonymous #4 5d

I don’t know man. Getting your skin ripped off after 40 lashings and then having to carry a 300 lb cross for 60m while still receiving lashings, getting a spiky crown of thorns stuck into your skull and then hanging on the cross naked for 3 hours sounds like the worst suffering ANYONE has ever been through

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Anonymous OP 5d

I already answered you.

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Anonymous #8 5d

You didn’t answer, is it good, that God commanded people to own children as property from birth? (chattel slavery) yes or no?

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Anonymous #4 5d

“He’ll throw you into eternal fire if you’re mean!! why don’t you like the guy??”

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Anonymous OP 5d

God did not command people to do that though.

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Anonymous #8 5d

You clearly haven’t heard of people like Junko Furuta. Or concentration camp survivors. Indigenous people who your mythology justified the near extinction of.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Those people did suffer, but they did not have their literal bones exposed while having to carry the cross

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Anonymous #8 5d

Leviticus 25. Quite literally says your sky daddy commands it. Said to Moses.

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Anonymous #4 5d

The entire chapter 25 of Leviticus commands what? Slavery?

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Anonymous #4 5d

Leviticus 25 is laying down the process of how to properly sell land and belongings. There is no trace of God telling people that they SHOULD buy people.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Lev 25:44-46.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Look man you got it. I’ll continue to worship God (sky daddy or whatever other blasphemy you would like). God desires a relationship with all of you, and if you want to be caught up in yall’s own misconceptions of the word of God to “prove” he does not exist, then go right ahead. Be the God of your own world. I just warn you that He WILL come back one day.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Ah, yes. How he was supposed to return in the lifetimes of his immediate disciples. And then again every year since then. 🤣 No, I don’t want another abusive relationship. You can keep that shit. I’d take hell for eternity over an hour with your little fictitious being.

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Anonymous #4 5d

You don’t even mean that.

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Anonymous #8 5d

I do, wholeheartedly. I’d spit in the face of your god for what your book has described it as. Nothing in the trash heap of fire and gnashing teeth and darkness is worse than what I and many others have endured and I’ll never submit to an abusers demands again.

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Anonymous #4 5d

As the quote goes— “If there is a god, he will have to beg for my forgiveness.”

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Anonymous #8 5d

You didn’t answer or address anything I said lol

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Anonymous #8 5d

I didn’t ask if your opinion changes the reality of what the verse commands

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Anonymous #2 5d

Christianity isn’t anti-abortion, some christians are. There’s a difference. You’re right on the gay marriage bit, christianity isn’t progressive either. But its more progressive than conservative.

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Anonymous #10 5d

(for the record i am not here to disprove you, just to understand your side. Only had to include that so i don’t have to receive a whole bunch of crap from some jerk) Could you tell me where you got that assumption from? The thing about christianity and anti-abortion.

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Anonymous #8 5d

The only thing it says about abortion is how to perform one.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Why did you lie about what’s inside the verses of the bible?

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Anonymous #4 5d

Could you reference said verse. I looked up “verses in the bible that reference abortion” and the only things that came up were things about miscarriages and whether the loss of a baby in the womb was considered bad or good

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Anonymous #7 5d

Change that to conservatives who watch their Fox News slop every night.

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Anonymous #5 5d

Are the democrats perfect? Nope, nobody is here is claiming that. However, they are far closer to moral than republicans.

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Anonymous #11 5d

I think that if you are on either side of the extreme then you are wrong. If you want to bring up morality though, it depends on what you classify as THE moral standard

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Anonymous #8 5d

No answer?

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Anonymous #8 5d

How is being progressive wrong? 🤣

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Anonymous #8 5d

Numbers 5:11-31.

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Anonymous #2 5d

Christianity preaches love over hate all the time I’d say the original posters point is maga supporters have lost the plot and they’re thinking like you whereas they should be seeing it as my partying is causing and spreading more hate than love

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Anonymous #7 5d

Not even remotely close to being tough

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Anonymous #12 5d

^^^

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Anonymous #4 5d

That is about a ritual to prove if a man’s wife was unfaithful.

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Anonymous #8 5d

When God in Exodus 21:4 told people to own children as property, was that good, yes or no? Last chance to engage honestly before I take away your privilege to engage at all

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Anonymous OP 5d

Look take me off I don’t really care. Whatever I say won’t change anything. But no I don’t think it’s wrong that children belong to their parents.

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Anonymous #8 5d

That’s not what the verse said lol. The verse says the kids will be property of the master. Being born, being labeled as property, without your consent, that chattel slavery God said for that to happen, was that good? Yes or no? This should be easy to answer idk why you feel the need to avoid it

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Anonymous OP 5d

Well answering yes would be implying that I partially agree with slavery. No I don’t think slavery is right and anyone should be owned by anyone else. Was that formerly mosaic law, yes. Did God come down in human form to fulfill ALL of the Old Testament though, YES (Matthew 5:17)

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Anonymous #8 5d

My apologies for reading it wrong at first. I am cutting the grass rn lol

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Anonymous #8 5d

I didn’t ask if God came down to fulfill old testament laws, I didn’t ask your opinion on slavery. This is a very direct question and if you’re engaging honestly you should be able to answer. Was God commanding people to own children as property to slave masters, good, yes or no?

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Anonymous OP 5d

I ANSWERED YOU

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Anonymous #8 5d

“NO I DONT THINK THAT IT IS RIGHT”

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Anonymous #8 5d

You said you don’t think slavery is right. That’s not what I asked. You said God fulfilled the OT. I didn’t ask you if he did. God commanded that, simple yes or no. Was that good?

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Anonymous #8 5d

Great, then you think your own God commanded something immoral.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yes. You have single-handedly disproven God! Even though Jesus is the most historically documented person, and thousands of people died throughout history JUST to say that he did rise from the dead. Oh, and you also disproved the divine inspiration of the bible even though the bible was written by 40 different men over hundreds of years over 3 different continents and ALL of the books happened to synoptically tell the same story. Good job man

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Anonymous #8 5d

I wasn’t trying to disprove Gods existence. Stop crying You just admitted that he commanded something you agree is immoral. That’s all that was.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Ok? And what’s your point that you are trying to make?

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Anonymous #8 5d

That you don’t even think your God is all good. Him factually not existing is an entirely separate point.

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Anonymous OP 5d

How about this. The bible is not completely perfect because it was written by imperfect people.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Is the bible a collection of writings inspired divinely by God and what he commanded to people, yes or no?

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yes. The message is inspired. Did people falter every now and then when writing it? Maybe

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Anonymous #8 5d

Do you have sufficient evidence to suggest the verse in Exodus 21:4 was human faltering, yes or no?

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Anonymous OP 5d

Well, slavery was a human wrong. God did not make anyone start slavery

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Anonymous OP 5d

Your surface level understanding of the Bible doesn’t disprove Gods existence, just because a 2 year old says 2+2=5 doesn’t make math not exist

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Anonymous #8 5d

That isn’t what I asked

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Anonymous #13 5d

I wasn’t trying to disprove his existence. There’s no proof he exists but I was disproving the concept he’s an all good God. Do you think it’s good to condone owning people as chattel slaves, yes or no?

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Anonymous #3 5d

It also talks about following the rules of the land that you’re traveling in and if you’re entering illegally, well you’re already breaking the rules

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Anonymous OP 5d

Tell me where God condones chattel slavery?

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Anonymous OP 5d

The “slavery” God condoned was when you were in financial ruin. You sold yourself into slavery for seven years and then you were freed and given resources to start over again. In the time you were a slave, you were fed clothed and housed.

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Anonymous #14 5d

So that must be why Leviticus has rules on it. It was a system that existed at the time to get out of debt. That part of the book was just regulating that practice

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Anonymous #8 5d

That’s also not an answer.

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Anonymous #14 5d

That’s not an answer. I’m not talking about indentured servitude which I’m aware of exists in the dynamic of the parents in verses like Exodus 21:4. I’m talking about the children born to servants, whom don’t have the option of not being “property” of the slave owner/master. Answer

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Anonymous #14 5d

I realize I’m talking to 13 in reference to that question now, but I’ll ask you as well. Do you think it’s good for God to command people to own other people (group a) as property without those people’s (group a) consent?

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Anonymous OP 5d

Dude you just don’t get it. I’m asking you because I don’t believe God condones people to partake in chattel slavery dude. You made that claim, so give us your rationale so we can continue the conversation

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Anonymous #8 5d

Y’all need to read your own book and find where it says to abolish slavery. We’ll wait. Been 2000 years of the same excuses.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Why should the bible call to abolish slavery? And slavery of who? And also, what excuses?!

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Anonymous #8 5d

You haven’t answered. I will give you a rationale after you answer. You agreed that what he commanded was immoral. I no longer need to accept that you don’t believe that he did it because you already said him commanding it “wasn’t right”

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Anonymous #4 5d

He really just said why should the bible call for slavery to end. But not anything against why God said it’s okay to own children as property if you own slaves

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Anonymous #8 5d

Wow. That’s a new low for you, but on par with the rest of your mythology.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Why should the bible, the book in which he gets his moral stances, say it’s not okay with the dehumanization of people and turning them into property for forced labor is what he just said

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Anonymous OP 5d

Im done with this man. Yall got it. We got Mr “you haven’t answered my question and we got some chud who also hates his life and chooses to believe in a bleak existence. Have great lives guys and remember that God is always there when you decide to face the truth

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Anonymous #8 5d

Normally I wouldn’t close a constructive argument like that but after the countless insults of God and the bible I just coundlt with it anymore. No amount of debate will change your mind and you sure as hell aren’t changing mine

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Anonymous OP 5d

The purpose of that command (assuming I’m understanding you correctly) is to make sure to take care of each other. Even if it is basically indentured servitude, it’s a way to make sure that not only are all your debts paid but also to make sure you’re taken care of for a small-ish amount of time and that you get a little bit afterwards to help you get back on your feet.

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Anonymous #8 5d

Hope you get out of the bloody death cult some day soon.

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Anonymous OP 5d

this is the longest reply chain i’ve ever seen

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Anonymous #8 5d

All you have to do is answer the questions I ask directly. You’re not an idiot so I’m not sure why you intend on a ting like one when I ask you a direct question.

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Anonymous #14 5d

I did not ask you to explain the purpose of the command. Answer the question I actually asked.

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Anonymous OP 4d

you don’t understand and that’s okay. The NT fulfills much of the OT through Jesus, making it obsolete in many ways.

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Anonymous #18 4d

So yes or no, is it good that God commanded people to engage in chattel slavery in reference to Exodus 21:4?

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Anonymous OP 4d

You don’t know what you’re talking about. A simple Google search would’ve shown you this has nothing to do with chattel slavery. Individuals in ancient times would sell themselves to pay off their debts.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I’ll ask you the same thing so you can also avoid it. If God said to own people as property, without those people’s consent, would that be god or bad?

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Anonymous OP 4d

This assumes ancient slavery (≈3.2k years ago) is the same as modern slavery (≈500 years ago) but it’s not. Ancient people consented to servitude to pay off debts.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Progressive taxing is a cancer and being able to do sex change surgeries on children is pretty horrible.

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Anonymous #5 4d

You are worshipping a God that told people to own people as property. But you don’t seem to mind that. Your morals are not based in anything rational

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Anonymous #5 4d

Also not an answer. Go ahead.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Again you’re confusing modern slavery with ancient Hebrew slavery, if it should even be called that, most people refer to it as bondservant. Hebrew “slaves” lived with the family, worked with the family, if the master was physically abusive the servant was legally granted immediate freedom. They had a right to rest on the sabbath, and when they finished paying off their debts they would be gifted sheep, grain, and wine to start their new life.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I’m aware of what indentured servitude is. And aware of the context of what I’m asking. You’re not answering. Go ahead.

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Anonymous OP 4d

If these rules weren’t set in place Hebrew slavery would’ve looked a lot like other harsher methods of slavery at the time.

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Anonymous #5 4d

Good or bad, which one?

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Anonymous OP 4d

Ur question makes no sense tho, I already told you the historical context of it, and they did consent to it. And there is no “if” cause that’s a nonsense hypothetical.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I didn’t ask about the historical context, I’m aware of the context. I know what I’m asking and so do you. I know what indentured servitude means which is why I’m asking specifically what I’m asking. IF God said to own people as property, without those people’s consent, would that be bad, yes or no? This should not be so hard to answer.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Did he say that tho?

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Anonymous #5 4d

yes or no?

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Anonymous #5 4d

The fact that you are trying so hard to engage dishonestly, is telling

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Anonymous OP 4d

And stop downvoting me brah like chill out son 😭😭

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Anonymous #5 4d

Cool so you will avoid it! That’s all I needed to know. Thanks for proving my point bro

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Anonymous OP 4d

Literally what are you talking about, what if anything? What if God did this or that? Saying “what if” isn’t a valid argument.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I don’t ask what if anything. You’re proving my point that all you christians can’t answer this really simple question. I got what I wanted bro, you literally did everything in your power to avoid it lmao

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Anonymous OP 4d

I’m not avoiding anything your arguments just aren’t even arguments, you’re committing a slippery slope fallacy that’s why I’m not even taking you seriously.

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Anonymous #5 4d

“My arguments” was a single question you never answered lmao

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Anonymous OP 4d

Holy low iq😭😭 you can’t be serious right now, you’re asking a ridiculous “what if” question. Of course I’m not answering a stupid question like that because it’s a FALLACY, like what don’t you understand? you have no argument to make you’re phrasing a fallacy in the form of a question how old are you?

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Anonymous #5 4d

You calling it a fallacy doesn’t make it one. But thanks for admitting you literally will avoid answering it lmao. If we had gotten past the first thing I asked you that for some reason really offended you, I would’ve proven my point with actual biblical proof but you got hung up on a singular question mark bro lmaoo

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Anonymous #5 4d

Me to you when you can’t answer 1 thing:

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Anonymous #5 4d

me when you can’t understand a yes or no question:

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Anonymous OP 4d

😭😭😭

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Anonymous #5 4d

you coulda saved us both our time by just saying that you did wanna avoid it lmao

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Anonymous OP 4d

Dawg ok I’ll play your game. Yes it would be wrong but it depends on the context.

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Anonymous #5 4d

Only took you 2 whole hours holy wow. Cool, do you agree if someone cannot physically say no, then you imposing a social status upon them is forced?(unconsensual) If you don’t intend on answering save us both the time by just saying you wanna avoid anything that slightly contests your belief

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I’m talking to 5, we can DM though! And we can continue

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Anonymous OP 4d

Yeah by definition

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Anonymous #5 4d

Great, in Exodus 21:4 God gives a command in which masters (of slaves/indentured servants) are to own the child of the servant from birth, as property. The child cannot consent to being owned as property, but God says that the master is to own them, not their parents, the master. Thanks for acknowledging that God did something immoral!

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Anonymous #19 4d

America was founded with secular values. That’s in our constitution.

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Anonymous #5 4d

full disclosure i’m waiting for the “no but it’s actually ok that he told people to own kids as property” argument or the “missing context” thing

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Anonymous OP 4d

you sound very closed minded on the issue. not gonna try and convince you, since that wouldn’t really go anywhere. But Jesus loves you, I’m praying for you, and I hope you have a great Easter with some family or friends!

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Anonymous OP 4d

Yeah technically but if you look at the culture it was majority Christian

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Anonymous #18 4d

The irony of me saying “feel free to DM me to debate” and you saying “no you’re close minded” You’re the only one who seems to be close minded on the issue

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Anonymous #19 4d

No not technically. In reality the constitution was intentionally built on secular principles

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Anonymous OP 4d

I said technically yes so im agreeing thts what it was built on but the culture was Christian

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Anonymous #19 4d

America was founded with secular beliefs lmao. founded is a key term there you used

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Anonymous OP 4d

weren’t all of the founding fathers Christian? also if you look at the constitutions of the individual colonies, they many of them privileged and promoted Christianity

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Anonymous #18 4d

no they weren’t some had beliefs ranging from devout Protestantism to Deism and "theistic rationalism"

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Anonymous #18 4d

Exactly #18 the OP just sounds like they’re bored and looking for something to do atp

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Anonymous #18 4d

Didn’t you say you were not going to engage with me? I don’t appreciate that you chose to lie to my face just to make another comment.

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Anonymous #19 4d

Me correcting you isn’t exactly a pleasant thing I would like to do. I’m just doing it because you’re wrong

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Anonymous OP 4d

Sounds like OP make a post for engagement and views, look at all these replies 18 I appreciate you back me up but im gonna stop engaging people like this

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Anonymous #19 4d

You said that to me bright eyes lol.

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Anonymous #16 4d

I don’t care what your mythology says. It doesn’t belong in government or in other people’s bodies and healthcare.

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Anonymous OP 4d

sooooo not secularism.

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Anonymous #18 4d

Xtianity isn’t in the Constitution and the first amendment specifically bars government preference and overreach using any one belief, but that’s never been listened to because xtian nationalists think they run the fucking planet.

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Anonymous #18 4d

You said you were done, are you backpacking now?

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Anonymous #18 4d

The constitution is secular bright eyes. I was answering that they weren’t all christian. Reading shouldn’t be this hard

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Anonymous #4 4d

I’m not saying it does, but we use biblical principles to guide the way we engage with the the world around us 🤷‍♀️ it just so happens that we Christians also use them to determine how we vote. I’m personally not a fan of how MAGA pretends to be christian and gives people who actually read the bible and have a relationship with God a bad name.

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Anonymous #16 4d

They follow the bible a lot more closely. They don’t cherry pick just the flowery bits, but they fully embrace harming minorities and dominating non-xtians. Besides, the road to atheism is paved with bibles read cover to cover.

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Anonymous #4 4d

Can you back up MAGA ideas with Scripture? I’d like to see exactly what exactly backs up their policies.

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Anonymous #16 4d

They defend and are rapists, racists, xenophobes, ableist, care only for themselves and not for others, the list goes on.

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Anonymous #16 4d

We don’t do that. That’s entirely untrue

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