Believe me I’m MORE than happy to disclaim any obligation to have an opinion on abortion, but… does this make any kind of sense at all? I mean, by that logic adults shouldn’t have an opinion on abortion because they’re at no risk of being aborted. And we shouldn’t have an opinion on, say, Ukraine because we’re not the ones invading it. I mean, really this works with ANY issue that doesn’t directly impact you, but do you buy the idea that people shouldn’t care about other people?
the man wanting to keep the baby is a valid reason to upset about it but shouldn’t be the only reason to consider keeping it. there should be a mutual agreement on what to do and no compromises that put more emotional stress on someone already in emotional stress is ever going to be a good thing
He IS at risk though—in this society and economy, it is excruciatingly difficult to actually raise a child alone. So he’s 100% at risk in a non-medical way. He might be taking care of her all 9 months. Some men take time off work for the appointments, and therefore lose money to be by the pregnant individual’s side. There are sacrifices and risks and if a father can love a child that’s born, a man can love the idea of having that child of his own and have to grieve the child, even if aborted.
Embryo and fetus are just terms for stages of development like baby or toddler, one fertilization occurs a human being begins its life and starts growing. We were all a fertilized egg once. To me that is life. There are cases where abortion is necessary to protect the mom or rape/incest occurs, but it can still be sad. And you can recognize the science of life. Any other milestone that declares life is superficial and based off of your own personal agenda.
An organ is part of your body, a fetus has its own body. That’s why it’s different. These are scientifically different circumstances and should be treated as such. In general you need your own organs. So no…it’s not murder to not give away your own organ. But it would be to eliminate a growing person.
Growing a baby is a natural Process, giving a kidney to a stranger is not. If you cannot separate the situationally of these two circumstances then you have some screws loose. The baby releases fetal cells that help the mom during pregnancy while the mom protects the baby. You are not literally giving all your organs to the baby…you are still using your kidneys and have a functioning body. I will no longer entertain the stupidity of this conversation with a reply, have a nice day.
I’m glad you recognise the stupidity of forcing carrying a foetus. You really should brush up on “autonomy”. You cannot be forced to have your body used in a way you do not want it to be used, even if it would save someone else. You don’t dictate who gets an abortion. Only the pregnant individual does. That’s all there is to it.