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Men shouldn’t have an opinion on abortion because men aren’t the ones who have to carry the baby in them.
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Anonymous 4w

Women shouldn’t have an opinions on men because women aren’t the ones who are men

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Anonymous 4w

Maybe, but a man wanting to keep the baby and the woman wanting to abort is a devastating situation that shouldn’t be overlooked

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Anonymous 4w

not only should it be legal it should Be mandatory. do it with a crossbow

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Anonymous 4w

Believe me I’m MORE than happy to disclaim any obligation to have an opinion on abortion, but… does this make any kind of sense at all? I mean, by that logic adults shouldn’t have an opinion on abortion because they’re at no risk of being aborted. And we shouldn’t have an opinion on, say, Ukraine because we’re not the ones invading it. I mean, really this works with ANY issue that doesn’t directly impact you, but do you buy the idea that people shouldn’t care about other people?

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Anonymous 4w

All humans were once babies in the womb, including men. You don’t dictate who gets to have an opinion about anything

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Anonymous 4w

Don’t forget trans men and nonbinary people who could get pregnant and desire an abortion! They also get an opinion on abortion!

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Anonymous 4w

I mean the baby has half of the man’s DNA and half of the woman’s DNA. I think he has just as much say as the woman

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

What do you mean by mandatory.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

like everyone should get one for free

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Oh

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

the man wanting to keep the baby is a valid reason to upset about it but shouldn’t be the only reason to consider keeping it. there should be a mutual agreement on what to do and no compromises that put more emotional stress on someone already in emotional stress is ever going to be a good thing

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4w

Trans men are the only men who get any input on abortion. And even then, it’s only for his own— nobody else’s.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Idk why people are downvoting you this is hilarious

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Nah he can quit whining and go knock up somebody that also wants a kid.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

But it still isn’t anyone’s decision except the person carrying. They are the only one who gets a definitive say and can make that decision.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 4w

Nope. He’s not the one carrying and at risk.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4w

If you’re not the one carrying, you don’t get a say.

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Anonymous 4w

Imagine being so far from the point.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Right. The woman carries the child but it’s a joint effort to create the child. Saying he doesn’t have a say reduces fatherhood to just biology but motherhood is that and more. Just because he’s not carrying or at risk, doesn’t erase the fact he’s still a parent

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

As a woman. You’re right but then we have no reason to shit on men for up and leaving if they don’t agree with the decision to keep or abort a baby 🤷

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

He IS at risk though—in this society and economy, it is excruciatingly difficult to actually raise a child alone. So he’s 100% at risk in a non-medical way. He might be taking care of her all 9 months. Some men take time off work for the appointments, and therefore lose money to be by the pregnant individual’s side. There are sacrifices and risks and if a father can love a child that’s born, a man can love the idea of having that child of his own and have to grieve the child, even if aborted.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Abortion is murder. Unless you say your opinion on murder of someone else that you don’t know is irrelevant your point is irrelevant

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4w

at what exact point is it murder. When it’s a fertilized egg? When it’s an embryo? what part of the gestation do you consider to be murder

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Moment of conception

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Embryo and fetus are just terms for stages of development like baby or toddler, one fertilization occurs a human being begins its life and starts growing. We were all a fertilized egg once. To me that is life. There are cases where abortion is necessary to protect the mom or rape/incest occurs, but it can still be sad. And you can recognize the science of life. Any other milestone that declares life is superficial and based off of your own personal agenda.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I gotta say, I don’t really agree with some of the implications/impacts of what you’re saying, but you seem very level and reasonable. I hope you have a good day man. You seem chill

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 4w

You as well

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4w

So then it’s murder to not give away your organs to others who are dying without them, according to you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

An organ is part of your body, a fetus has its own body. That’s why it’s different. These are scientifically different circumstances and should be treated as such. In general you need your own organs. So no…it’s not murder to not give away your own organ. But it would be to eliminate a growing person.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Well, that growing kid needs your kidney, so… you’re murdering them by not letting them have access to your body.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Growing a baby is a natural Process, giving a kidney to a stranger is not. If you cannot separate the situationally of these two circumstances then you have some screws loose. The baby releases fetal cells that help the mom during pregnancy while the mom protects the baby. You are not literally giving all your organs to the baby…you are still using your kidneys and have a functioning body. I will no longer entertain the stupidity of this conversation with a reply, have a nice day.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I’m glad you recognise the stupidity of forcing carrying a foetus. You really should brush up on “autonomy”. You cannot be forced to have your body used in a way you do not want it to be used, even if it would save someone else. You don’t dictate who gets an abortion. Only the pregnant individual does. That’s all there is to it.

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