Anonymous og_beer 20w

They act like Canva isn’t an option or LITERALLY ANY OTHER EDITING SITE

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Anonymous #3 20w

GOOGLE DOCS BRO

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Anonymous #3 20w

LITERALLY ANYTHING

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Anonymous #6 20w

You can just not use the ai features

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Because its not accurate at all lol

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Also one single AI generation/search uses 50ml of water and it could use up to 282,135 gallons by 2028.

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Anonymous #1 20w

All US data centers use about 17 billion gallons of water yearly. US golf courses use 500+ billion gallons of water yearly. California’s almond industry uses 1-2 trillion gallons of water yearly. US corn irrigation uses tens of trillions of gallons of water yearly.

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Anonymous #5 20w

Why are you making excuses for data centers to be allowed to use our drinking water?

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Anonymous #1 20w

Pointing out scale isn’t the same as defending it

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Anonymous #1 20w

If someone is angry about data centers using 17 billion gallons/year but doesn’t care about golf courses using 500+ billion or agriculture using trillions, then the issue probably isn’t actually water usage

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Anonymous #5 20w

Why would I be angry about water being used for agriculture l since its being used to produce food?

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Anonymous #1 20w

Golf courses?

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Anonymous #5 20w

“Why are you mad the job stealing computers steal drinking water from drought prone areas instead of being mad that the food that keeps us alive takes water!!!!” Ok

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

You completely missed the point. Comparing scale isn’t saying “food bad”. It’s pointing out that people hyperfocus on AI while industries using orders of magnitude more water barely get mentioned.

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Anonymous #5 20w

ai: useless. golf courses: nuke them. agriculture: it’s food? like yes the systems need reform, but like mf that’s FOOD.

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Anonymous #7 20w

AI is already being used for cancer detection, medical imaging analysis, drug discovery, protein folding, stroke detection, fraud prevention, accessibility tools for disabled people, emergency dispatch triage, etc etc etc. I’m an EMT (the person who responds to 911 calls), a CS masters student, and work with dispatch centers optimizing stationing so I CAN RESPOND TO YOUR 911 CALLS FASTER BECAUSE OF AI

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Tf u mean why?

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Anonymous #8 20w

I want to hear people’s opinions?

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Golf courses should be illegal

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Use 30x more water

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Anonymous #8 20w

I agree!

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Anonymous #5 20w

It’s also a giant patch of biodiversity and habitat loss replaced by an invasive species

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Anonymous #8 20w

Elaborate?

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Scotland, the only place on earth that naturally has the evironment for the sport

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Devils advocate here golf courses provide better services than consumer generative ai data centers

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

I’d like the point you to the comment about cancer detection

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Or just find smth fun to do that’s actually ethical in ur area

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Anonymous #8 20w

W #9

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Anonymous #5 20w

I was gonna make a mean joke about ai brainrot being cancer but decided against it

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Sorry I deleted my comment. Go ahead Can't save lives with increased cancer detection and 1/30th the water that gold courses use 💔 🥀

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Anonymous #5 20w

I’m not pro golf courses. I don’t think anyone who complains about ai data center water use are pro golf courses. It’s a nice strawman though

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

I’ve never heard someone complain about golf courses water use though

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Anonymous #5 20w

Congrats you just outed yourself for not going to environmental centered spaces while trying to argue for environmental concerns. People never shut up about them

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Source?

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Anonymous #5 20w

the reason people are focusing on AI above the others you mentioned is because AI is at the cause of a lot of other problems that are only going to get worse if we do not put a stop to it now. the other issues are important, yes, but your entire argument falls under the red herring fallacy. AI is the priority atm - most people are capable of understanding congruent problems happen simultaneously, while also being able to focus on one problem at a time

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Oh no I hate the environment, hence I use AI. But if people are concerned about AI’s water use, they should be more concerned about other things

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Anonymous #10 20w

Like what problems?

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Anonymous #10 20w

personally idc about the water issues with golf courses and agriculture because flock cameras have made their way into my neighborhood and more data centers are being built all around my city, so THAT is my priority. i am still concerned about golf (i’ve been bitching about it for years) and agriculture (envs student who studies this in class) but i am much more immediately concerned about the flock camera that is pointed towards a children’s park, or the one pointing down my street

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Anonymous #10 20w

Oh yeah flock is abhorrent. Some high up C suite person said “we’ve never been hacked” as I watched someone do a speech from one of their cameras he got access too 😂

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Anonymous #5 20w

Quit being a shill for the environmental, ethical, mental health catastrophe that is generating AI. GPT isn’t the same as what’s used for cancer detection or accessibility, quit trying to frame it as such. There’s no reason to use shit like GPT. Fuck you.

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Anonymous #11 20w

Gpt helps my mental health

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Anonymous #5 20w

Is there a brain in that skull of yours?

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Anonymous #1 20w

I’m about to finish a masters so I like to think so?

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Anonymous #5 20w

No it does not, it feeds into what u say and answers only with what it thinks u want and not about any facts

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Anonymous #8 20w

So glad you know about my experiences, thanks

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Anonymous #5 20w

Yea somehow I doubt you’ll get very far

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Anonymous #5 20w

If you use chatgpt for it then you definitely do not have a brain. 😂😂😂😂

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Anonymous #8 20w

Don’t see why we have to personally attack people, I thought we were having a relatively productive conversation

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Anonymous #1 20w

Ok I’m not like an avid AI defender or anything, but not accurate at all is a reach lol unless you’re talking about certain math

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Anonymous #13 20w

So you've never seen Google's AI results not be accurate before? Highly doubt that.

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Anonymous #1 20w

Google ai is always perfect I have no idea what you mean

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Google AI told me the last presidential assassination was James a Garfield in 1881

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It’s objectively not. It has been shown to make anxiety, depression, and psychosis worse. And had been caught telling people struggling with suicidal idealization to commit. Not to mention all that data and those chats can be used against you, esp legally, or potentially for jobs. Do NOT use ai.

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Anonymous #1 20w

Honestly, I don’t really look at the AI over view too much , but when I do, it’s pretty much accurate every time. I’m not saying it’s never wrong but I’m saying not accurate at all is just an exaggeration in my opinion

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

There are good and bad ways to use everything.

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

You say it’s been shown to make those things worse, but hasn’t really been around long enough for us to truly know that and can that be applied to everyone? And I’ve heard about that but let’s not use like a one in 1 million case to just make a blanket statement about it.

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Anonymous #13 20w

Would you continue using a therapist if you were told they encouraged a suicidal patient to do it?

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Anonymous #14 20w

I don’t think you realize how petty I am and am willing to go back to the stone ages to avoid it

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Hey you do you I’m just saying it’s crucial in a lot of stuff including production of the device me and you are communicating with

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Anonymous #5 20w

Whew, glad someone said it. Because there are much more pressing matters with AI USE. That being the energy cost and "DATA CENTERS". Now that's why you should be against the rapid expansion of AI growth.

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Anonymous #14 20w

Which you can easily avoid using

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Better services to the upper class. I.e little to no benefit to the majority of Americans that reside in the U.S

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Umm, you know mini golf places exist, like Top Golf. If anything, a full golf course is Boomer Coded. And you need to realize that most people can't even afford all the shii needed to go there. There are much better ways to enjoy golf now

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Hmm, you should also look at what part of the public uses Golf Courses, (Oh yeah, that's the Upper Class that lives in country clubs talking about how rich they are and not giving a shiii about everyone else).

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Anonymous #1 20w

yk the great thing about water is it can be reused

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Anonymous #10 20w

But like, people are still focusing on the wrong thing. The main issue with AI data centers isn't the water usage, it's the creation of Data centers that create almost no jobs and raise the living cost around itself. As well as being a nuisance to the area

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

Okay now, I highly doubt you'll go all the way to the stone age now. But fair pt

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Anonymous #14 20w

Also, AI 100% is not crucial in a lot of modern technology. Companies are jsut going out of their way to justify the Immense amt of money they put into AI instead of saying "my bad" and stop making proprietary BS that needs AI use.

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Anonymous 5n34ky801 20w

But yes, there are "Some helpful" things that greatly benefit from the use of AI. Stuff like genome editing, and other medical research that is made mcuh more efficient when utilized alongside LICENSESD doctors, not some random person with little exp.

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Anonymous 5n34ky801 20w

It absolutely does scientist and engineers have been building models with AI and running algorithms with them for years and statistically it’s made efficiency better

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

beer has water in it, boycott beer immediately

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Anonymous #17 20w

WOAH HEY

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Anonymous #17 20w

NO I LOVE BEER PLEASE

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Anonymous #5 20w

jagerbombs only

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Anonymous #17 20w

Upsetting news about jager and redbull there mate

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Anonymous #5 20w

You are an idiot. The data centers are for the other kind of AI. Also the detection and imaging analysis are extremely inaccurate. They tested well because of poor testing materials. Generative AI is what everyone hates. It's what takes water, it's what sells your data, it's what has massive data centers. Stop defending AI when we are clearly talking about different AIs

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Anonymous #18 20w

Is there anything I can say that would change your mind?

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Anonymous #18 20w

AI = Artificial Intelligence. all the same

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Anonymous og_beer 20w

my favorite german and austrian beverages

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Anonymous #17 20w

That's like saying "automobiles. All the same" like not tf they aren't. You need to learn more about AI before you compare them.

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Anonymous #18 20w

if you put wheels on my grandmother she would have been a bike

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Anonymous #17 20w

Pretty fair, with a lot of people in the chat harping on the miniscule amt of water data centers use compared to much bigger things in the U.S that really aren't necessary (looking at you golf). And there's also a Fuk ton of resources that goes into...

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Anonymous #5 20w

Not about generative AI. It's clearly a net negative. Analytic AI can work wonders, but those are not the same.

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Anonymous 5n34ky801 20w

raising cattle. I'm sure it could be better managed, but isn't to make the process cheaper. But I'm not going vegan anytime soon.

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is it though?

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Anonymous 5n34ky801 20w

Well, we can agree that cattle has a net positive though... AI is shitty AND using important resources. It's like playing Minecraft survival mode and your little sibling just starts making an infinite number of diamond hoes... like we need those diamonds buddy, and the hoe is the worst thing to use it on.

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Anonymous #18 20w

You know water is reusable right)

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Anonymous #18 20w

so fuck the earth as long as it benefits me

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Anonymous #18 20w

Also one hamburger takes 660 gallons of water. Chicken takes 1/4 to 1/6 of what beef takes

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Bro what 😭

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Anonymous #5 20w

playing devils advocate here i conferred, with claude, and the issue is that even though that water will end up back on the surface eventually it might not be in the same location so in more arid places it is using water that is scarce to begin with

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i too love getting drunk with my rich friends and hitting little white balls with a stick

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No it’s okay, we’re not bashing golf. I’m just saying if people are only bashing AI because of the water use, they are being ignorant.

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golf is a sport as chess is a sport

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Anonymous 5n34ky801 20w

That’s what I’m talking about obviously they aren’t letting some chud in his basement that knows how to train an AI run numbers and machinery that have massive impact my point is many people that are against AI fail to make that distinction I just hate a lack of Nuance

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Anonymous #19 20w

As an artist, I hate AI and the people that use it to create art. If you suck at art, who cares? If you use a machine to create art, you suck.

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Anonymous #18 20w

Oh my - thank you. And I’m sorry I missed the art aspect. This is something that I truly don’t understand and I’m totally an idiot for arts. In this case I do understand your concerns haha

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Anonymous #5 20w

my hot take is that i think ai should be reserved for things like these only. the general public should NOT have access to generative ai

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Anonymous #7 20w

The AI he listed isn't even generative AI! Ffs I agree with you, but again we are talking about two completely different types of AI

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True

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https://www.fwpcoa.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=859275&item_id=130961 ok

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Anonymous #17 20w

Omg, just like cattle ranching. https://www.fairr.org/resources/knowledge-hub/water-use Nov 9, 2025 article

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