Anonymous #1 12w

Think of any woman you know. Now what if she was tortured and raped and now is pregnant. Are you really gonna force her to go through more agony?

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Anonymous #2 12w

It’s because pro life people don’t care to think about the other women who got raped or are at risk of dying due to cancer when pregnant

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Anonymous #2 12w

Abortion isn’t a simple yes or no. There’s too much gray area, that’s why this anti abortion law has allowed a baby to develop a rotting dead woman’s body, which had to be dissected out. The baby is premature, blind, and will need medical procedures to keep it alive and stable the rest of its life

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Anonymous OP 12w

Exactly, I can’t stand it. There’s nothing pro-life about it.

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Anonymous #2 12w

I heard a horrible story of a pregnant woman with cancer being taken off of life support because the state law wouldn’t allow her to get an abortion

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Anonymous OP 12w

Oh my god that’s horrible. I hadn’t heard that one. This is genuinely such a heartbreaking time. We had come so far just for it to be ripped away

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Anonymous #2 12w

Yea like pro choice people are only thinking about things from a biblical perspective. Like I’m a Christian too but I still think about other reasons of how taking away abortion can negatively affect women. Like if a woman was 6?weeks pregnant and was at risk of dying in a month if she still had the fetus in her like if she died the fetus wouldn’t continue to survive anyways therefore she should have the right to get an abortion

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Anonymous OP 12w

Yes you’re so right. And I appreciate you sharing your perspective as a Christian. It’s nice to see there are still some that remain open minded and are able to think for themselves while still following their religion

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Anonymous #2 12w

Yes because I can practice my religion and vote accordingly to are laws not having to be based on religious books or Bibles

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Anonymous OP 12w

I completely agree that some pro life people take it too far. I think a mother should be able to have a baby removed if the baby will for certain come out unhealthy and only live for a short amount of time. I also think that a baby should be removed if the mother’s life is at risk. But I cannot see how killing a baby would make rape any better. Yes having a baby is a hard experience and especially if it is the offspring of your rapist but just because He chose to do something bad doesn’t mean —

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And many women go into deep depression from after birth or being forced to have a baby

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Anonymous #1 12w

hey babe. just letting you know it’s actually NOT a baby until it’s viable…..which isn’t until the third trimester for most women! so uh. yeah. pro choice til i die. for like a thousand other reasons, but i hate the willfully ignorant “baby” shit, it’s not a baby when the abortion happens it’s quite literally just cell tissue.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Science does state that it isn’t a baby yet but this person is going on it based on the Bible

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Anonymous OP 12w

i understand that and don’t mean to disregard their faith by any means it’s just a really harmful notion to a LOT of people who can carry a child and a guilt tactic 98% of the time

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Anonymous #3 12w

What do you mean by viable?

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I’m going to hell because I don’t want innocent babies to be punished for the crimes of their father?

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Anonymous #1 12w

But you’re punishing the mothers…

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Anonymous #1 12w

And you also just wrote above that you think abortion would be okay if the baby “will for certain come out unhealthy and only live a short amount of time”. To your logic, you do agree that some innocent babies should be “punished”. But more so, you believe women should have no choice but to suffer through something they did not choose because of the crimes of the father?

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Anonymous #2 12w

That is a fair point. I do still think that killing a baby is a far greater evil than having a mother give birth to her rapists baby. I can definitely see how traumatizing it would be for the mother and how much pain it would cause and I don’t want to discount that. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I Just can’t see it as any other way than punishing and taking an innocent life for a wrong that it has no part in.

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Anonymous #2 12w

I’m confused how an innocent cluster of cells has more rights than an innocent woman in America

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Anonymous OP 12w

I haven’t mentioned the Bible once. My reasoning for this view is based in fact and objective morality.

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Anonymous #2 12w

Putting a person, that is suffering tremendously, out of their misery is not punishing them. It is nothing but mercy. Letting them suffer longer than they have to is more of a punishment than anything else.

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Anonymous #2 12w

I would argue that they have the same rights. The baby has a right not to be killed and the woman’s abuser should be punished. He does not have the right to abuse her so he gets locked away (I think we should castrate all rapists but that’s another discussion). The woman has a right to be safe and when someone violates that they should be punished. (I know sometimes rapists get away with it and that happens more than it should)

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Anonymous #1 12w

Also getting my comment removed because it was taken out of context is a real mature way to have a discussion with someone. I’m being nothing but respectful and trying to have a respectful discussion. I would appreciate the same in return but if not then I am done here.

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I am well aware of what birth does to a woman. Are you aware of what an abortion does to a baby? Injecting their spinal chord with cyanide, causing them to writhe in pain, ripping them limb from limb and crushing their skull. Tbf those are later term abortions. Early term abortions still lead to ripping off the limbs of the baby and tearing its head from its shoulders. This comment will probably be removed but it is nothing but fact.

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All because I share a different opinion than you have, you wish that I would get a lobotomy?

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I am sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are doing well and are receiving the support you need. No one should ever have to suffer through that, I’m sorry. You have a different experience around this than I do. we have different opinions and I respect yours. I think people should be able to have discussions about their differences with no hate towards the other person. We all have different experiences that lead us to having different views. That should be celebrated not demonized.

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I think the main disagreement comes from the fact that you see a fetus as a thing and I see it as a baby. That’s just something we will never agree on and that’s okay. You are just as entitled to your opinion based on your experience as I am. We should be able to discuss our opinions, that we both have as much right to as the other, in a way that is educational and helpful not just attacking someone because you don’t see eye to eye.

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I’m acting exactly how a civilized person should act when they are having a discussion.

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Anonymous #1 12w

I don’t agree with you, as seen earlier. But I do respect you for trying to be civil. I’m tapping out here, Thank you for the discussion. I hope that you and your loved ones never have to experience the pain and consequences that anti-abortion laws can bring.

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Anonymous #2 12w

Thank you as well! I wish you nothing but the best!

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Anonymous #1 12w

So you’d rather someone birth their rapists baby, go into post partum psychosis, strangle the baby till it dies, and go to Jail for life, than take out a clump of cells with no concesness

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Anonymous #5 12w

You have no proof that it is not conscious since we have no idea what consciousness actually is. And no I would not want that to happen. You are using an extreme example in an attempt to make my argument sound bad which is very dishonest. Yes that can happen but it is not the norm. I think the mother should have easy access to give the baby up for adoption if she wanted to and if she decides to keep the baby, she should be given assistance, both mental and physical (monetary).

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