Anonymous #3 4d

He promoted anti-trans, anti-gay, and anti-feminism bullshit but ok

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Anonymous #4 4d

You’re right, that was his opinion. He didn’t deserve to die for it

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Anonymous #3 4d

He didn’t deserve to die, but his opinion did harm people. I personally know people who I am afraid are going to be harmed due to ideas that Charlie Kirk spread. He normalized violence against immigrants, and promoted white supremacy. Charlie advocated to cut welfare for black single mothers; don’t you think they were harmed if they starved because his rhetoric was used to justify cutting their welfare? He wasn’t personally out hurting people, but his rhetoric was used to justify that harm.

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Anonymous #5 4d

Our society has to stop with the idea that words don’t matter. They do. Hatred of others is bad and causes lots of harm, and the only way for those ideas to spread is through words and actions.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I never said I agreed with him or everything he said was valid. He died for using his first amendment right. That is what is wrong, and why it is absolutely insane that people are celebrating. Sure, you can think he wasn’t a great guy, but supporting gun/political violence bc it helps your side is mentally ill behavior, and it means you are part of the problem

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Anonymous #5 4d

Bullets do more harm than words🙃

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Anonymous #3 4d

IMO, he normalized the violence that ended his life. He minimized the problem of gun violence, and he had enough influence that his views affected our society. It’s ironic that he was minimizing gun violence till his literal dying breath, and ended up as one of the statistics he would’ve written off had it been someone else. He maybe could have saved his own life had he not fought so hard against gun control. His words mattered. I think people making fun of him is wrong and unproductive tho.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I just don’t think you can seriously believe that him spreading and normalizing white supremacy did no harm

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Anonymous #5 4d

That’s fine, hate his words all you want, you’re entitled to an opinion too. It’s just that the people who hate gun violence suddenly supported it when it took out someone they didn’t like

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Anonymous #5 4d

It might’ve, but normalizing killing people you don’t agree with politically is worse

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Anonymous #3 4d

I haven’t met anyone except for twitter leftists who are happy about his death. No one I know personally is happy with it. But you can’t rewrite history because he died tragically. there is no way you can say he was “just promoting free speech.” He was a propagandist who made money spreading hate. His method of “spreading ideas” were clips of “SJWs getting owned” at his debates. There’s a reason he only debated at colleges, because we’re young and stupid.

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Anonymous #5 4d

For example, this is a bit extreme, but don’t you think the propagandists in Nazi germany (or any other authoritarian regime) have some level of responsibility for the ideas they promoted? Even if they weren’t the ones physically doing the harm?

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Anonymous #5 3d

They acted on it though. They put words into actions. Charlie went to college campuses to try to talk to young people who are still trying to make up their mind about things. And he did promote free speech. He always let them talk and tell their side. I’ve seen so many clips of him telling HIS crowd to quiet down so the other person could get their opinion out. Yes, he always tried to prove them wrong, but so did they

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Anonymous #3 3d

I think normalizing political violence after this is wrong too. I don’t think the people cheering on his death are doing that though, they are just happy about the fact that a man cheering on their deaths is now dead. I think it’s messed up, but I can understand it.

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Anonymous #5 3d

Also, you said you’ve only seen a couple people on twitter. Find a video on tiktok about Charlie and open the comments. So many people are saying crazy stuff supporting his death

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Anonymous #3 3d

I’m telling you, those clips are propaganda. An example I see people using is saying he’s not racist because he talked to a black person and didn’t use a slur. But Charlie WAS racist, he advocated for the Great Replacement Theory and said black people wanted to kill whites. He debated in bad faith. IMO, I don’t like political debate because it’s easy to make people look foolish using logical fallacies. It’s easy to make bad ideas look good. I prefer long form education.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Charlie’s job was to sell whatever idea made him money, and I think he was really good at it. But I’m telling you to talk to people in real life, not online. No one I know, even the most extreme racists I know, believe anything even close to the Great Replacement Theory.

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Anonymous #5 3d

It’s easy to look at the internet and extrapolate that to how real people think. But most people aren’t chronically online like twitter and TikTok leftists. Like I said, no one in real life that I know feels that way.

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Anonymous #5 3d

I’ve talked to so many people. Most of the time I respond to people saying he deserved it so I know what I’m getting into, but they say he deserved it bc of his opinions. And that’s insane. Trust me, it’s more people than you think

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Anonymous #5 3d

Real people do believe it though. The guy who shot him and the people in the crowd celebrating after it happened are just a few examples. I haven’t talked to too many people in person about it, but I know there’s a lot out there

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Anonymous #3 3d

Well I understand the fact that people had to have written those tweets and comments, so they exist somewhere. And I said before, it’s wrong to make fun of him. But you can’t blame the victims of the violence Charlie normalized against them when they aren’t sad when he was victimized. Words matter. Charlie’s words mattered, and the words of the people being unnecessarily cruel matter. Also, the crowd could have been screaming in fear. How would they know they weren’t next?

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Anonymous #5 3d

Also, you’re the one saying that Charlie has the right to have whatever opinion he wants. But now you’re saying these people can’t have theirs?

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Anonymous #2 3d

They won’t bc this app is liberal as hell

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Anonymous #6 3d

people with an education normally lean left :) wonder why

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Anonymous #7 3d

“Smart people don’t like me,” Trump said it himself

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Anonymous #7 3d

Because public schools are filled with left-leaning indoctrinating teachers. Truly smart people know neither side is good and that voting is pointless. They want us divided.

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Anonymous #5 3d

They can have their opinion. It’s just that it goes against their whole argument. They support gun control but cheer when their opponent is killed and wish death upon the president

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Anonymous #10 3d

Dude, that’s just completely wrong. The idea that the left is “indoctrinating your kids with the woke trans agenda” is just wrong. Being educated just makes you left wing. Also, voting does matter, just look at what’s happening in our country. We like to think everything is stable and will stay the same, but that’s naïve. Voting is the easiest way for people to have an effect on society. Both sides don’t have to be bad.

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Anonymous #5 3d

Politics doesn’t matter TO YOU because you’re comfy and don’t have to worry about anything. For other groups, like trans people, politics matters a lot. You’re treating this like a sport.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Well what are you complaining about if they’re allowed to have an opinion? You said bullets hurt worse than words. These are just words.

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Anonymous #5 3d

Threats are not the same as opinions🙃 An opinion is saying abortion is wrong. A threat is saying you’re going to murder someone for their thoughts on abortion

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Anonymous #9 3d

So one man commits murder and now every single left leaning person is a violent person?? Your logic is not sound.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Mind you the shooter was a groyper but ok

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Anonymous #3 3d

So now you have a problem with the violent rhetoric of the leftists online, but you have no problem with Charlie Kirk’s rhetoric? When Charlie Kirk says, and I quote,” Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more,” isn’t that violent? He didn’t say to kill Black people, but when a large audience is told that Black people are coming to kill them what do you think is going to happen?

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Anonymous #5 3d

Words can be violent without directly calling for it. That’s why hate speech is bad. You’re a hypocrite. You have no problem with violent speech until it’s about certain groups of people.

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Anonymous #9 3d

Historically the left has never been the side of violence lol, you’re a complete idiot if you believe that the right stands for peace. Meanwhile Kirk called for violence… that makes him a violent person. I’m not celebrating his murder, but he was a victim of what he preached.

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Anonymous OP 3d

??? Seriously, who started the KKK and fought to keep slavery? Who destroys their own neighborhoods in violent “protests”? Who shot at President Trump? I could go on, but “historically” the left has been on the side of violence. May I suggest reading some history books. And while Kirk supported the 2nd amendment, he never called for violence.

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Anonymous #9 3d

Republicans who were called Democrats at the time fought for slavery… clearly you missed the memo about the party platforms switching. Must’ve been watching Fox News instead of paying attention in history class. And a registered Republican shot Trump. To me, Kirk’s hate speech & calling for sacrifices so that we can have a second amendment is pretty damn close to a call for violence

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Anonymous #5 1d

Never said anything about trans or woke or whatever ur talking about but I mean school teachers typically look down on the right leaning students you have to have seen it. I also dont agree with “education = left-leaning” because there are countless highly intelligent people who are right leaning or neither. Not taking a side exists. Also assuming my personal situation is crazy. You seem to be left-biased because you’re kinda glazing the left but what do I know.

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Anonymous #10 1d

I am left-biased because I’m left leaning. The left isn’t snatching up immigrants off the street like the right-wing administration is doing right now. What I mean by “education = left” is that you read one history book and you find that the views that the right has atm are wrong. Also, when people talking about things like “white privilege”, “not picking a side” is one of those privileges. You don’t have to pick a side because your life isn’t affected either way.

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Anonymous #5 1d

I’m white, but my brother is adopted from a different country. He has to carry his birth certificate with him 24/7 so he can prove he’s a citizen because ICE is deporting people without due process. Now, you have the right to “not pick a side,” but that just means you don’t give a shit because it doesn’t affect you. I don’t have that luxury. The right ran a platform on mass deportation this last election, so I didn’t pick that. You didn’t pick a side because you didn’t think it was important.

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Anonymous #5 1d

So please explain to me how none of this matters and how both sides are the same. Explain how you’re such a free thinker because you can see how flawed both sides are, and how you’re actually a good person for not doing anything. I hate the Democratic Party, but because we don’t have anything more progressive that’s what I have to go with. For me, my brother’s life is on the line. For you, this is just theater.

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Anonymous #5 20h

Both sides are the same because all the politicians on both sides are bought and paid for by the same people. Also, you’re really good at assuming. What about me screams “I’m white”? You don’t know me, quit pretending like you do. Also, your brother isn’t in danger if he is a citizen, which it sounds like he is. You’re making all of this about you when in reality it has nothing to do with you. You’re saying it’s all theater or sport for me - well, what are you doing then?

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Anonymous #10 7h

I get that both sides are bought by the same people, but that doesn’t mean they are the same. You are not living in reality. ICE is kidnapping people. The DOJ said they would start denaturalizing citizens in a memo they released. I’m “making this about me” because politics affects me. That’s literally my point. Why does my brother have to die in order for people like you to give a shit? I am doing stuff. I’m going out to protests. I’m educating my friends and family.

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Anonymous #5 7h

I live in ND, so there’s not a lot of actual activism to do here. But I’m still going to the protests that are happening here. Also, I don’t care whether you’re white or not. I assumed you were white because it’s strange to me that someone non-white would assume this stuff doesn’t affect them. Citizens have been deported too. Do you think you’re safe from ICE if they racially profile you? And I’m doing more than you. You’re just yapping about how both sides are bad, and then doing nothing.

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Anonymous #5 6h

From what I understand, Kilmar Abrego Garcia was in the country legally. Yet the government has been fighting tooth and nail to send him to CECOT despite his deportation being illegal and them saying they made a mistake. When I see him on the news, I see my brother. If ICE racially profiles him and snatches him up, I am not confident that they would send him back despite him being a citizen. They aren’t sending people back already, what makes you think they’ll do it for my brother?

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