Anonymous #1 2d

I am queer and Catholic and my family love me. you may be thinking of evangelicals

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Anonymous #4 2d

The catholic church time and time again has reaffirmed that engaging in homosexuality is immoral. What is immoral about being gay and acting like you’re gay?

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Anonymous #1 2d

Factually wrong.

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Anonymous #5 1d

It calls same-sex sexual acts "contrary to the natural law". They prohibit sacramental marriage for same-sex couples. it does not recognize or perform same-sex marriages.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Not promoting does not equal hating. The Catholic church makes it a point to accept all, and while they will not support same-sex acts, that does not deny one from taking part in the church. The sacrament of marriage is specific to man and woman as two parts of one whole, it is a religious ceremony, not the legal version, so of course they would not recognize same-sex marriage as the same as the way the church does marriage.

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Anonymous #5 1d

It is true that the church views acting on same-sex desires to be sinful, they separate desire/action from the person. The church dislikes homosexuality but does not dislike homosexuals

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Anonymous #5 1d

do you understand why this is homophobia?

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Anonymous #3 1d

Sure in theory, but also it is more complex than that label. I am a bisexual catholic. I feel the desire to have both heterosexual and homosexual relations, and while I may falter or sin, I also understand that it is a sin. I do not hate that side of me nor do I suppress it, but I know that it is not what I wish to prevail.

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Anonymous #5 1d

“the church doesn’t dislike these people, it just dislikes their identity and their sexuality and who they love and who they’re planning to marry, and the most fundamentally human things about them”

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Anonymous #5 1d

i’m sorry you believe this but this is homophobia

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Anonymous #5 1d

What is a sin? Define that in the most elaborate way you can

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Anonymous #2 1d

You can view it like that but the main belief is that those feelings and identities are real but also misdirected. Urges are not mental illness or sinful, but we are called not to act upon them. You need to understand that the catholic view is that sex is the ultimate bonding of two people in creating new life, marriage is the bonding of two halves into one while they live, identity is bound to soul and spirit as much as body and mind. There are foundational conflicts that make it uncomfortable.

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Anonymous #5 1d

Except it’s not just a bonding of two halves, it’s a bonding of two straight people specifically. Unless the implication is only 2 straight people can reasonably love each other and no other group can with their same sex

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Anonymous #1 1d

it’s whatever christians think it is and i can’t make anything more elaborate than catholics already do

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Anonymous #1 1d

A sin is a divergence from God, or a divergence from the order of the world. It is not that they are evil, but they are unintended or misguided steps away from the path laid before us. The reason why it is so important is because those diversions literally take one farther from God, still loved the same, but they separate the person from one-ness with God.

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Anonymous #1 1d

The implication is that man and woman are two halves of the whole, made complete by eachother. It helps to view it somewhat like charges, positive and negative attract

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Anonymous #5 1d

And are things that diverge from God, good or bad?

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Anonymous #2 1d

Oh oop. Well you know what I mean then lol

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Anonymous OP 1d

no not really, even religious beliefs are built around certain values and opinions. catholicism is ‘othering’ of non-believers, places value on the idea of blind faith, and is imherently anti-feminist and homophobic,

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Anonymous #5 1d

The cognitive dissonance it takes to be you is nearly palpable. Hope you can get out of the cult and reclaim your life.

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Anonymous #5 1d

No? Nothing to say?

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Anonymous #1 1d

I was at work. Sin is bad but intrinsic to earthly humanity, we are called to work towards being not of this world.

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Anonymous #5 1d

It should be said that I do not view any person of divergent identities or sexualities as delusional, selfish, or bad. An individual does not choose such things.

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Anonymous #6 1d

Though we may have some different perspectives, I appreciate your kindness, truly. I hope my words have not come across as hateful or dismissive.

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Anonymous #5 1d

Okay, so when the bible says that acting the way you were born, that you cannot control, is a bad thing. Explain why it’s good to call someone inherent traits and them acting on their non harmful behaviors as an immoral act.

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Anonymous #5 22h

They’re not “divergent” because being cishet is not the default, it’s simply one of myriad ways to exist.

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