i am a white south african student in the us. you are partly wrong. there is no genocide happening. but white people are definitely being killed and mistreated there more than normal. a man from my town was blinded and left alive and the last thing he saw before the africans took his eyes out was his wife and daughter being raped and killed after his son was shot. you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Please do a bit of research before posting misinformation on the internet 👍 An organization called the Economic Freedom Fighters in South Africa have been calling for the death of all whites and encouraging acts of violence against them, which is all easily confirmed by a quick google search across multiple websites 👍
There certainly isn’t a genocide ongoing but there is targeted violence against White groups. White people in South Africa still own a majority of the non-industrial capital in the country, and wealth inequality remains a major issue there. This inevitably results in the White population being envied and eventually targeted for being seen as privileged, *but they actually are.* The current civil affair of South Africa most greatly resembles the Tutsi-Herero dynamic of Pre-Genocide Rwanda-
Oh yea so the 4th most popular party in south Africa saying they need to not be afraid to kill white farmers, and singing songs about killing them, “expropriate land without compensation” yeah none of that means genocide. You also don’t have to be a victim of genocide to claim refugee status, but they are being targeted for murder…
video evidence of south african leaders encouraging violent racism against white people is "falling for the bullshit." oh and btw trump is literally hitler. but you’re one of those anti racist types right? got it. you people are so r x t x r d x d it genuinely makes me wonder if you’re just a bunch of bots lmao
when they chant “kill the boer” what do you think that means? it may not mean genocide then, but they have no problem killing us. if i shout “kill the jew” or “kill the black” it is bad but not this one? i never want to go back to south africa and i am very happy i will never have to. my home is an AIDS ridden, violence ridden, horrible place to live
Even Elon Musk’s ai Grok, that HE helped created, states there’s not factual basis to claim a genocide is occurring in South Africa. But what is true are a bunch of white people are terrified after the people they subjugated for years finally got their land and power back after Apartheid nearly destroyed their culture and people.
i love how AI is unreliable unless it supports what the person critiquing it wants and let me fix: black people who don’t live under apartheid are killing white people who don’t live under apartheid in violent, brutal, dehumanizing ways in an attempt to scare the white population into submission or worse. i don’t need to tell you what worse means
yes. apartheid ended in 1990. that was 35 years ago. whites have not held any real power in government. the ANC is not focused on rebuilding, like nelson mandela wanted, they are focused on revenge. and anyone born after 1990 who died did NOTHING to contribute to apartheid obviously apartheid was horrific but mass killings in response over the course of 35 years are not okay either and you seem to think they the
just because you do not like the source doesn’t mean it isn’t real. watch the documentary. listen to THE BLACK PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE DOCUMENTARY. you need to educate yourself on what is really happening and it’s really ironic you’re calling me a racist when you’re claiming white people aren’t facing persecution in modern south africa
Again THERES NO MASS KILLINGS cause there ISNT A GENOCIDE. They aren’t even disproportionately being killed bud 💀 just because a couple white people got murdered don’t mean you can claim a genocide. It’s so fucking disrespectful to actual marginalized groups who are ACTUALLY facing oppression.
and we ARE facing oppression. you can say “oh the farmland belongs to the black south africans”. did you know that that WASN’T farmland before white south africans developed it? so we developed all the land, farmed it for centuries and get it ripped away from us. is that not oppressive land policy? targeted towards one specific group? sure sounds like it is to me
I can hardly blame black South Africans for resisting their oppressors when they were being subjugated and criminalized on their own lands. If you’re asking me to condemn them for that, then I won’t. If you place people in apartheid, and they resist, you’re the one at fault. Not them.
this isn’t the gotcha that you think this is. i don’t even know what this point about the phrase existing before apartheid ending is even supposed to prove? it just means that when they keep singing it, they don’t care about reconciliation and just want revenge. you actually strengthen MY point
White South Africans make up 7.3 percent of the population yet own 73% of the privately owned land. Does that not bother you? In a country that was once ruled by apartheid? In a country that was not theirs to begin with? That white S.A. make almost 4x the amount of money on average? And you expect me to think that black peoples are still not oppressed?
thank you for completely ignoring the fact that this is a class issue. 7.3 million people don’t own 73% of the land. it’s more like less than 500,000. which is CLEARLY a class issue. i don’t know why you are treating us white south africans like a monolith. we aren’t a collective hive mind dude 😭 we’re human beings
Yes, by Lauren Southern, noted anti-immigrant and xenophobe, as well as someone who has been described as far-right/alt-right and has also pushed the white genocide/Great Replacement conspiracy theory, suggesting non-white people will take over and replace white people as a majority.
4.5 not 7.3 my mistake. but that brings my total of 500,000 down to about 200,000 people that own land. making it even more of a class issue. apartheid has been over for 35 years. africans have had 35 years to close the gap in ways that don’t involve targeted seizing of property by the government. when you are more focused on and revenge and not rebuilding you are going to stay poor. look at what happens to zimbabwe after they took all the land from whites
shhh stay quiet white person. let other cultures have the spotlight and give up your privilege💅🏻 this country is ridiculous in how much they minimize white people for “fairness”. INJUSTICE IS INJUSTICE. People can face hardship no matter their background and bad things can happen to all races!
when did i ever blame the black africans? i didn’t say they should have fixed it all in 35 years. but they haven’t. because the wealth gap still exists. if they really career they would target the rich instead of inciting racial violence between blacks and whites. in those 35 years they have only focused on revenge. if they targeted the rich instead of the common white south african we wouldn’t even be having this discussion because news flash, the average white south african hates the rich too!
correct when one white person dies it’s not a genocide. but when one white person is brutally killed after the other after the other after the other (like in brutal ways, i told you about the man who last witnessed his family being raped and murdered before being blinded,) red flags are going to rise. you cannot be this dense
Literally every issue you bring up always comes back to the white colonizers that took over the land. I’m bored of this back and forth with you. You can’t acknowledge that white South Africans are the problem and their little lie that they’re facing a genocide is so unbelievable that even an AI system created by a billionaire white South African denies it. ✌️
okay let me connect the dots. Lauren Southern doesn’t like migrants. She is a racist and doesn’t like non-white migrants or Muslims. She promotes a racist conspiracy theory charging them with “replacing whites and becoming the majority” to promote anti-immigration ideas and racism to “preserve the white majority.” She worked with and allied herself with groups and “people” that worked against migration efforts. She is the last person I would trust on anything relating to race.
“this biased search engine that spat out an answer via AI that required me to do no actual research told me this event with at the very least circumstantial evidence is not happening” and we’ve already established there isn’t a genocide. there are warning signs consistent with a FUTURE genocide (the EFF being in government and having “kill the boer” as basically their slogan) you are intentionally arguing in bad faith
But they aren’t being sent to their country. Trump has ignored due process and directly ignored orders from the Supreme Court to bring an American citizen back from El Salvador. I don’t think people should come here illegally. But they also don’t deserve to be shoved in cages (look at pictures of ICE detention centres) and shipped off to a prison that we KNOW don’t have space for them and is known to have people ‘disappear’. Also, WHERE ARE THE WOMEN GOING!? Nobody knows. It’s terrifying.
While you’re enjoying the purple Kool-Aid, being undocumented is not a criminal offense in the United States, but a civil offense. They are not just selectively deporting actual criminals, but anyone who is found guilty of a civil offense and even revoking citizenships of documented immigrants who hold beliefs this administration abhors. They’re also not even sending people to their own countries but literally sending them to a prison in El Salvador. Come on now…
The punishment doesn’t fit the crime. You overstayed your visa and now for are sent to a high security prison in a strange country for an unknown amount of time? With no due process and with no one notifying your family? That’s not acceptable. And to add icing to the cake, Trump is going after immigrants who are here legally as well
No the constitution applies to Americans “undocumented people” are known better as illegal aliens, foreigners who broke into our country. The due process is checking to see if they are here illegally (which is so easy to prove wrong if you are a citizen, you can prove you are here legally/born here in like 5 seconds), once that’s done ur gone pal.
the fact of the matter, “chile”, is that much of that much of the land in south africa was either underdeveloped or not developed at all when the boers arrived in the 1600s. the boers developed the land and converted it into cultivatable farmland on their own, with no assistance from the british or black south africans. we didn’t steal farmland, we turned empty land into something useful on our own. and i’m guessing you’re black based off the AAVE, no? if you don’t like it here, you can leave
This is literally how legal precedents are set… are you fucking stupid? We have desegregation and other advancements in civil rights because of the 1954 court case of Brown vs Board of Education, which ruled that the prior Plessy v Ferguson “separate but equal” was actually not equal and violated the 14th amendment. Did you actually pay attention in your government/civics class on how legal precedents work?
“But mom, they did it too!” Yes, and it is still condemnable; the difference is that neither are currently in power and have no influence over this administration’s immigration policy. I also never praised or gave any support for either of these presidents in their immigration stances/policy — you’re strawmanning here. It was not okay then, and they deserve the same criticism, but it should not detract from criticism of how this current administration is handling immigration and deportation.
you’re mad i pulled up a legal precedent???? i didn’t HAVE to pull the case from then, that’s just when we established that illegal immigrants have some of the same constitutional rights once they’re in the country. that’s been a legal precedent for 122 years. also as #8 said, clinton and obama aren’t in office currently & most of us weren’t on yikyak during the obama administration let alone during the clinton administration ?????