I agree with you. Also the whole idea of justifying something because it’s “my truth” is toxic. A lot of people who have these victim mindsets are narcissists. Feel whatever you want, but if your feelings are affecting my life in a negative way then I don’t owe you anything and I’m not giving you sympathy.
Its less about the concrete definition of validate and more about what the OP means in this context, which seems to be being accepting of and valuing someone’s feelings. Thats how im interpreting it. And in that case yeah, all feelings have value because they’re arising from somewhere and can point to reasons for behavior
I think #2 is saying they can’t literally be invalidated like the feelings they feel are what they feel opinions can’t change that maybe just worsen at most, but feeling said feelings doesn’t excuse the behaviors that follow from poorly processing. Serial killers also are known for lack of feeling.. so not the best example. More like a man with rage besting his wife, can’t say he isn’t angry but can say he shouldn’t allow his anger to manifest into physical violence.
So you’re saying we should recognize when someone is angry? People already do that so why bring it up and still misuse validate. Seems like a point was trying to be made besides just recognizing if someone is angry or not. Serial killers don’t lack feeling by any means. I’m not talking about Hollywood serial killers.
Source, trust me bro. Tell these things to my dad who even though he had a good support system let his anger build and abused me. We don’t need to validate the feelings of others. Some feelings don’t deserve validation but gentle correction or strong correction. If you wanted to hurt someone I wouldn’t say, no worries bro I got you, your feelings are valid. No, I’d say, I’m gonna get you some help, and immediately call the police if the situation calls for it.
Bro as you said, this is yikyak, there’s no need to die on this hill, and this is literally an opinion based app. You’re the only one anyone’s disagreeing with under this post meant to spark thought and conversation it’s literally all opinions and you’re driving yourself up a wall for what 😭
I had a friend who would verbally abuse anyone in her vicinity the minute she had an outburst and when someone would try to tell her how her words were hurtful, she would bring up the fact that her mom abused her as a child and that she had BPD and the conversation would result in her being coddled and the cycle would continue again. Suggesting psychiatric help was offensive to her and “none of our business” yet she would make her issues our problem when it worked for her.
You can still validate someone and correct them at the same time…. Like your dad was valid for being angry, but he shouldn’t have allowed his anger to build up and abuse you because of it. People are allowed to feel irrationally because emotions are often irrational, but that doesn’t mean we are excusing their actions. I could slap someone because they angered me; while my anger was valid, my action was not and I should apologize. Validation does not equal escape