
We have a mental health epidemic going on, guns are not the problem. Unfortunately they are the tool being used for these atrocities. I fully support finding some way to make our society safer, getting rid of guns or harsher laws only hurt the law abiding citizens. The single mom down the street, your dad, the elderly man living alone, will be the ones to suffer. Criminals will get guns no matter what, if we take guns away then the gov can do what they want to. There is levels to this shit it’s
How do you people even function with such stunted reasoning ability. Obviously people have to pull the trigger but it’s been proven in countless other countries that when you remove insane guns that no one needs to own, like high capacity assault rifles, far far fewer mass shootings occur. Thats why you only ever hear about mass shootings and especially school shootings in the US, yet you guys are so braindead you can’t see the problem when it’s staring you in the face. How many kids have to die
No AR is going to help you against the government’s stealth bomber’s, destroyer ships, drone warfare or actual missiles and nukes. If it ever came to be the government vs the people, thats not a fight we’d win despite all the guns and ammo in the world. Im all for personal defense weapons like pistols and small shotguns, but beyond that, conservatives have killed every attempt to make gun ownership safer for everyone
It’s not about making guns illegal, it’s about making guns safer. Citizens have the right to bear arms but conservatives have killed every attempt to do so. Academic studies and data analyses consistently show that when adjusted for population, states with more permissive gun laws (including open carry laws) have higher rates of gun violence, including mass shootings, compared to states with stricter gun laws.
This has to be a joke, right? There have been more mass shootings in 2025 than there have been days. I totally get that it doesnt affect you and me, but every single day it directly affects hundreds of americans, many more if you dont lack empathy. And this is not even taking into account other forms of gun violence
Absolutely i have! Ive also heard of Louisiana and Mississippi, both of which are open carry states which despite having more guns and less people have more shootings per million residents. You can sit here and cherry pick states where gun control has failed, but the facts point towards more shootings in places with less-strict gun laws
You would never apply that line of thinking to literally anything else. Check your own biases. Drunk driving laws dont blame the car, but we still regulate the conditions under which people can drive. Drug overdoses are caused by people but we still regulate people’s access to medicine and drugs. Lung cancer caused by smoking is completely self-inflicted but we still regulate tobacco and vaping products. Guns dont have to be the issue for us to develop laws to curve the issues they cause.
Listen to all of the layers of delusion you have to live under just to justify owning a gun. If the largest and strongest military in the world (stronger than the next 2 COMBINED) ever went against it’s own people, there is no military in the world that would or could step in to rescue anyone. We didnt see that for the people in gaza getting killed by the 10s of thousands and we didnt see that for the 3 cities the National Guard has been deployed to so far
People do kill people but guns make it a whole hell of a lot easier. I was in the military, I own a gun and it’s for self defense, so I understand the reasoning here. I used to debate this topic with your exact same arguments. But we can’t keep allowing so much innocent loss of life. It’s like if brass knuckles were responsible for mass murders. Are you gonna tell people that brass knuckles don’t kill people, people kill people?
not everything is about military. makes sense that you would think violence is the answer to all your problems... america is not self-sustaining at all and relies on other countries for resources. other countries wont want half of their consumers to be dead.. thus placing more pressure on their governments to take action. we do not rely on gaza to give us materials and resources, and the domestic issues in the us are more important than foreign affairs
#5's point is based on statistics of identified mental illness, emphasis on identified. there was little to no formally identified mental illness in history but plenty of domestic crime. you could make a case for increased mental illness if you had a study with non-confounding factors. l'd genuinely like to see one.
the middle east isnt a big consumer of other countries' goods because those countries are relatively poorer. the us mainly imports goods, and they import a whole hell of a lot more than other countries. for example, we rely so much on china its insane. when covid happened and the world essentially shut down, there were so many shortages in the us because we literally dont produce anything of our own.
People kill people, but having guns so easy to access does make the problem worse. It’s like handing an arsonist gasoline and matches, and then saying it wasn’t your fault for supplying them the means to start a fire. Yes, they would find a way regardless. But you’re sure making it a lot easier, you know?
Vehicles arent the issue and we still have road and vehicle safety laws. Drugs are not the issue and we still outlaw some of them and heavily regulate the rest. Tobacco and alcohol arent the issue and yet we have federal regulations on them. “Guns dont shoot themselves” no shit, sherlock. The level of access people have to any weapon of their choosing coupled with a bunch of self-important idiots who are standing on the way of meaningful change, those are the issues.
Guns aren’t the issue, the minimal regulation of who can get them is the issue, there is almost no regulation basically it’s age regulated and if you’re a felon you “cant” get one that’s literally it. There needs to be regulation, no one is saying take them away as that is unconstitutional, what we’re saying is they need to be regulated because literally just about anyone can get one and THAT is the problem. My ex is a drug user, he can get a gun and has tried (the only thing that stopped him-
im not against more gun laws/restrictions, so i see what you mean. at the same time, its easy to get a license/car, people in high school do it all the time! more people die in vehicular-related deaths than gun-related deaths, so should we start restricting car use? because that would certainly prove an issue for a majority of americans since they rely on their car for everything. in my opinion, instead of restricting access to guns, gun-related crimes should be more punishable
you will not be able to ban guns as its in the constitution. either way, ban guns all you want and people will find a way to kill people anyway. gun-related deaths aren't necessarily high considering the majority is suicide-based. so yeah, unfortunately murder is sad, but it will still happen. we've seen that in other countries who have banned guns altogether
But did Craig and Susan hurt anyone with their guns? Why does someone else’s actions have to restrict their desire to collect a niche item just like many other people? If Craig and Susan have done nothing wrong, do not punish them for another group’s actions. That’s the same illogical premises racism. “Their kind do this so let’s restrict them all”. There is a better middle ground. Switzerland is one of the most well armed countries and they have few issues compared to America.
Yes because ars existed when the second amendment was written, right. (News flash, that’s not at all what that means, the second amendment does not give you that right explicitly, the Supreme Court did which needs to be thought through again because there is absolutely no reason to own an ar)
If YoU dOnT lIkE iT mOvE eLsEwHeRe, could use the same logic for you buddy. Don’t feel safe and feel that you HAVE to have an ar to defend yourself? Move somewhere else because clearly your neighborhood isn’t a good one. You can find that efficiency in ANY other gun you do NOT need an assault rifle for that. You do not need a semi automatic gun for that. You do not need a sniper for that. You do not need any of those for that. You will be fine. Also the second amendment is not unlimited and can-
Be restricted, meaning they can take ars right out of the mix and say that it isn’t constitutional. Let’s say they made it so all you could get was a handgun, buddy over here breakin into your house that you’re so worried about wouldn’t have anything more powerful than that, therefore making another handgun far more efficient. But again if you’re that worried that your house is going to be broken into that you think you NEED an ar to defend yourself you should probably move right? According to-
You’re completely missing the point. I live in a great and safe area, unfortunately a lot of crazies live in America no matter where. I’m not going to take chances just because I was lazy and don’t get a gun, that’s just stupid. You must be unaware, but criminals don’t care about the law, and will go to any house they please to carry out what they will, which very well could be you or me. The difference is, it sounds like you’ll bend over for them and I certainly won’t be doing that