Anonymous #2 3w

I agree. I want to mention before anyone tries this in my comments that no I am not pro Israel. Now that that’s out of the way, I noticed a lot of people using antisemitism bc of this and it’s odd that they don’t see the issue. Yes not supporting someone committing atrocities isn’t bigotry but using stereotypes, treating all Jewish people like they support it or are part of it, and running with the “Jewish people run the world” bs is still antisemitism and idk if that’s what you were talk

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Anonymous OP 3w

talking about but it pisses me off so much bc it’s like, they not too long ago went through stuff with Germany, yes this is just as bad but let’s not start supporting nazis bc of it

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Anonymous OP 3w

I agree with part of what you’re saying and disagree with part of what you’re saying. You’re right that the “Jews control the world” and traditionally far-right or Neo-Nazi tropes are antisemitic and wrong, but there are also examples of antisemitism that are unfortunately more socially acceptable today that are wrong, such as opposition to the right of Jews to self determine as a people or calling them fake Jews/european fill-in-the-blank when 80 years ago they were genocided for not being Euro

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Anonymous OP 3w

So specifically when you say “yes this is just as bad” regarding Nazi Germany and Israel it conveys an astounding level of ignorance - your heart is in the right place, but trivializing or weaponizing the Holocaust is incredibly harmful to the Jewish community

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Anonymous #2 3w

Honestly I didn’t mention those last ones bc I didn’t know they were a thing 😭 also I know it’s based out of bigotry so it doesn’t make sense but how is a Jewish person a fake Jewish person…like that right there doesn’t make sense. Also just a question, when you say self determinate wdym? Like a nation state or a community thing?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Well I’m not trying to trivialize it I’m saying that it’s still a genocide

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Anonymous OP 3w

Saying it’s just as bad as the Holocaust is a trivialization of the Holocaust and a pretty grossly offensive misrepresentation of the situation. In terms of the “fake Jew” thing, it’s rhetoric like the one Kanye has been using, like the Black Hebrew Israelite stuff (they shout on campus sometimes). In terms of self determination, under the UN Charter it’s defined as sovereignty in the ability to govern yourself, defend yourself, etc. so in modern conventio that would translate to a nation state

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Anonymous #2 3w

I do want to point out that I do agree with you on the trivialization thing, I’m just saying it the way I am bc I don’t have the patience to argue with other people here about it. But overall I do agree bc I’m African American and slavery…take that how you will. They shout that on your campus?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Both can be true at once. There are literally African Americans dismissing other African Americans' experiences. Which is why I'm sure the original commenter said “people” and not a particular group. It's a mindset, or selective empathy, that people sadly often have.

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Anonymous #2 3w

You should definitely create your own post and discuss more about antisemitism

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Anonymous #3 3w

Oh that’s definitely part of why I said that😭 but like I told 2 I don’t have the patience to argue with butt hurt people who feel called out about being racist so it’s easier to just not list a group

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Anonymous OP 3w

I had a feeling 😭😭

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well people like you also downplay the effects of terrible afflictions against Jews and Israelis like 10/7. A survivor recently set himself on fire because he couldn’t take the pain anymore. People like you who downplay atrocities committed against Jews (and Israelis as well because not all of them are Jews) are the problem, and comes from an anti-Semitic double-standard against Jews ie when one community does something it’s whatever and swept under the rug, but when it’s the Jews…

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Anonymous #2 3w

you guys literally say people not being pro-israel is antisemitism, sorry if i dont wanna hear it

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Anonymous #4 3w

So stop with that people like you bs. I literally said I know the difference and I have experienced people saying the same thing. If you read all the comments I literally said I agreed and just didn’t feel like having weirdos in my comments like 5 who I just blocked from the convo. Don’t come in these comments with that bs knowing damn well you aren’t the only group who experiences downplaying of major issues

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Anonymous #5 3w

We do not say that, but focusing on Israel and criticizing them unfairly is. The UN never passes a resolution against China on its treatment of the Uyghurs or its various human rights violations. Neither did they to many other autocratic nations who actively participate in humans right violations. Yet Israel (the only Jewish state) is the bad guy?

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah just had to block 4 guys bc we’re not about to play “they’re only criticizing Israel bc they’re Jewish” in these fucking comments. Your race/ethnicity doesn’t give you a pass to commit genocide. Yes the UN should focus on all of them but frankly the reason Israel is getting more criticism is bc the public across nations can actually see it. They can’t see the other issues and sadly that’s how that works, the more attention your issue gets the more likely people are to resolve it

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Anonymous #5 3w

no we don’t. I’m against the Israeli government and the atrocities they’re committing I’m just tired of people wishing death on my family members (who live in Israel) and calling me a Zionist baby killer for existing.

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Anonymous #7 3w

Hey, I agree I’d just say ignore 5. I blocked them after the first comment. Not entirely sure how everyone else can see them still but after seeing that I knew the type of person they were and tried to get rid of them. They’re not going to change so for your own mental id say block them

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Anonymous #9 3w

Do you have an example? This isn’t me questioning you btw I’m just curious about what you mean 😭

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Anonymous #6 3w

Not really ... I feel like if anything it's just discrimination but I feel like racism is not what youd call that

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Anonymous OP 3w

can i ask you why it’s antisemitic for me to think that they run the world? i’m asking you to come into this with an open mind

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Anonymous #11 3w

Sure. Granted I’m not Jewish so someone who is would have a better answer. But it mostly comes from the fact that in European history Jewish people were constantly discriminated against and one of the stereotypes that came from it was that they run the world and it was used as a “valid” reason to push them away from society. It was also one of the pieces of propaganda Hitler used to convince Germans that it was okay harm and carry out the holocaust. Also bc when the stereotype came around it jus

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Anonymous OP 3w

it just wasn’t true. It’s not possible for them to rule the world while also being consistently exiled and discriminated against

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Anonymous #12 3w

It’s gotten better sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect and that we don’t still have more work to do

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Anonymous #7 3w

No country ever will ever be 100% not racist and perfect

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Anonymous #11 3w

Because that’s a harmful stereotype that’s been used many times throughout history as justification for the exclusion and murder of Jewish people

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Anonymous OP 3w

That’s fair. It just pmo when I see people minimizing antisemitism sorry

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Anonymous #13 3w

I agree. While I do think some of the racism in other countries is kinda just like American racism of “I hate this race just because *insert stereotype*” I do notice that at least countries that are in similar areas typically are conflict based but I wonder if that’s more xenophobia than racism? Could be both

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yes, but most Americans can’t tell the difference between someone from Ethiopia vs Kenya for example. People make blanket assumptions that come from the system. The rest of the world does not have the same level of systemic problems, people make judgements based on ethnicity (what country/ region you are from). America is still inside its bubble fighting its own system that was created by the same kind of people who claim it doesn’t exist

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Anonymous #7 3w

if you and your friend go to 109 bars and you get kicked out of each bar because of your friend; is it the bars fault or his fault? also can you tell me who the current ceo of black rock is and the founder of the rothschild is as well?

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Anonymous #10 3w

I mean isn’t racism just discrimination based on race? I think it’s def possible to be racist against white people, it just isn’t a problem in society because it doesn’t typically result in real-world harm the way that racism against POC actually does

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Anonymous #12 3w

I’d say it’s better in the sense that less is happening. Bc there have still been reports of lynchings just a couple weeks ago. I’d also say it more or less racism changing. It’s not legal to discriminate but that doesn’t mean much when courts, police, and the Supreme Court don’t care

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Anonymous OP 3w

okay so let me ask you this then. if tried to go to 109 different countries and got kicked out of each one. is there not some sort of relation to that? should we not look at why do they keep getting kicked out? if it was maybe 2 or 3 i’d say sure you’re right but no ethnic group can try to assimilate into 109 different countries; get kicked out of each and play victim right? also there isn’t a single signature of Hitler calling the mass murder of jews. not even in his speeches

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Anonymous OP 3w

meant to say “if the jews tried to go to 109 different countries”

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Anonymous #11 3w

So whether he says it or not doesn’t change the fact that he did it. Also no bc frankly how many countries that have committed genocide, enslaved, and harmed different groups of people and still haven’t been excluded from other places? Also do you think that this stemmed from something logical? Bc black people even today are looked down on in most countries but does that mean we somehow did something to deserve that?

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Anonymous OP 3w

I just think a lot of times white people like to be “saviors” and speak on behalf of black people about what’s racist and what’s not, even if black people themselves don’t find something offensive

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Anonymous #9 3w

For instance, white people saying Aunt Jemima syrup was racist and applauding its rebrand while many black people (not all) see the rebrand as an erasure of black history

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Anonymous #9 3w

So as someone who is black I actually saw a lot of people appreciating it. Online and in real life. While it wouldn’t have matter whether the company decided to change it or not a lot of people I saw liked the change bc it was resemblance of negative things and frankly (this part is my opinion) I see no need to keep around negative pieces of black history that don’t serve to teach people

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Anonymous #6 3w

Obviously any group of people can be racist, and idk why many people act as if minorities can’t be racist. Systemic racism is a whole different thing that obviously impacts minorities more than anyone else

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Anonymous OP 3w

They might not care but the law cares

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Anonymous #12 3w

I agree that the law cares but the reason I mentioned those groups is bc it doesn’t matter if the law cares if the people who’re supposed to enforce it don’t

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Anonymous #7 3w

Don’t apologize I get it. I’m honestly just doing a blocking spree bc I tried to let people have their learning moments in the comments but I’m not tolerating the subtle racism and antisemitism that’s starting to happen now

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Anonymous OP 3w

So the judges are racist or something?

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Anonymous OP 3w

OP, you’re a great guy, but you were a lot quicker to kick the person who was pro-Israel than the person very blatantly defending Hitler

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Anonymous #15 3w

I’m a girl 😭 also are you still able to see them? I’m not too sure how blocking works when it’s the op making them. Also I can’t lie I’ve been avoiding this post bc I was tired of seeing so many people say that stuff. Once I noticed the hitler thing I did block them. I can’t lie I left the initial comment about the stereotype up bc I thought maybe they actually wanted to learn but then after the next couple I didn’t feel comfortable leaving them up

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Anonymous #12 3w

There are racist judges. There’s no profession where there isn’t a possibility for that to be a thing

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Anonymous OP 3w

You know who they are? Cuz that’s a serious accusation that someone that upholds the law has a bias towards a certain group or race

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Anonymous #12 3w

There’s literally multiple cases of there being racial bias in court rooms. It’s not uncommon for poc, especially black people to get higher sentences for something a white person gets a lower sentence for.

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Anonymous #12 3w

Be fuckin for real. You genuinely think there are no racist judges in the U.S. After you just said the world isn't going to be 100% not racist💀

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Anonymous #9 3w

Would definitely like to hear an example of what you think racism is.

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Anonymous #6 3w

yes! however, white peoples are not systematically discriminated against in America; the systems heavily favor them. you can still be interpersonally racist to a white person, which is problematic but contained to one person rather than the entire country.

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Anonymous #12 3w

segregationists in the 1940s when they’re asking why they gotta do more when slavery was already over be like:

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Anonymous OP 3w

Just like that black guy that stabbed the white girl on the tram?? The one that got released 14 times??

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