Anonymous #2 20w

Yall are so historically illiterate 🫩

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 20w

Uh oh pulling out the “y’all”, can’t wait for your blanket statement. Tell me then, why should we have race-based districts?

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Anonymous #2 20w

Black voting districts (mostly in the South)are tied to the history of voter suppression and the enforcement of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. They are drawn so Black voters have a fair chance to elect candidates we support. If Black votes are restricted we won’t make up enough voters in any one district to elect representatives we want.

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Anonymous #2 20w

Section 2 of the law has been used in court to state that if a minority group is large and geographically concentrated enough, district maps should not unfairly prevent us from electing representatives.

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Anonymous #2 20w

They’re being used to correct hundreds of years of wrongs done to my community 🫩

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Anonymous #2 20w

And Y’all as in u and #1 over there lmao. Bro still has yet to address the suppression on the black vote and conservatives getting rid of the voting rights act of 1965

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Are u gonna actually argue against it? Or are u just gonna do what conservatives usually do and call equity and equality oppression

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Anonymous #4 20w

Yes. Yes I have an issue with MAGA redrawing the maps to suppress the black vote. It directly impacts me

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Anonymous #2 20w

if you don’t have voting districts where the minority is the majority, then they have no opportunity to gain representation in Congress, which is exactly what the Republicans want

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Anonymous #4 20w

Representation in elections/referendums should not be on the basis of race but on political demographic. Black voters will be represented because they will be able to vote for the representatives of their respective alignments.

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Anonymous #2 20w

yes, but that’s not what’s occurring in Louisiana, they’re effectively diluting Democrat, minority voters by using a majority Republican rural white population in the voting districts, it’s purposefully attempting to ensure they don’t have their fair representation

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Anonymous #4 20w

You’re assuming they all vote Democrat, which they don’t. In that district it’s made one race majority over another on purpose. Again, color does not matter. You vote Democrat, republican, independent, or other regardless of skin color.

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Anonymous #2 20w

To say race doesn’t matter and to call it “color” LMFAO The idea that race doesn’t matter in the U.S. is as silly as saying gender and sexual orientation don’t either

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Anonymous #4 20w

We’re talking about political representation in state districts, remember?

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Anonymous #2 20w

Yes, race matters in political representation

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Anonymous #4 20w

Agree to disagree. Different opinion though

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Anonymous #2 20w

Black voters generally vote for democrats. This is why republicans are attempting to disenfranchise them. In these states, Republican political policy is motivated by racism. If black voters are able to elect someone from within their community, that candidate will usually not align with Republican ideology and policy. This is why these states want to cut up black districts, so they are unable to elect someone who represents their values.

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Anonymous #2 20w

if Republicans say Somalians aren’t welcome in America and that Obama is a monkey, you don’t race matters?

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Anonymous #4 20w

That’s not related to political districts on the basis of race.

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Anonymous #2 20w

I don’t think districts should be based only on race, but race has to be considered so that their voting power isn’t deliberately diluted by the racial majority Ignoring race entirely lets the racial majority (white people) manipulate district lines and silence minority voters

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Anonymous #5 20w

Your version of “someone who represents their values” is just someone with the same skin color. Again, a Democrat will have a Democrat who represents at least some of their values, and so on. The “black values” is created when they are separated. You can’t share values if you are separate, and especially not if we frame people as enemies of each other. Districts should be drawn in blue or red, not black or white.

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Anonymous #4 20w

Races are not monoliths. If a white boy grew up in Harlem, unless he were rejected, he would still be a Harlem boy.

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Anonymous #2 20w

What do you even think this is supposed to mean, this is incomprehensible.

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Anonymous #2 20w

Idk what ur even trying to argue. All of these black districts are blue because the majority of us vote democrat. In the last election, Harris literally won the black vote. Trump barely got 10% of us to vote for him…

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Anonymous #5 20w

Your “they should be blue or red” thing doesn’t even make sense when the point of the gerrymandering is to make it so there’s no blue districts.

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Anonymous #2 20w

Yeah, I agree that race is not a monolith, and that’s why modern voting rights enforcement should look at communities of interest A community of interest standard would group your Harlem white boy with his Harlem neighbors, he shares the same school district, public transportation, utility grids, housing costs, and neighborhood history as the Black and Hispanic residents

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Anonymous #5 20w

Gerrymandering occurs from both sides, regardless of their particular contributions.

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Anonymous #2 20w

When someone drawing political districts who values communities of interest draws a district around a neighborhood like Harlem, the goal is to give that specific community of interest a unified political voice. The person wants this community of interest’s needs and views to not be silenced by district borders, regardless of the racial identities in that community.

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Anonymous #4 20w

Then we agree that community is not race-based.

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Anonymous #4 20w

The white kid in Harlem isn’t stuck there because of years of segregation, theft of land and wealth, and the destruction of prospering towns tho…

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Anonymous #2 20w

Not always, but to pretend race and community aren’t correlated in the country that has segregated neighborhoods is pure ignorance

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 20w

Never said he was

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Anonymous #4 20w

Those reasons I just listed are part of the contribution to having majority black voting districts. Ontop of years of unfair voting practices and threats made against those going vote. Men have been lynched by the KKK just for going vote. The KKK was a major part in black voting suppression and most of them worked in the government

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 20w

Never said any of that didn’t happen

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Anonymous #4 20w

My bad bro, thought I were 2🫩

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 20w

U**

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