Anonymous #1 14w

so, that makes u a hypocrite. they r both bad, or for some reason, both good. they r both in light of “liberation against our govt that is against us”

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Anonymous OP 14w

So you’re saying that all semi-violent protesting has the same pros and cons? I think what it’s protesting about matters a lot

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Anonymous #1 14w

it’s the same message that i j said. u might think ur the hero’s, and so does the other side

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Anonymous #2 14w

“liberation against our govt that is against us” we all think we r hero’s in our own story, sad we cant see reality

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Anonymous #3 14w

we all think we r hero’s, but reality doesn’t always agree. the media only tells u what they want to tell u

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Anonymous OP 14w

the only people who say stuff like this are trumps dick riders when they finally realize they're the idiots

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Anonymous #3 14w

uh oh! i’m not a trump supporter😨😨

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Anonymous OP 14w

uh oh! if you're putting jan 6 and LA on the same level you're just as bad as them?

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Anonymous #3 14w

look at the destruction in LA, look at the destruction of the capitol.

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Anonymous #4 14w

no, it’s pointing out hypocrisies from both sides. it’s calling out the bs from both sides and how they both play victim in their own stories

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Anonymous OP 14w

look at the purposes behind them: petty over losing an election u think was rigged vs. human rights you have to be actually stupid to not see this

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Anonymous OP 14w

I don’t really get how protesting illegal deportations and violations of human rights and due process is equivalent to an attempted insurrection on the literal capitol bc of the outcome of a legal election

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Anonymous #5 14w

uh oh! apples and oranges babes. both of these r a threat to our country. these protests will continue the divide and will drive for another republican control of govt for a long time. this is not how we fix things, it’s how we destroy it.

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Anonymous #4 14w

i don’t rly how u don’t understand the process

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Anonymous OP 14w

What process

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Anonymous OP 14w

uh oh! you can't go around saying everything is bad you gotta take a side. being neutral is taking the side of the oppressor and we all know who that is

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Anonymous #3 14w

y’all proving my point here. what exactly here is spam report worthy? oh wait. there isn’t one!

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Anonymous #4 14w

deportation process

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Anonymous #3 14w

the ones who r LITERALLY destroying america when she doesn’t go there way, 2020, and now. and guess how far both of those got us and how much closer it brought everyone. (hint: it did nothing, backtracked any progress we had and furthered the divide)

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Anonymous OP 14w

hmmm maybe we don't like bitches who spread hate

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Anonymous #3 14w

what hate is there?

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Anonymous #3 14w

like genuinely, tell me what exactly is hateful in it, give me the direct quote

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Anonymous OP 14w

guess what would've given us progress? kamala's election and trumps assassination being successful

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Anonymous #3 14w

ah yes, the ppl who love to fight for unity, and the likes, yet actively support murder of their enemies. seems awfully like a certain german political party. maybe u should clean the mirror before u keep taking into it

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Anonymous OP 14w

please tell me more about how we shouldn’t protest the people who rapidly centralized executive power and mobilized the military against peaceful protestors

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Anonymous OP 14w

I feel like there are very big problems with the way this administration wants to handle deportations considering the way abrego garica was basically kidnapped and wrongfully sent to an el salvador prison without due process, and that tons of courts demanded his return and the administration straight up refused. I think its completely valid and necessary to protest ICE and oppose this administration’s approach to deportation bc that is an insane violation of rights and is downright fascistic

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Anonymous OP 14w

isn't it common sense to want your oppressor gone?

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Anonymous #5 14w

PEACFULL?????? someone hasn’t been keeping with LA AT ALL😭😭😭😭 “both foreign and domestic” that’s what the military fights for. the national guard is trained for riot control. doesn’t mean they see u as an enemy, they r there to control the civil unrest

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Anonymous #3 14w

isn’t it common sense to not become the oppressor u swear to destroy?

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Anonymous OP 14w

baby wanting one person dead because they're evil is so different from hating everyone different from you

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Anonymous #4 14w

ur alrdy wrong. the courts did not demand they bring him back. they said facilitate, which means make easier. the US courts have 0 jurisdiction over other countries and what they do with their citizens in their homeland. again, ur making it out to be in the masses. and don’t forget, obama did this 10 fold

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Anonymous #3 14w

crazy u can’t see how ur becoming the thing u swear to destroy. doing what they do makes u no better. in fact, it makes u worse bc u see how it negatively affects ppl and then u do it unto others. y wouldn’t u want to hold them responsible for their crimes and see them suffer?

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Anonymous #6 14w

some of you fr can only think “im right and you’re wrong” instead of u both being right/wrong and it’s wild

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yes. Make easier…to bring him back…. You are splitting hairs for no reason. If these riots happened while obama was in office for the same reasons i’d support them just the same

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Anonymous #4 14w

that’s not a demand to bring him back. so if ur gonna say something, make it right.

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Anonymous OP 14w

sometimes there is a right and wrong. let’s look at an example: one person kills someone hate crimed their sibling, another kills someone because they want to steal their gucci bag. do you really think these people are morally equal just because they’re both killers?

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Anonymous OP 14w

Oh my god okay, the supreme court ordered that this administration *facilitate* his return. Clearly they wanted him returned

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Anonymous #4 14w

again, they have no jurisdiction over that, and r over reaching their authority. they can’t demand another country to do anything

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Anonymous #6 14w

yes. if u kill for a hate crime, ur j as bad. murder is not justifiable.

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Anonymous OP 14w

ok they’re both bad but one is obviously worse this is why i say you’re using no nuance bruh things can be bad in different ways and to different degrees and to say otherwise is just simple thinking

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Anonymous OP 14w

Sending a man to an el salvador prison without due process over a clerical error was overreaching!!! Are you fucking serious dude lol im convinced you’re just racist at this point and will do any mental gymnastics you can to defend trump and ICE

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Anonymous #4 14w

can’t be racist against my own ppl😨😨 and im an independent babes. i would never belong to either one of these parties. they r both corrupt and neither r for the ppl

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Anonymous OP 14w

Ew dude us mexicans disown you. Thats actually shameful

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Anonymous #6 14w

obvi there is different lvls to it, still doesn’t justify the result

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Anonymous #4 14w

uh oh! i legit don’t care. many many mexicans have the same view on this! y do u think so many shifted towards trump when it came to immigration. it undermines those who did it the right way and it affects the poor and poc more than anyone

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Anonymous OP 14w

ok so you can concede the two situations you mentioned are not the same? and one can be worse than the other?

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Anonymous #6 14w

they r each worse in their own way. overall they have the same result, a threat to our country and ppl

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Anonymous OP 14w

You are such a sell out to your own people oh my god you want to be white so bad. There is no justifiable reason to shift towards trump even if this one specific issue does undermine the legal channels for immigration, knowing his long racist history and everything he’s said about mexicans, and you’re still willingly defending him and ICE

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Anonymous OP 14w

ok in conceding that one can be worse than the other you concede it’s not necessarily hypocritical for someone to think one is bad and the other isn’t

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Anonymous OP 14w

do you think the charlottesville rally was just as bad as the LA protests too?

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Anonymous #6 14w

ur not understanding what i j said. i didnt concede my statement. one is worse in property and death, one is worse in a threat to our constitutional republic

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Anonymous #4 14w

my ppl r the same ones killing each other, having these gangs, and claiming superiority when they r such a 3rd world country rn. i dont want to be white. i want my ppl to get their shit together

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Anonymous OP 14w

Mexico is NOT a 3rd world country and im deadass questioning if you’re even telling the truth about being latino atp be so fucking for real

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Anonymous #4 14w

if u see the state of it, you’d agree. like with the US, it’s a third world country

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Anonymous OP 14w

you did concede because even if one can be worse in a different way that’s a concession. someone may value the sanctity of our democracy over property damage (and i haven’t heard of any deaths?) and therefore one worseness carries more weight for them. not hypocritical

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Anonymous OP 14w

Okay this has gone past the point of ridiculous and i honestly think you’re lying about being latino. Im going to bed

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Anonymous #6 14w

it’s looking at the overall of it so determine what’s worse and see the result. the both have the same result. division, hatred and damage

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Anonymous #4 14w

am i supposed to care if u believe me or not? or do u think all mexicans sound and think the same? sounds like a white man trying to disguise their racism through their “mexican heritage”

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Anonymous OP 14w

i think the reasons for doing it makes one clearly way worse. people fighting for a noble cause vs people being delusional and crazy about trump 😭

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Anonymous OP 14w

??? If anything you’ve shown internalized racism talking about “your people” as if all they do is kill each other in gangs, exactly how trump talks about them. You show ZERO solidarity. It doesn’t concern you that someone like abrego Garcia, an innocent man, can be whisked away and sent to an El Salvador prison for no good reason and no due process? You don’t give a fuck about your fellow latinos? You don’t care that it could be your family next, whether they’re legal or not?

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Anonymous #4 14w

if the govt lets it happen, it represents the ppl. that is the govt they elected. did j say i supported how the trump admin reacted to garcia? no. do i also believe he is innocent based on his past? also no

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Anonymous #6 14w

and they think the same about u, so again, we r all hero’s in our own story

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Anonymous #6 14w

and i’m still reallllly curious if you think the la protests are just as bad as the charlottesville rally

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Anonymous #6 14w

idk enough about the charlottesville rally to speak on it

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Anonymous OP 14w

it was a rally for white nationalism, neo-nazism, klansmen, and confederates that actually weren’t technically that violent overall but one protestor did die

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Anonymous OP 14w

so if hitler was the hero in his own story does that mean he’s cool now?

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Anonymous #6 14w

dawg what. being a hero in ur own story doesn’t mean reality see u as a hero

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Anonymous OP 14w

so then what was the point of saying everyone’s a hero in their own story 💀

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Anonymous #6 14w

bc it means we all think we r right in our own vision, but we aren’t. hitler thought he was right, but guess what, he wasnt

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Anonymous #6 14w

idk how ur not understanding this

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Anonymous OP 14w

You are absolutely supporting them by going to bat this hard for them saying he can pretty much get fucked and that the US has no obligation to return him. So just because this administration was elected, they can do whatever they want and we just have to accept it apparently. And what past? He has no criminal record and has lived here for like 13 years working construction and supporting his family

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Anonymous OP 14w

babygirl that isn’t a point you’re just rewording what you said

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Anonymous #6 14w

and ur not understanding that very basic statement somehow

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Anonymous OP 14w

honey. stay with me now. i’m not asking about the statement i’m asking how it connects to your overall argument here

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Anonymous #4 14w

weird bc immigration officials have alrdy deemed him of ms13 and suspected of human trafficking. i have said he should be brought back so the proper process could be done. but im not mad bc ik he’s guilty

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Anonymous #6 14w

how j bc u think ur fighting for a ‘moral good’ doesn’t mean it is one

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yeah i just read those documents and that is a huge reach. The basis for human trafficking is that he got pulled over for speeding and there were lots of other people in the car without luggage. Thats it. It wasn’t even enough probable cause to detain him, they just thought it was suspicious, probably bc hes latino. And the MS13 allegations come from him being caught wearing a chicago bulls hat, which has historically, in some places, been associated with MS13 because of the horns

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Anonymous OP 14w

Obviously trump’s immigration officials are going to paint him in the worst light possible so they can cover their ass and make their fuck up not look so bad. But theres no actual, real evidence or court record tying him to MS13 at all, its all circumstantial and hearsay. That shouldn’t be enough to illegally deport him with no due process

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Anonymous #4 14w

ms13 can only hang around ms13, he was verifiably with them

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Anonymous OP 14w

but you agreed that there IS a moral good so some people are wrong meaning the fact that everyone thinks they’re doing the right thing doesn’t mean shit because regardless of whether they think they’re doing the right thing or not there IS a right and wrong so this whole line of conversation is useless

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Anonymous OP 14w

everyone THINKS they’re right but some ARE right

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Anonymous OP 14w

That is not good enough evidence to uproot someone’s life after 13 years of being a tax paying citizen with no criminal record. Thats not how due process works and its clear you’ll say anything to lick trump and ICE’s boots and put down other latinos so whatever dude this is such a waste of my time and im mad ive even let this take my sleep

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Anonymous #6 14w

and neither r is my whole point omf

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Anonymous #4 14w

u also missed the point where i said i said he should be brought back. it was clearly a flawed execution and im upset that it was allowed to happen. but im not upset that it happen to him bc ik hes guilty

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Anonymous #4 14w

ur literally getting mad for no reason dawg. i’m straight chillin bc im in reality

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Anonymous OP 14w

so then why did you bring it up in the first place?

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Anonymous #6 14w

bring up the whole point of my post??

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Anonymous OP 14w

and i’m still tryna know if you think the la protests are just as bad as the white nationalism rally in charlottesville

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Anonymous OP 14w

wait wait wait so YOU think neither are right but what if I think the LA protests are fighting for something that i agree with then it’s not hypocritical at all 😭

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Anonymous #6 14w

i AGAIN, don’t know enough to speak on it. i’m not gonna take some info from some stranger on the internet that spoke on it in 4 lines. that’s not enough info to come to an informed opinion on such matter. how easy do u think i am? doesn’t matter if ur right or not, ppl shouldn’t be relying on others for info, thats y americans r so stupid

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Anonymous #6 14w

ur a hero in ur own story then. reality may not agree with u

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Anonymous OP 14w

ok take it as a hypothetical then. let’s say there’s a white nationalism rally where there’s some fires started and people attacked. is that just as bad as LA protests?

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Anonymous OP 14w

good and bad is subjective lmao your reality isn’t my reality

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Anonymous #6 14w

yes. those aren’t peaceful protests

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Anonymous #6 14w

reality is reality. period. outside that is delusion, which we r all in in certain aspects of life

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Anonymous OP 14w

soooo you’re crazy thanks got it you think people protesting against persecution of immigrants are the same as klansmen

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Anonymous OP 14w

You don’t seem upset at all and were making every excuse about it for trump earlier, making the unnecessary point that courts didn’t technically *demand* his return. I’m getting mad at how much of a sellout you’re being and how unwilling you are to admit that this is not a “both sides are bad” situation

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Anonymous #4 14w

if presenting facts makes me a sellout then sure babes. if that makes feel any better. “i’m going to bed but imma try and get the last word in cuz i think im right”

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Anonymous OP 14w

alright well in reality people fighting based on empathy is morally superior than people fighting based on selfishness and desire for dominance over other

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Anonymous #6 14w

u think that’s what’s happening in the masses, but it’s not. it’s such a small portion that is bound to happen, happened under every president, not all got the same coverage bc of purely trumps status (both good and bad)

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Anonymous OP 14w

idek what you’re talking about

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Anonymous #6 14w

clearly

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Anonymous OP 14w

girl so clarify the subject of the paragraph 😭

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Anonymous #6 14w

persecution of immigrants and the lack of due process

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Anonymous OP 14w

you think it’s just as noble a cause as white nationalism? if they’re just as bad as a klan rally then the causes must be equal right?

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Anonymous #6 14w

not how that works at all

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Anonymous OP 14w

how’s that? if their causes aren’t equal then how are they just as bad as each other?

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Anonymous #6 14w

think of it like this. u start at 0 they both did something that brings it down to -50. one stays there, one does other stuff and brings their number up a little bit to -35, both r still bad, but one isn’t as bad in certain aspects. but overall they r still bad and deteriorating. doesn’t matter how much good u do sometimes when u do so much bad. you’re still bad, just like the one next to u, j in ur own way

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Anonymous OP 14w

overall even if both bad one can be worse. let’s say they both start at zero and violence puts them both at -10 but one side is racist weirdos putting them at -40. both bad one clearly worse

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Anonymous OP 14w

Why do you type like Donald trump

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Anonymous #8 14w

I’ve lived around Hispanic neighborhoods my entire life, and I can tell you that these communities based around gangs or crime. The largest proportion of people be deported from the us are people working food service jobs, retail, agriculture, and contracting. These people were here illegally (technically) but there was a system in place for them to naturally become citizens. What ICE is doing is hitting this part of the community as seen in the abductions happening out of courtrooms

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Anonymous #8 14w

By going for this population, the administration is signaling that there is no forgiveness for immigrants, they don’t care if you are trying to become a citizen, they don’t care if you follow the law every single day. This kind of rhetoric is exactly how all racially based state violence occurs, first they deport people they can claim are “illegal” then they’ll take away existing protections like green cards, student visas, then suddenly an even larger population of people will be “illegal”

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Anonymous #8 14w

The LA protests were peaceful before police intervened, where they fired teargas and rubber bullets at a peaceful crowd. The protest has now become violent (although with no deaths) bc the police sought to escalate the situation and defend ICE in raiding an innocent migrant population (which they specifically said they wouldn’t do)

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Anonymous #10 14w

This is not a protest, this is a foreign takeover - and, even BEFORE the national guard arrived, it was anything BUT peaceful. Burning cars, destruction of property, throwing rocks… not peaceful. Do NOT compare these protests to the civil rights protests. Those protesters never started cars on fire, destroyed their fellow citizens property, or attacked their fellow citizens These things are NOT the same. YOU may not see that now, but HISTORY definitely will show it.

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Anonymous #10 14w

Fun fact, people who are from other countries, who moved to the US are still Americans! Do you really expect people to show up to an anti establishment protest carrying the American flag? Also there was no violence until the LA police started firing teargas and rubber bullets, the national guard barely has feet on the ground there, this has nothing to do with them

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Anonymous OP 14w

I seriously want to know what “human rights” are even being protested for right now. BOTH Jan 6 and LA are bad OP is right don’t be hypocrites

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Anonymous #10 14w

And you saying these people have “no legal rights” is such an indication of your willingness to fall for facist propaganda The right to a fair trial applies to ALL PEOPLE not just citizens as Writen in the constitution

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Anonymous #8 14w

prove that is what escalated it. not a single source i’ve seen says that

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Anonymous #8 14w

They’re only Americans if they got a citizenship. There are videos of cars burning and people throwing rocks and the time on the video is from BEFORE the NG was deployed If you don’t love America, WTF did you come here? And if your anti establishment, don’t get all pissy when the establishment comes to put an end to the chaos you’re causing

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Anonymous OP 14w

Maybe watch other news outlets besides CNN and msnbc

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Anonymous #10 14w

dawg what

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Anonymous #8 14w

Never said they don’t have that right. But do you even know what the people in LA were protesting?

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Anonymous #10 14w

Objectively, they were protesting a gov agency ICE legally arresting individuals who the gov has evidence of criminal/illegal activity and detaining them in gov facilities

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Anonymous #10 14w

The “evidence of criminal activity” you’re talking about is just being in the US The vast majority of the people being arrested have no other criminal charges Before ICE, the US had allowed these people to work towards citizenship via check ins. These people pay taxes. These people have jobs inside the community. These people have families, kids, relatives, some of whom are citizens are some not.

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Anonymous #10 14w

“You’re only American if you have citizenship” THIS IS NOT TRUE LAWS APPLY TO EVERYONE INSIDE THE US, CITIZEN OR NOT

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Anonymous #8 14w

If you are here illegally (aka expired visa like the one fashion artist or no visa) you are a criminal bc you have broken the law. I have a friend who came from AU and became a US citizen, so I know how it works. You need a green card if you’re going to stay here and work. The gov has EVERY right to revoke that green card if they want.

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Anonymous #8 14w

The laws apply yes, but you’re still not a citizen of the US, dumbass. A tourist is liable to the us laws but they do NOT have the full rights and privileges of a US citizen and they need a unexpired visa to be here legally Not sure why if you’re Hispanic, y’all suddenly think that doesn’t apply.

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Anonymous #10 14w

it’s a civil offense to start, then reentry of the same offense would make it a felony

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Anonymous OP 14w

And deportation is a legal disciplinary action for a civil offense under the constitution

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Anonymous #10 14w

yes, but it still isn’t initially a crime

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Anonymous OP 14w

But it’s still a violation of the law. Maybe look up the difference btwn a crime and a civil offense, respectfully

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Anonymous #10 14w

i think u need to learn the difference. it is not a crime to be broken. like how speeding is against the law, u get a traffic infraction, not a criminal proceeding

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Anonymous OP 14w

You still have a court date, tho. You can chose to show up or not - by not showing up, you’re saying “I’m guilty of speeding” - read the fine print on your ticket next time. And thanks for bringing that up. Cause there are different levels of civil offenses which merit different levels of punishment. A friend in law school who worked for a DA (and who’s Hispanic, not the friend from AU) said that the judges don’t just pick the punishments for these cases. there’s literally a matrix they use

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Anonymous #10 14w

So any judge who is dismissing the case of an immigrant with an expired visa - such as what was happening in LA (which is why ICE went there with such a large force). They are ignoring that matrix and breaking the law, which is why you’re starting to see judges being arrested.

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Anonymous #10 14w

u almost never get a court date for a speeding ticket. idk where ur getting that info but it is completely wrong

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Anonymous OP 14w

Ahem. You were saying….

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Anonymous #10 14w

Ahem. You were saying….

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Anonymous #10 14w

keep trying to argue with me when i study the criminal justice system. oh “but my friend”, that shows ur ignorance. that’s like saying “i got a black friend”

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Anonymous #10 14w

and in ur own ss it literally says “or a deadline for responding to the ticket. The ticket itself or a subsequent notice will typically i indicate when you need to appear in court or how to respond”, in turn proving urself wrong

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Anonymous OP 14w

Lol. Never said that. Getting a court date and requiring a court appearance are two different things. Some advice, bro. Start reading fine print and start trying to understand the difference btwn terms.

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Anonymous #10 14w

The court date…. Is the date you or your representative have to take legal action, which is often a court appearance Just admit that you’re full of shit and using the bureaucratic system to punish minorities

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Anonymous OP 14w

And you saying ur studying crim. justice is like you saying ur black. Who gives af? I care if your words have value and are they based in fact

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Anonymous #8 14w

Just curious… how many speeding tickets have you gotten?

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Anonymous #10 14w

the ss literally says it provides one or the other. not just the courts appearance/date. and ur telling me to read the fine print? maybe stop projecting here

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Anonymous OP 14w

Your ignorance is glaringly apparent to everyone who’s got a ticket, bro. My guess is you’ve had less than 3 speeding tickets and good for you. When you get a speeding ticket, the officer literally tells you this is your court date and time and shows you where it is printed on the ticket. He tells you, “you are not required to make an appearance and can pay the fine online but this is the court date/time if you want to contest the ticket”

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Anonymous #10 14w

since u like to use AI as a source, here it is proving u wrong yet again

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Anonymous #10 14w

Maybe instead of bashing our police force, try having a friendly conversation with them sometime. And ask them if peeps get a court date for speeding tickets You ALWAYS get a court date in case you want to contest the ticket (bc this is America and you have a right to defend urself and ur innocent until proven guilty). You’re only REQUIRED to APPEAR in court on that date if the speeding ticket is for extreme speeding.

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Anonymous #10 14w

…. You’re talking abt traffic offenses Do you really think that getting a few speeding tickets (not a flex btw) really makes you qualified to speak abt all civil courts???

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Anonymous #10 14w

i’m legit going to be. a police officer, ik how the system works!! thanks for trying to speak on something u have no idea on!

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Anonymous #10 14w

When you pay your fine online, you literally sign a form saying “I plead guilty to these traffic violations”

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Anonymous #10 14w

Traffic court is a specific, completely separate court process Most “court appearances” ARE NOT OPTIONAL, and you’d know that if you’ve ever actually been around the block before

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Anonymous #10 14w

that’s not a court appearance nor a court date

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Anonymous OP 14w

Okay. So inform me then. What would it be?

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Anonymous OP 14w

Starting a new thread. lol cool. So again. Plz define court date for me in your own words. Bc I was taking court date as a time/day (specified on your ticket in this case) where you show up to plead guilty/not guilty. From your SS, this would fall under arraignment, I believe

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Anonymous #10 14w

*Time/day you show up to court - aka court date. If that’s not the technical legal definition, then thats my bad

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Anonymous #10 14w

i thought i hit respond. court date is the day u have to show up in court. kinda in the name. u don’t always show up to court, nor have a court appearance (which both r u physically being there for court, one is a specified date, one is other legal activities)

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Anonymous OP 14w

Interesting. So what would you call the one on your ticket? a court… appointment?

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Anonymous #10 14w

tf r u even talking about. the due date of when u have to pay ur fine??

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Anonymous #10 14w

how about u actually do some research on it then get back to me

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Anonymous OP 14w

Here’s what I found. I’ll let you explain it tho since ig you’re the expert

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Anonymous OP 14w

I know! Did you see where it says “court date” right to the right of that tho? I’ll repeat it again for the third time - the short version, speeding tix: you get a court date but you aren’t always required to show up.

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Anonymous #10 14w

that’s actually not what u said. u said u get one no matter what, and its ur choice to show up or not, which is not the same

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Anonymous #10 14w

Dude you’re wrong, be the bigger man and just admit it Let’s focus on the actual issue, America is deporting people who they had previously decided not to mess with bc they were on the legal path to citizenship

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Anonymous #8 14w

Sure. Let’s move back to the Og issue. Not cause I’m wrong but simply bc this wasn’t the original issue and that argument has played out to its max. On the legal path to citizenship means you are a green card holder. Visas do not count

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Anonymous #13 14w

y would anyone support the cause of a hypocrit that cherry picks what is good and bad

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Anonymous OP 14w

You gotta realize that that argument isn’t enough to sway anyone who has these beliefs

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Anonymous #8 14w

which is y this country is so doomed

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Anonymous OP 14w

Tf does this even mean. You literally said in your OP that both sides have hypocrites you moron. Are you just telling people not to care? Bystanders are worse

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Anonymous OP 14w

Right and wrong are artificial constructs dude. Everyone has their own sense of the line in between and that’s part of what individualizes humans. Just because someone thinks differently than you doesn’t make them hypocrites. I don’t know where you’re get off repeating the same shit forcing people to see it your way.

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Anonymous #13 14w

if u cherry pick what is good and bad, when u do the same, that makes u a hypocrite kinda what the og post said!

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Anonymous OP 14w

bruh the idea of cherry-picking absolutely does not apply here. people can have sets of moral standards that cleanly sorts one into right and the other into wrong.

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Anonymous OP 14w

I know what cherry picking is. I mean why are you asking “why anyone would support the side of a hypocrite”? Both sides have em, so that’s redundant. If you’re saying we should all be bystanders instead well, that’s fucking stupid. People support sides for their own reasons, not the beliefs of others.

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Anonymous #13 14w

bc neither side stands for the ppl. we need to get rid of the two party system

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Anonymous #6 14w

there’s no clear set of morals

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Anonymous OP 14w

Sky is blue ahhh… bro did you read anything I’ve said? I literally have said TWICE now, that everyone has their OWN morals and their OWN reasons/beliefs for their actions. Just because you disagree with them doesn’t make you right.

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Anonymous OP 14w

yeah. everyone has their own set of morals meaning what would be hypocritical in YOUR moral compass isn’t hypocritical for everyone else’s

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Anonymous OP 14w

Ok I partially agree with the latter… but neither side stands for the people? Are you still talking about the original LA issue or political parties because if it’s the former one side LITERALLY IS THE PEOPLE

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Anonymous #6 14w

Thank you bro that was much better said than what I was trying to get across

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Anonymous #6 14w

there’s basic morals, and individual morals

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Anonymous #13 14w

neither r for the ppl

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Anonymous OP 14w

you just said there’s no clear set of morals 💀

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Anonymous #6 14w

clear set as the only morals. there’s different types hence “no clear set”

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Anonymous OP 14w

So um… if you clearly look at my comment I did non in fact ask you to repeat yourself

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Anonymous OP 14w

Again no shit there’s no universal set of morals that’s why we have these problems stop saying shit everyone knows dude

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Anonymous OP 14w

okay…so there are different morals meaning if people have different morals than you your point holds no water

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Anonymous #6 14w

destroying a country is morally bad period. that’s not individual morals. that’s basic morals

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Anonymous OP 14w

you’re creating completely arbitrary boundaries for morality lmao everyone’s morals are individuals there is no universal morality

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Anonymous OP 14w

Yeah and most of America isnt purposely supporting the destruction of our country. A protests intentions and its results are different

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Anonymous #13 14w

but supporting the damages it does, instead of separating the protest from the riots it’s lumped all together, and making the issue worse

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Anonymous OP 14w

At first I thought this whole conversation was like talking to a brick wall. I was wrong. This is worse. It’s more like a broken alarm clock. Repetitive, logical fallacies, and arbitrary lines. Pick a subject and stick with it, don’t broaden the scope every time your points get countered.

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Anonymous #6 14w

so murder, hate crimes and the likes are individual? morals?

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Anonymous #13 14w

u haven’t countered a single point wdym😭😭 when have i swayed off topic? besides the ticket bc they led it down that path

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Anonymous OP 14w

Strictly speaking. Yes. If it was universal that murder was bad we wouldn’t have serial killers

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Anonymous OP 14w

lol there’s never a way to “separate the riots from the protests” that’s the entire point of trump sending in the national guard, to force protesters to escalate their action or have the protest come off as ineffective

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Anonymous #13 14w

those r ppl that lack morals, that’s the difference here. y do i have to explain such a simple concept to a grown adult??

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Anonymous OP 14w

Talking about a two party system??? What does that have to do with the govt and the people in LA? Unless those are the two parties which is really weird way of putting it. It seems like you were trying to make this about republicans and democrats

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Anonymous #8 14w

if democrats and bernie sanders r telling u its getting out of hand, u r the problem. not LE. u guys dont look at successful civil rights leaders and it shows

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Anonymous #13 14w

bc it is??? tf????

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Anonymous OP 14w

They don’t lack morals they have their own set that’s what we’re explaining to you.

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Anonymous #13 14w

the majority of jan 6 is red, the majority of the LA riots is blue

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Anonymous OP 14w

sometimes people who commit those things know they’re immoral and just choose to do them anyway. people who believe it to be moral for them are called sociopaths

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Anonymous OP 14w

Again, there’s the projection. I haven’t sided with anyone stop portraying me as a problematic villain. Jeez you’re kinda an asshole.

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Anonymous OP 14w

I’m glad you mentioned benri, cause that highlights another key difference between Jan 6 and LA The republican representatives never denounced their actions, and refused to admit that the people who participated are criminals even after a police officer was killed Ofc everyone knows that you shouldn’t go around breaking windows and flipping cars, but we chose to say that these actions are a result of government chaos NOT an integral part of the movement, and we can accept the legal consequences

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Anonymous #8 14w

those actions happened before police arrived

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Anonymous #13 14w

when did i put u in any party?

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Anonymous OP 14w

I’m reading heavy aggressive language such as “ur the problem” after you’re bringing up the Democratic Party. Also “u guys don’t look at successful civil rights leaders”. Respectfully, this is an anonymous app. You don’t know shit about anyone here. Stop acting like it.

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Anonymous OP 14w

Such a non response Do you really not see the difference between Jan 6, which was state endorsed violence against a legal process VS LA, which is an antiestablishment protest that lead to some property destruction?

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Anonymous #13 14w

never said ur the problem. that’s u playing victim. and if u did look at successful civil riots leaders, u would be supporting these riots at all. u would condemn them and separate urself from them

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Anonymous #8 14w

ah yes, bc trump said raid the capital!!

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Anonymous OP 14w

I have looked at successful civil rights leaders and never said whether I condemned the riots or not. Placing me on a side almost. Once again this is you projecting and forcing your opinions onto others. As you said earlier, this is a conversation where everyone is entitled to their own ideas and opinions or so to speak “the hero of their story” (weird ass way to put it).

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Anonymous OP 14w

He pardoned all of the people arrested from that event???? What more of an endorsement do you want?

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Anonymous #8 14w

and i condemn that action 100% all of those that were involved should be held liable. but he never said raid the capitol. he said “peacefully and patriotically”

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Anonymous OP 14w

am i trippin bc i don’t think they ever claimed trump said that

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Anonymous OP 14w

Now you’re glazing trump over something I never said. At the end of the la riots, the people who destroyed property will be arrested and tried, and no democrat is gonna go arrest that The “protesters” from Jan 6 faced no long term consequences, even though an officer was killed in their insurrection

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Anonymous #8 14w

Detest not arrest my b

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