Anonymous #1 1w

They were actual politicians. If Kirk cared so much he would've ran

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Anonymous #1 1w

but they were still targets of political violence, it was the speaker of the minnesota house, like she was unironically more relevant and important than a social media influencer. fuck outta here

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Anonymous #3 1w

Do we live in the same reality? Charlie Kirk was insanely famous. You’re talking about state politicians. I hated Charlie Kirk, but objectively, it makes sense that he would receive more media coverage. Also, he was assassinated in public?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Exactly.

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That’s not the argument I’m making?? I’m simply saying he was more famous, was assassinated in public, and there are literal videos of him dying from multiple angles, and that’s why there’s more media coverage.

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Dude what do you think you’re arguing with? I never said any of those things. Holy illiterate.

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He is, objectively more famous. Therefore more media coverage, more outrage. It’s not that hard to understand

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Yeah, I’m calling you illiterate, because you displayed illiterate behavior within our argument. That is not an ad hominem, further displaying your illiteracy.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Lmao he deleted all his comments

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Anonymous #5 1w

tbh yeah

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Anonymous #6 1w

But we DIDNT did we? Interesting that people like you o oh want to care now that you’re hypocrisy is being shown

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Anonymous #9 1w

This needed to be said. Thank you.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Nah, kkkirk didn’t want it not deserve it. Shouldn’t have been murdered, but is not deserving of mourning.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Pissed? A manhunt for weeks? What universe are you living in? tRump said they were a ‘waste of time’. Dude had a hitlist of DOZENS of dems and supporters of PP. The terrorist is a right-wing evangelical, though, so nobody on the right cared. No, instead it was brushed off and mocked because they couldn’t use him to target minorities.

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Anonymous #11 1w

He had no issue saying they were a “waste of time”.

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Anonymous #10 1w

You need to get out of your echo chamber. Conservatives called for justice.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Don’t know what they said but they may have been banned.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Ah, yes. By mocking it, ignoring it, and dismissing it as a ‘waste of time’.

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Anonymous #12 1w

The right was ABSOLUTELY celebrating I saw many of them saying they wanted more to die too you’re rewriting shit that happened THIS YEAR don’t play dumb. They were high profile and frankly more important than Charlie Kirk because they were actual legislators It was absolutely partisan just because it was your side committing the violence doesn’t mean you can pull some lone wolf bullshit

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Anonymous #7 1w

It’s ok to correct someone, but saying they’re “rewriting history” bc they weren’t aware of all of the facts is just… dude.

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Anonymous #13 1w

Except I’m willing to bet they WERE aware and in fact I doubt they weren’t actively participating in it. Conservatives can and will exploit good will against people. I don’t give them the chance because they have shown they don’t deserve it.

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Anonymous #7 1w

You want a bigger brush for those broad strokes?

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Anonymous #8 1w

Sorry for calling a group what they are. Besides conservatives can’t really be talking I know what they say about any minorities they make worse claims with less evidence

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Anonymous #7 1w

I didn’t see any major figures celebrating. I didn’t see the front page of Reddit celebrating. I didn’t see yik yak celebrating. Where was the celebration on the right about that? Were you reading the comments on daily stormer or something? And no, I wasn’t celebrating because I didn’t celebrate the death of anyone. And no one is more important than anyone else, but Charlie Kirk definitely had a higher profile on the national stage.

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Anonymous #12 1w

And the shooter was an appointee of the waltz government who had delusions of grandeur. He killed those people because he felt personally wronged, not because of their party. It’s an absolute tragedy, but it wasn’t the same as this. And as to your frankly psychotic opinion about conservatives in general, you need to take a step back. Entirely half the country isn’t out to get you or acting in bad faith.

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Anonymous #12 1w

“I didn’t see it so it’s not real” you were under a rock then. Liberals seem louder because there’s more of them but conservatives make it a damn point to be as loud as they can when a democrat is harmed to cheer for their death and misfortune. You can deny it and you try to distance yourself from it but that doesn’t mean it isn’t happening that’s delusion to pretend it is

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Anonymous #12 1w

Besides that you’re a conspiracy nut so when you get better at actually identifying decent information come tell me

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Anonymous #7 1w

Where was this celebrated? Tell me so I can go look, everything I saw at the time and everything I can find now is just conservatives condemning it. And I didn’t say “I didn’t see it so it’s not real.” I just pointed out major spaces where this is being lauded and that wasn’t. If you can point to a movement who celebrated that I would be happy to change my mind. Also when did I mention Conspiracies?

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Anonymous #12 1w

12 don’t even bother with 7. He’s clearly mental.

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Anonymous #4 1w

You aren’t wrong. It’s amazing how many crazy people are on this app though.

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Anonymous #12 1w

Literally everywhere. It just isn’t front page because again conservatives are a minority who only have the power they do through gerrymandering and corporate sponsors like seriously if you want one though, Twitter. Damn place is a cesspool it was filled with it

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Anonymous #4 1w

Sure buddy I’m mental for judging people by their actions that makes so much sense

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Anonymous #7 1w

Went to X and searched Melissa Hortman. Not ONE SINGLE negative post OR comment about her.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Wow really that’s so shocking it’s almost like most of those posts have been deleted by now because they’re blatant hate speech wowwwww so shocking I’m appalled you’ve really owned the libs with this

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Anonymous #4 1w

Was Hortman standing for the repeal of the civil rights act or saying that if she had a black airline pilot she would get off the plane? Just wondering of course.

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Anonymous #4 1w

You’re fucking stupid I could hide my eyes from you and you’d think I’d disappeared

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Anonymous #4 1w

You gotta scroll down until you find the actual Russian bots. 12 you are so deep in the propaganda cool-aid that you believe propaganda from both sides of the spectrum so long as it confirms your world view. And for the record, census data shows that about half the population is conservative, we aren’t some vocal minority. You may live in an area where there aren’t many conservatives, but look at the data.

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Anonymous #7 1w

I don’t think we’re saying you’re wrong about conservatives celebrating, but I think you need to remember that everyone’s fyp is Sooooo different. We’re just saying that we didn’t see it. It may be bigger than we realize, or smaller than you thought. Also, you keep making statements about conservatives as if the comment above us was conservative, but they said nothing to indicate one way or the other. I’m personally a leftist btw.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Completely irrelevant to this conversation

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Anonymous #12 1w

Also, I WISH conservatives were the minority, but they just aren’t. I live in the south, and everywhere I go, there are at least half conservatives. Some areas you’ll be pressed to find a liberal. Maybe you just don’t see them where you live, so it feels like only online so it feels fake. My extended family is conservative and lives in that area. I think you’re just wrong about that one.

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Anonymous #13 1w

Woops that one was supposed to be to 7, sorry

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Anonymous #12 1w

The killer was aware and had a long list of dem politicians to kill. He killed two of them and then was intercepted. It was completely partisan.

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Anonymous #7 1w

You calling ppl conservative for having disagreements with you when they haven’t indicated is giving the same energy of christians calling other christians not christian for believing slightly different things. I’m an atheist and a leftist, who grew up in a baptist, conservative space. Be careful, bc you come off as hateful as they do.

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Anonymous #2 1w

The only think Charlie Kirk opposed in the civil rights act was the dispirit impact standard, which is essentially codified racism. It served its purpose at the time but now it’s simply legal discrimination. And he wasn’t talking about a black pilot, he was talking about a DEI pilot. As a pilot myself (though of small planes.) I fully believe that any normal adult is able to be a pilot, but I don’t want to get on a plane flown by someone who got in because of lower standards.

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Anonymous #14 1w

Oh wow. Good to know. Also, #7, I’m not trying to say everything you said is wrong or something. I just think that your approach to debates isn’t going to make people listen to you.

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Anonymous #12 1w

Minorities can clear the same bar majorities do. It’s fkn racist as hell to say they need to be discriminated in favor of.

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Anonymous #12 1w

Saying D.E.I. makes people have lower standards is… dude. They still have to meet standards. It’s about making sure there isn’t discrimination. Not about giving ppl licenses if they’re black even if they don’t have the license or something -_-

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Anonymous #12 1w

DEI is LITERALLY making it so minorities only have to clear the standards the majority does. It doesn’t even benefit black people the most it benefits WOMEN more than anyone else. And Charlie knows that I guarantee it had been explained to him multiple times but he knew DEI was code for black people culturally THATS why he said DEI

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Anonymous #13 1w

1. They are a minority by the definition of the word conservatism isn’t popular outside of the places where it’s REALLY popular, like the south where I’m also from. On a larger scale people don’t lean that way and the reason conservatism looks popular in the south is geographical but outside of it it’s because of gerrymandering and corporations backing conservatism. If cities got a fair vote we’d never have a republican president after Reagan.

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Anonymous #7 1w

That’s literally the point of the electoral college, the people in the big cities want things that the other people don’t.

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Anonymous #13 1w

And if it comes off as hateful it isn’t far off the mark. Why wouldn’t I hate people who want to see me and my community dead. Who work tirelessly to strip every one of their freedoms? Who cheer at the suffering of countless people? I hate them because they are the antithesis of decency and I’m done coddling them like children letting them constantly claim ignorance is just us infantilizing them let’s treat them like adults and drag them into the 20th century by force

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Anonymous #4 1w

And the big cities are the minority of the population so they SHOULD get to decide in a democracy. Not like small town are acting in everyone’s best interests in fact usually quite the opposite they’ve destroyed their own communities in the name of owning the libs.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Rereading this thread, I agree more with most of the things you are saying. I’m also tired of the other side’s bullshit 😔 I am torn between “don’t give them an inch or they’ll take a mile” and “we should be spreading love, not hate.” Yes, hate the people spreading hate. Hate that they use power to take away rights. Fight back against it. But do it because we love people. Do it because we care. Holding hate in my heart is so exhausting. I still plan on being activist. Idk.

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Anonymous #7 1w

I think for a while, part of how I discovered the left and joined it is BECAUSE the right is often so hateful and selfish. So yeah, fighting against that is the goal. Bc they SAY they are loving bc of Christianity or whatever but it’s not in their actions. I mostly saw how loving, caring, passionate the left is. But we can be hateful too. I thought we were fighting ideas and politics, but I guess we’re fighting people, too. It’s just sad, and exhausting.

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Anonymous #7 1w

At least you’re honest.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Nah they’re not banned, they just got embarrassed. It was commenter #2

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Anonymous #1 1w

I see

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Anonymous #9 1w

Hard to find peace when one side is trying to take over the country. How do you negotiate with Christian nationalists? They literally think god is commanding them to spread control and oppress people. No peace to be found with Nazis

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Anonymous #15 1w

Because social media wants you to believe we cannot connect with each other, and yes their views can be oppressive but you have to learn to meet people where they are to understand them. They believe that they are helping and want to help and at least I’m sympathetic to that idk about you, but from my experience if you hear people out they can be more reasonable then you think.

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Anonymous #9 1w

Strongly disagree. This is not o e of those things where you see a radical person on social media and think that’s everyone. Every single maga I’ve met is a bad person. Just being maga is a bad person. There is no middle ground to someone who says we should put Latinos in camps, risking that you’ll get some US citizens, and that trans people don’t exist. Trump has directly violated parts of the constitution and his party and supporters defend that. What middle ground is there to be had?

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Anonymous #15 1w

I mean that’s your opinion and if you want to live like that you can, but I won’t

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Anonymous #10 1w

He got it from Woodrow Wilson jackass

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Anonymous #8 1w

Sure buddy whatever makes you sleep better at night

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Anonymous #8 1w

No, your beloved rapist in office is a white supremacist piece of shit.

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Anonymous #9 1w

This is not really a live like that thing. You can be optimistic about the future and think things will get better, but denying the reality of the present because it makes you sad is not optimism it is ignorance. There are real people are attempting to do very bad things in this country that will personally affect you. It frustrates me how people see politics as a game and not a reflection of morals. Idk why you’d want to be friends with a Christian nationalist

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Anonymous #7 1w

DEI is not at all about making sure minorities have to meet the same standard as the majority. Thats not what it’s for.

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Anonymous #8 1w

That’s literally the intention of the design I have literally had to look into DEI because it’s part of my major and its focus is on merit and anonymity to ensure fair hiring practices. Stop listening to Fox and listen to people who actually interact with it.

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Anonymous #7 1w

That is the opposite of DEI and no I do not watch Fox. If there is a lack of a minority group within an organization DEI requires that number be increased by any means including the reduction of standards.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Yeah that’s only for egregious cases where statistically it shouldn’t happen that a demographic doesn’t exist in a workforce. Stop using fringe cases and one policy to shape the whole thing. Ignorance doesn’t make you look better

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Anonymous #15 1w

I didn’t say I would want to be friends but I am a very welcoming person and I will meet anyone and get to know them. And I feel as though everyone’s opinion matters becuase their up bringing created them. Also the birds arnt real Ted talk really impacted me. Also in the past hour I got intoxicated. However I am a very empathic. Person who looks to rationalize everyone’s belief and actions the best I can.

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Anonymous #7 1w

No it’s not just fringe cases. Dayton Ohio for example rejected the results of their police exam recently because not enough black people passed. They then reduced the standard which was a HUGE insult to black community and it turned out the standard wasn’t even the problem. Black people passed the exam at the same rate, but less of them applied. It was a failure of community outreach, not a test being biased.

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Anonymous #8 1w

And it wasn’t that an absurdly small ratio of the applicants were black, 21%.

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Anonymous #9 1w

Rationalization should mean you excuse the beliefs. Sometimes there are bad people who have bad beliefs, and there are millions of them in America. I understand what Trump supporters believe, I just think it’s vile. They do not come in good faith and they only want what’s best for some Americans, not all. You may have empathy for them but they do not have empathy for other people

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Anonymous #15 1w

I think you should dm me for us to continue this conversation because I think both of our opinions are important and I would enjoy to understand what you are saying becuase I definitely disagree, and I appreciate the challenging conversation.

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