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RIP actually reading Hamlet before using it as source material
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Anonymous 4w

Like to completely erase the meaning of Ophelia as a character is gross. Like the whole point is that she had no free will from the men in her life, she could have only been saved by choosing herself

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Anonymous 4w

Taylor has never used a literary reference correctly. The scarlet letters, Romeo and Juliet, Cassandra, I could go on. It’s funny atp bc how are you gonna call yourself an English teacher and not understand the classics

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Word

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Like if calling it the fate of Snow White or sleeping beauty would make more thematic sense

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

she’s not saying she’s the same as her she is saying she is saved from suffering the same fate as her. which is ophelia’s end, not her entire character and life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Ophelia’s end was going insane and killing herself, for reference

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Ophelia’s end happens bc of the men in her life, and bc she had no agency from these men. You can’t talk about the fate of Ophelia without talking about how it was men that drove her to that point and how only she could have saved herself

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Exactly. No one can argue that Taylor has no agency. She’s literally a billionaire.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Something about a man saving Taylor from the fate of Ophelia (which happened bc of the men in her life) is really weird

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

yeah exactly?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

and taylor is making a comparison to the men her life it doesn’t have to be the exact same lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

how are yall talking about understanding english when the references are not meant to be the exact meaning from their source material

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

she’s just saying without him she would’ve went insane bc that’s what happened to ophelia yall are trying so hard to find something to be mad about i fear

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

If you reference something it should be close to the source material and not trying to change the entire meaning of what the source material was saying

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

There’s stories where a man has saved a woman (Snow White, sleeping beauty, beauty in the beast, andromeda and perseus, Eros and psyche, to name a few). Why use one where the men caused a woman to go insane and twist it to fit your narrative instead of picking one that fits better?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

she’s not changing the meaning it’s only a reference/comparison. y’all are trying to be so smart but don’t understand a basic metaphor. it doesn’t mean they are the exact the same

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I get that it’s a reference but I don’t like how she referenced Ophelia. There’s so many other literary figures she could’ve used, why pick the one who went insane bc of men?

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