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I think “male/female socialization” is weaponized by our transphobic society but it’d be disingenuous to say that being raised with the forced expectation of man/womanhood has NO impact on how someone goes through the world. We all get to change tho :D!
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Anonymous 1d

but to say that a trans person receives a male or female socialization is so innacurate to the actual experience of being trans. which is mostly being punished for failing to achieve the gender that was forced on you. its at the very least a misunderstanding of trans people

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 23h

Can you explain more? I wanna see if it lines up with my experience growing up cause usually people don’t go super into detail about it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

my experience was mostly of feeling like an outsider to gender. i knew i *should* like masc things but i didnt really have friends to force a gender on me. so i felt left out, as if i hadnt been socialized, and i spent a lot of time discovering my actual identity. even while i didnt realize it, a lot of transmisogyny “things” affected me. not taking up space, pleasing others, only being able to view my ideal of gender as sexual (shoutout femboys), thinking of myself as an impostor

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 22h

The thing about socialization is that it happens no matter what. There’s not some “innate male” aspect that is instilled in someone, that’s not what socialization is. It’s behaviors that are rewarded/instilled/punished based on the expectation a society has. That’s why I prefer the terms “socialized with the expectation of woman/manhood.”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Sure but as #1 stated it doesn’t usually have any effect on trans people besides making them feel isolated and uncomfortable in their perceived body. I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to argue?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 21h

So the punishment for exhibiting the behaviors my parents didn’t want me to exhibit did in fact have an effect on me

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Growing up told I should aim to be a wife and mother ALSO had an effect on me. Being told I should be seen and not heard did indeed! Have an effect on me.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Ohhh sorry I think I misunderstood lol. My bad

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

You said there’s no effect then listed two direct results of socialization being incongruous with one’s identity. No one is saying you’re less of a woman or whatever, I’m saying that the expectations we are raised in impact us. That’s just an objectively true statement. And it impacts our experiences as people who are trans. Because I was raised with the expectation of womanhood, I don’t have the same experience in defining my manhood that a cis guy would. Same for trans and cis women. That’s ok

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12h

idk if this was clear but this is just my experience. dysphoria and transphobia are veeeery complicated and affect people in a lot of different ways

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