Trans Talk on Yik Yak | Saw a trans men agreeing with a terf about “male socialization” type shit only for the terfs friend to immediately butt in and tell him that he will never be a real man

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Saw a trans men agreeing with a terf about “male socialization” type shit only for the terfs friend to immediately butt in and tell him that he will never be a real man

146 upvotes, 9 comments. Yik Yak image post by Anonymous in Trans Talk. "Saw a trans men agreeing with a terf about “male socialization” type shit only for the terfs friend to immediately butt in and tell him that he will never be a real man"

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Anonymous 1d

Sorry, if you want to sell out your community, you deserve all the karma that comes your way. Spitting in the wind comes back at you twice as hard

Anonymous 1d

Tokens get spent.

Anonymous 1d

is socialization a factor in learned behaviors? sure. is it the sole defining factor of who you are and how you interact with people? not even a little. that and its not like everyone is socialized in th exact same way by gender and even then it doesnt affect people in the same way either

Anonymous 1d

something 'bout leopards and faces

Anonymous 1d

I will never understand the trans men that are chill with the idea they are all “female-socialized” and forever inherently mentally/emotionally different to all cis men because of it. Obviously there are broad patterns to how people raise a kid they perceive as female vs. male, but individually everyone is socialized differently and the flattened model of how these differences work and effect people applies really Really poorly to anyone “atypical”.

Anonymous

#1 1d

I think growing up with girlhood affected my life in impactful ways, and it’s not something I’m ashamed of. I think my life experience is inherently different because I spent so much of it as a girl, especially a straight identifying one before coming out. But I think some guys see it as a self loathing “I won’t get to this level of manhood” kind of vibe, and that’s not me. I think it’s beautiful getting to grow up with the closeness of girlhood, and living life seeing things from such a->

Anonymous

#4 1d

-> unique perspective. I think it continues to impact my relationships with women too. But I do think the way you are perceived and therefore treated growing up has a large impact on most people

Anonymous

#4 1d

Just to clarify, definitely not agreeing with the terfs or anything, or saying that it makes me less of a man for having experienced that:)

Anonymous

#4 1d

I don’t disagree that the experience will resonate with some people, but others who were supposedly female-socialized do not relate at all. I came out young and my family was pretty egalitarian (though transphobic). So, the issue isn’t acknowledging that someone could be affected by these patterns of gender-specific socialization but more acting like you can generalize across a group with such diverse experience as trans people (which is how terfs discuss gendered socialization).