
Israel has been doing some disgusting and horrible things. Netanyahu and his whole war cabinet should be tried for war crimes. I’m a little unclear on what you mean when you say it’s “current form” shouldn’t exist, but hasn’t the US done those things too? Does the US have a right to exist? Are you saying that this Israeli government needs to be decisively kicked out of office and should never return (I agree), or that Israel as a country should be taken over by a different country (I disagree)
There’s certainly an argument to be made for that. But I don’t think the critical question is whether it ‘should’ exist. It does exist. So what do you propose we do about this to rectify the injustice? It’s not like we can just dissolve the United States tomorrow without immense repercussions and disasters.
I don’t waste my time arguing with Zionists because they will deny everything even when presented with direct evidence. Again, I’m opposed to genocidal ethnostates in all forms, it just so happens that the Israeli state is so overtly evil that it’s near impossible to not call it out. It’s simply shocking to me the only defense Zionists have are whataboutisms
The only “direct evidence” I ever see are appeals to authority such as the UN (which, in reality, has no authority and had workers participating in the October 7 attacks), bullshit Al Jazeera propaganda articles, and bullshit TikToks with no actual sources or operating off misattributed or AI videos. Ah, yes, Israel is “so overtly evil”, while Iran screams “death to America” and murders their own women on the street - but heavens forbid Israel defends itself.
First, for the genocide point , as I stated previously, the UN and ICJ literally have no authority in declaring a genocide (they’re just bodies comprised of foreign officials, not genocide experts). For there to be genocide, there has to be intent. Israel, if it wanted to, could have wiped Gaza off the map on October 8, 2023, but it hasn’t. And clearly if the reason is to be discreet, it’s not working, since minds like yours have obviously “seen the light”. It’s a war that Hamas started.
People seem to forget that Hamas massacred, raped and tortured over a thousand Israeli civilians and took hundreds hostage. Israel just wants new, non-terrorist government in Gaza, so they can feel somewhat secure in their own country, so an October 7 level event doesn’t happen again. They warn civilian before bombing buildings, it’s not Israel’s fault Hamas tells civilians to stay where they are to become martyrs. It’s not Israel’s fault Hamas hides weapons/terrorists under schools/hospitals.
You are correct that Israel was created to be a Jewish state. That, however, does not make it an ethnostate. Israeli Arabs comprise almost half of Israel’s population, and they have much representation in every field, from government officials, to doctors, to almost any career. They are legally equal to every other Israeli. There are mosques everywhere for them to practice. They even have their own political parties to represent their own interests in the coalition government.