Anonymous blue__wave 24w

And it also doesn’t fix the underlining cultural problems that make a demagogue like Trump possible.

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Anonymous #1 24w

Ik it looks bad but it’d be the lesser of two evils and it ensures that republicans cannot destroy democracy

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

Unfortunately it’s necessary. This might be the only way to save democracy

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Anonymous OP 24w

the republican party has been around for 150 years. it’s not gonna “destroy democracy.” if anything, mistrust and violence between parties will cause it’s destruction. you can’t just blame all the country’s problems on one side and think it’ll be magically fixed if you do🤦🏼‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 24w

“We must protect democracy but destroying democracy the same way we fear they will destroy democracy”

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Anonymous OP 24w

How is it necessary? You’re feeding into the narrative that motivates the behavior. I feel if most people just had more civics knowledge and better ways of engaging with info Trump would be cooked.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

If republicans win again they will install a dictatorship. We cannot allow that

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Anonymous og_beer 24w

If we don’t do this then republicans will install a dictatorship and completely destroy democracy. Sometimes we need to take a small step backwards before moving forward to avoid a monumental step backward.

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Anonymous OP 24w

plus the maga movement is full of people who are extremely far-right. the republican disapproval rating for trump is at a record high. not every registered republican is some nazi

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Anonymous #3 24w

The Republican Party has never been like this before. They’ve always been bad but never fascist

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Anonymous OP 24w

Your dictatorship is obviously a much better idea of course

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Anonymous OP 24w

Right now it’s not lookkng great for republicans electorally mid terms are historically rough for sitting presidents and Trump has the lowest approval rating of any President in U.S. history. Like if they hardcore attempted to rig the midterms that would radicalize me but right now it’s fine. The electrical trajectory isn’t looking great.

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Anonymous og_beer 24w

Because it won’t be a dictatorship. There will still be free and fair elections without Nazi interference and influence

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Anonymous OP 24w

Right right yeah blocking half the country’s voters makes things free and fair you’re right I’m following you now

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Anonymous #3 24w

Which is why their voting privileges should only be suspended and not revoked. We will give them a chance to do the right thing in the future

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Anonymous OP 24w

And to do what you’re asking we would either 1. Have to have our own left wing authoritarian which has its own problems or 2. Radically change the constitution which isn’t on the board right now. It’s just bad optics and unnecessary.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Right now a better path is to push dems hard until the midterms then push hard for impeachment then bar him from office or just wait until his poor health takes him. Ideally if possible push for the charges to resume after he leaves office.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

It won’t be authoritarian. The Democratic Party is pretty right leaning compared to European countries. Without the Republican Party our politics will shift towards Europe

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

They’ll lose this time but we need to ensure our future while we have the chance

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Anonymous OP 24w

It would be authoritarian our constitution would not allow this.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Ok but just banning people from voting or talking isnt fixing the problem.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

It’s not banning them it’s just suspending them.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

There would need to be amendments during the next president’s term

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Anonymous OP 24w

Ok temporally banning or suspending isn’t fixing the underlining cultural issue that’s the problem.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Yeah that won’t happen, if you get an amendment through then clearly maga isn’t a problem because that would take massive majority support.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

That’s what 3 is for. Banning supporting republicans and Nazis allows for that cultural change

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Anonymous OP 24w

Kinda but that happened after the holocaust was fully revealed and their country was occupied and de-nazified for years. Not saying we need that but the more important thing is a serious culture change that’s more important than banning whatever.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Like I would be more interested in some basic transparency laws for social media or a serious change is civics education.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

In a way the left needs to “occupy” the country in order to de-nazify it. It worked perfectly in when they did that in Germany.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Yeah it also blew up in our face in Iraq. You can’t just ban ideas you need to offer something. Also legally and practically your plan just isn’t going to work.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

It blew up in our face in Iraq because republicans had a hand in it

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Anonymous OP 24w

Lmao true.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

Think about it. It went so well after WW2. We can have the same success

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Anonymous OP 24w

I don’t think you convinced me but if it gets nazi germany levels of bad I agree.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

We need to stop everything BEFORE it gets Nazi Germany level bad. If we let it get that far we won’t be able to stop it

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Anonymous OP 24w

Yes I agree, but the action you take needs to be justified for example we can kill everyone on earth so there isn’t another Hitler. I’m saying we haven’t met that level to justify your actions and it’s not practically possible.

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

Look at the young republicans group chat that got leaked. There are hundreds of potential future hitlers. The threat is absolutely there to justify everything I proposed

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

Nobody would be killed they would just lose all political power

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Anonymous OP 24w

Yeah I’m not saying you’re saying that it’s just an analogy.

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Anonymous OP 24w

Yeah but that’s not every Republican I agree it alarming but the action we take against it has to be 1.practically possible and 2. Lead to the best outcome.

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If they’re willing to use those guns against the government then that is even more reason the arrests would be necessary

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 24w

It would not be a smooth process but it would be worth it in the end

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Anonymous #1 24w

Does this not feel like a psyop lol?

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Anonymous blue__wave 24w

Like a Republican on here seeing if we’ll say crazy shit to justify the revenge fantasy.

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