Anonymous landtrust 3w

There’s plenty of videos of him getting obliterated in the UK by students there

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Anonymous OP 3w

Different culture

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Anonymous OP 3w

they argue for different things. he’s honed in on the american psyche. if you did what they did you’d just sound insane tbh lol

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

I’m thinking something along the lines of: “In October 2023 you were under the impression that Israel let October 7th happen. There’s videos of you saying that. Then, in November 2023, Netanyahu denied a “hostages for ceasefire” agreement. Seeing as that they let their citizens die on that day, and refused to stop fighting in order to save their civilians, how can you genuinely say that their mission is Gaza is for their people’s safety, and not to conduct a cleansing?”

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Anonymous OP 3w

All I’m saying is. Nobody debates Charlie Kirk thinking they’re gonna make themselves look dumb

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Anonymous OP 3w

ig i don’t get what you think you’ll get out of interacting w him. best case scenario you get him to stumble a smidge and don’t make his main tape? worst case you look a fool online in front of millions? like i just don’t see a win here

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Anonymous #2 3w

But I think I see what you’re saying, the crowd dynamic between there and here is so vastly different that he’d have the advantage here?

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Anonymous #2 3w

When you go on his show. You are admitting he won. So don’t do it

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Anonymous #2 3w

If it goes well I’d send the clip to other media places that would post it

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Anonymous #2 3w

But if I were going to do it I’d prep for days to make sure every base is covered

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Anonymous OP 3w

You should spend that time studying instead

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

Why is that the case?

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Anonymous OP 3w

It’s his show

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

I mean why is it the case he’s won?

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Anonymous OP 3w

british political talking points are similar enough that he thought he could do the same thing and realized even conservative brit’s are left of american democrats on most things. he was trained on how to deal with 98% of all american political discourse. tbh your best bet would be to go centrists or independent viewpoints but they can’t be morally based.

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

Sure, but if I can make him look bad on his own show, and get the clip spread around, it’d go to show how incompetent he is

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Anonymous #2 3w

which would still leave you sounding insane bc you’d have to be willing to make arguments that government overreach is too far—why do we need driver’s licenses

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Anonymous OP 3w

What do you look like

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

And sound

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Anonymous OP 3w

lol but people have done that and it just gets buried. like you might get 10 seconds of reddit clout but is that worth it? i’d avoid those people at all costs. he came to my campus and i just stayed home while people tried to petition my school to not let him be here then tried to do what you’re trying to do. all anyone remembers is the people he clowned on

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

And your public speaking skills? And your calm under fire skills?

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

A bit like troye Sivan circa 2016 but with better hair. Deep voice. Speak too fast usually, but I’ve been trained by speaking to 1,000s+ in conference settings and by my mock thesis defense (defend in October)

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Anonymous #2 3w

I’m moreso trying to get people to see how bad he is, I’ll blur my own face idrc about what i personally gain from it

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Anonymous #2 3w

But yeah definitely don’t wanna be one of the people who does poorly

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Anonymous OP 3w

i mean it sounds like you’re dead set on this no matter what but i just caution that even best case scenario all you have is a clip of you that gets buried under your peers looking like apes

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Anonymous #2 3w

Nah honestly I’m more than likely gonna be out of the country when he’s on campus, I just wanna organize a well structured argument to give to people who would be interested, or to do it myself if I don’t end up leaving

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Anonymous #3 3w

But I wanted to ask him about South Park. Charlie Kirk took their mockery well, but the White House fell for the rage bait. I would ask Kirk why he still supports such a baby, when anyone can see that Trump is a total snowflake who acts on impulse. I would also bring up Epstein.

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Anonymous #4 3w

If you see his booth, just walk along as normal and do not give it any special attention

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Anonymous #4 3w

What if I set up a booth across from him and just give away free stickers and blast music or smn?

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Anonymous OP 3w

And get a crowd around that booth larger than his?

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Anonymous OP 3w

It will not work (and this is time probably better spent in class/studying) The best thing for you/everyone else who agrees with you to do is to just leave him alone and go about your day

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Anonymous #4 3w

The smaller Kirk’s MAGA-pilled crowd, the better - just don’t pay him any mind

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Anonymous #3 3w

Ooo I like this “Charlie I wanted to bring up South Park, now you yourself did a good job of taking that in stride and I wanted to make sure I complemented you on that. However… the White House absolutely lost it over a few little jokes. Like these dastardly snowflakes can’t even take a joke from an irrelevant 20 minute cartoon. I took you as a man of strength and integrity. How can you still support the current White House based on their reaction to such a trivial matter?”

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Anonymous OP 3w

Charlie Kirk isn’t a good debater. He just parrots talking points and logical fallacies, knowing that his base will eat it up like chickens eating cat shit as it falls from the cat’s ass. His power doesn’t come from winning, it comes from feeding his audience’s bias. Logic, reason, and good debating will not prevent him from meeting this goal. Win or lose, it will only give him power. You want to beat him? Ignore him. He’s an ignoramus not worth your big brain study time. Don’t legitimize him.

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Anonymous OP 3w

If you do this, he will go on a minutes-long glaze fest about how Trump’s “bringing America back” and how that outweighs anything else

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Anonymous OP 3w

Oh study abroad? My guy ENJOY STUDYING ABROAD lol

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Anonymous #4 3w

Nah it’s a conference for my field lol, my parents want to pay for me to go but I feel bad bc they’ve already done so much for me

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Anonymous OP 3w

Haha that’s polite. I was going to say “Hey Charlie, I watched your reaction to the South Park episode about you. I saw you can take a joke, glad you have the maturity of at least a 20 year old. So my question is, why is Trump being such a baby about it?”

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Anonymous #7 3w

He might like that too much idk

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

Actually just makes u look like a clown but okay

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Anonymous #8 3w

You can’t legit debate these guys because they’re not interested in anything more than fishing for “own the libs” moments. Their career thrives off of it and nothing more, they’re not legitimate political commentators. I and others should refuse to treat them as such

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

If that’s the case, you’re giving them exactly what they want if you behave like a child

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Anonymous #8 3w

No, you’re not. Fart sounds blaring on speakers without a face to put to them doesn’t give him anything to work with. Kirk’s content is based off highlighting arguments with unprepared and riled up people who engage with him and then going “look at da librul logic!” That’s the kind of content that’s fun for his fanbase to engage with. They’re not gonna have fun with fart noises that blare over his “commentary.”

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

Or just based off of liberals kicking and screaming or acting like fools. Win either way. Try a mature approach maybe

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Anonymous #8 3w

You will literally never, ever win taking the high ground with these guys because, again, they clip things out of context and work it to their advantage. If all of those clips are drowned in nonsense he doesn’t have anything to work with. It doesn’t have to be fart noises lmao, it can be anything. Blare jazz music. Have country playing on one speaker and slave poetry on another. It doesn’t matter what so long as the content ends up unusable.

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Anonymous #10 3w

Remember: he and his organization have to pay travel costs to get to all these colleges, on top of camera operators and editors as well as Kirk himself. The worst possible outcome for them is to loose money. If they go to a campus and get no usable footage because someone held up a stopwatch, then that’s a financial loss for them. They paid all that money just to end up with nothing to show for it

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

Slam poetry*

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

You can literally watch full unedited segments. And it doesn’t matter how long the segment is, if someone is kicking and screaming they look like a child

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Anonymous #8 3w

You’re comparing the apple of “kicking and screaming” to the orange of “unusable content”. He wants liberal liberal anger, liberal freakouts over them trying to actually debate him because it makes him look smart and well put together by comparison, and his fans get off to that. Blaring nonsense that makes the content unusable doesn’t give him that opportunity. I don’t think those are comparable

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Anonymous #8 3w

You can watch the unedited segments, but is that what is being posted to all their social media pages? Or do you have to go looking for the unedited versions of everything? Sure, they might have an unedited version, but let’s not act like they prioritize it at all

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Anonymous #10 3w

If you want to be a real pain in the ass, get big one off of Amazon and just sit up front alongside every speaker with it. They can’t force you to take it down

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

It doesn’t matter tho. It still makes liberals look like fools, especially if they aren’t even trying to debate and are just throwing a fit. Y’all need to put down the shovel

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Anonymous #10 3w

This. Do you think his fans are out there watching the unedited content or are they gooning over the highlight reels he presents first and foremost to them?

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

I’m saying it doesn’t matter how short the reel is, if you are acting like a fool, you will be seen as one. Solve that problem by not acting like a fool. If u don’t wanna be a highlight reel be mature

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Anonymous #8 3w

On the contrary, I consider trying to legit debate these people the shovel. You could go to him with the most rock solid, air tight, foolproof argument in history and it won’t matter. It’ll end up as a brief portion of an unedited vid that his fans won’t watch and it’ll be cut entirely from the highlight reel. You’re not ever gonna win that cause he’s not interested in playing fair or honest from the start.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

I can tell you for a fact when I get TPUSA ads on social media it’s not the unedited version of stuff And the interesting thing is that it’s so much easier to just put two raw video feeds next to one another in a split screen format without any cuts, but they never do that for some reason

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Anonymous #8 3w

Are those highlight reels posted ever just the raw video feeds of each person or not?

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 3w

His fans get off to people actually trying to debate him and not getting far because they haven’t thought out an argument, that and people getting angry and yelling at him to fuck off is what they like to watch. They’re not gonna enjoy him trying to fire off quips and comebacks with fart noises in the background. Realistically, if that just became the norm at his public showings, he’d have to drop the idea and move onto something else.

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Anonymous #7 3w

Begs a question….

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Anonymous #12 3w

The worst part? Fuentes isn’t even a good debater. He’s scared for no reason

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Anonymous landtrust 3w

I mean I’ve seen a few of the debates. He’s competitive, probably the most unapologetic person I’ve ever seen since the current pres. That kind of stuff, along with charisma even when he’s wrong makes him far better than Kirk lol

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Anonymous #8 1w

So I guess we don’t have to think about this anymore huh

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 1w

We are all so naive

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 1w

I thought about this thread today :(

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