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xi.jinping

No, “socialism” (not socialism, but social democracy! Big difference) works there because they help exploit the global south and participate in unequal exchange
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Anonymous 3w

Social democracy could work without that if they just manufactured stuff at home

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

That’s not how capitalism works my guy

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

Social democracy is a mix of both

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

No, social democracy is just capitalism but with concessions that could easily be revoked when the bourgeois class deems it is necessary. As Stalin said, it is the moderate wing of fascism

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

Maybe in Germany but not today

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

No, this is how social democracy always is as a political structure. It goes beyond just Germany

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

Not exactly. You can just vote for someone who represents you. People just don’t have the courage to vote for something that’s not a democrat

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

And what parties in multiparty liberal democracies legitimately represent the interests of the working class? Give me some examples.

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

I’m not part of any party. I think there should be a populist party though

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

That wasn’t an answer to my question. I didn’t ask what party are you in. I asked, what parties legitimately represent the interests of the proletariat in a liberal democracy

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

I don’t know what party. But your question assumes the worker and the business owner can’t both be in the same party

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

Nope, not what I said either. A business owner can be part of the vanguard party, but it doesn’t represent his class interests (look at modern China). The reason you can’t name any of these parties is because they dont exist

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

There’s more to life than class interests

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

Yes but there isn’t much more to economics than class interests

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

But your relationship to others is more than economics

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

This entire conversation is about macroeconomics, not my personal social life lmfao

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

Okay so therefore when you base your entire government on “class interests” it doesn’t encompass reality correctly. Social democracy is much more accurate

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

How so?

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

Because it acknowledges there is no permanent contradiction between classes

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Anonymous replying to -> landtrust 3w

But there is, the interests of the bourgeois and proletarian classes are inherently contradictory in 99% of situations

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 3w

There’s not. Theres more to the people behind the class than the class and there’s a lot of things that are mutually beneficial

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