Anonymous OP 17h

also there should be free classes to learn the language. obviously they can still use their native language but just to help ppl get around easier, we need classes for conversational english, ones that help with understanding bureaucratic process, and general adaptation classes (if wanted/needed)

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Anonymous OP 17h

They should still be voluntary, nothing good has ever come from forced assimilation. Especially in a country founded for and run by immigrants

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Anonymous #2 17h

i was just in paris actually. got stared at a lot ofc (by men and women) but it was never dangerous like the media says. trash yes. danger no (this photo is in no way the norm tho. just the worst i saw it)

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Anonymous #1 17h

what should be forced is knowing new customs, not enforced to use them and never enforced to forget your own but i think ppl should come in wanting to be respectful (for example not staring since they know it makes us uncomfortable) and if they dont have that basic respect to want to try, that upsets me

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Anonymous OP 17h

I’m sorry but your comfort isn’t the end all be all though, you know? why is someone staring suddenly a sign of disrespect? what if they found you attractive? what if they thought you did something confusing? what if they’re looking at something behind you? this really is not that deep imo, and is definitely not worth risking the slippery slope of empowering a state to enforce a “cultural standard” if that makes sense.

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Anonymous #4 17h

especially since, as 1 said, this is inherently a nation created by, and consisting of, immigrants. it does not matter if we are born here, we are all able to trace our roots back and find a generation that immigrated here, unless we have ancestry with one of the indigenous tribes. it’s literally the “pulling the ladder up behind you” meme

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Anonymous #4 17h

its not pulling up the ladder to suggest they dont stare at people lol thats ridiculous

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Anonymous #4 17h

someone staring as been a sign of disrespect in the US for at least multiple generations. i have never known a time it wasnt if they find me attractive thats even worse. why is a 50+ year old man starring at me that hard and not breaking eye contact when i give back a creeped out look? why are 40+ year old women looking and shaking their heads at me for having my shoulders out in 90 degree weather?? that is rude and idc if its normal to them

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Anonymous OP 17h

its incredibly disrespectful to come into a new place and make people feel uncomfortable. when i visit other countries i learn their customs before going. i would expect the same effort if youre literally PERMANENTLY MOVING THERE

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Anonymous OP 17h

okay obviously that context changes my analysis a bit, but you’re acting as if that behavior is related to immigration and one’s culture instead of people just lacking common courtesy the shit you’re complaining about has literally nothing to do with immigration💀 and if anything, us Americans are far more guilty of that lack of common courtesy than most other places, as you’re sitting there talking about “culture” and assimilation😭

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Anonymous OP 17h

it honestly just feels like you’re just reaching for any excuse to vilify immigration lmfao.

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Anonymous OP 17h

like we have hella christian nationalists here that would love to see half of our population locked away or killed merely for our identity and, ironically, showing too much skin or some shit, but you’re talking about immigrants?

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Anonymous OP 17h

625 arrests 83 officers attacked Fireman lit on fire, woman got her face torched, both recorded Teachers injured Schools closed, 3 lit on fire Buses torched But ✨ danger no ✨

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Anonymous #2 17h

Perhaps you should consider that French forms of protest don’t care for your American sensibilities

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Anonymous OP 17h

✨ learning new customs should be forced ✨

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Anonymous #1 17h

Is this the “French” form of protest?

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Anonymous #2 17h

its very easy to avoid the protest areas idk what ur point is

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Anonymous #2 17h

bro what r u even saying

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Anonymous OP 16h

Oh you’re goofy af fr lol. That’s what you say to someone being lit on fire? It’s not a protest, as much as you want it to be

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Anonymous #5 16h

ive been traveling to europe a ton recently and loved it so much im moving there in the summer actually i was in france and hungary last week but ive been almost everywhere. iceland, russia, germany, france, italy, denmark, norway, england, austria, greece, and sweden

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Anonymous OP 16h

You and #1 can keep the suicidal empathy for yourselves, respectfully

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Anonymous OP 16h

Oh well you mentioned staring so I assumed you’d hate it 😭 though tbf none of the countries u went to are Balkan (aside from Greece but idk if they are considered Balkan) and the Balkan/slavic stare is deadly

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Anonymous #2 16h

see up until now i thought u were arguing w me that im not pro immigration enough lmao

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Anonymous #2 16h

and u said i was wrong for claiming europe is safe. it is. if u see a bunch of protesters maybe dont walk up to them especially as a random tourist. its very easy to avoid getting hurt in europe

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Anonymous OP 16h

Immediately assuming citizens are random tourists is wild lol. Bless your heart

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Anonymous #2 16h

wtf😭😭. IM the tourist. are you illiterate??

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Anonymous #2 16h

I’m confused what suicidal empathy

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Anonymous #2 16h

do u even know how this protest started? french teenagers are protesting their schooling conditions. things have gotten a little hectic but there are not vigilantes roaming streets causing trouble. the protests sre in select areas and if u want to avoid danger just dont walk those areas

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Anonymous #5 16h

suicidal empathy refers to the idea that u’ll suicidally let ur country/culture die/become worse off cause u have too much empathy for ppl immigrating here

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Anonymous OP 16h

No ik but like I don’t see that here lmaoo….. also protesting is like peak French

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Anonymous #5 16h

i met some serbians and slovanians actually in hungary. they were super chill. i only notice staring from middle eastern and indian people (no shade to them, just my experience). and the hungarian older men stare too but more like an emotionless “im dead inside” stare. and they stare at everything like that, not just people. they also stare at men just as much they do women

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Anonymous OP 16h

yk what my bad for coming at you OP, because 2 is a straight up psychopath

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Anonymous OP 16h

Homie, show me the French teenagers protesting anywhere. Unless you’re gonna tell me that the grown as dude lighting the woman on fire is a school student

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Anonymous #2 16h

bro yr own photo is all teenagers

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Anonymous OP 16h

Holy side step, yea no shit in that one.

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Anonymous #2 16h

“homie show me the french teenagers protesting anywhere”

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Anonymous OP 16h

Yea, not the ones who are recording someone on fire lmao

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Anonymous #2 16h

bro they literally are teenagers recording

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Anonymous OP 16h

I agreed. No shit, that’s why I said not the ones recording.

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Anonymous #2 16h

so you just wanna see that theyre protesting?? the whole protest started with them over school conditions. is that smth youre disputingv

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Anonymous OP 16h

There ya go, actual student protests vs the riots. But it’s not students in the riots lol

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Anonymous OP 16h

Like you claim it’s something that can be easily avoided till you’re attacked. Ya know the first picture you said that to

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Anonymous #2 16h

its very easily avoidable if u just dont go in those areas while theyre protesting. how are they gonna attack u if ur not there

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Anonymous #2 16h

protests always spawn riots cause in every country theres some people hoping and waiting for lawlessness. they will always find the protests

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Anonymous OP 16h

What if actual French citizens live there?

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Anonymous #2 16h

theyre not protesting in front of residential areas. theyre in the most public areas possible and by schools

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Anonymous OP 16h

Oh my fault, then people going to work? So none of those bbc coverages showing apartments is real?

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