Anonymous #3 2d

that’s Morel from Hunter x Hunter

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Anonymous #3 2d

Massive aura

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Anonymous #6 2d

I mean, every president has to lie or bs to the American people to some extent. Sorta the nature of having access to some of the most top secret stuff ever. But in terms of Presidents, FDR was overall one of the better ones at keeping things real with everyone

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Anonymous #3 2d

There’s a difference between lying to protect the public and lying to manipulate the public

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Anonymous #3 2d

But yeah fdr was based asf for it

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Anonymous #6 2d

He did put Japanese people in camps though 💀

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Anonymous #6 2d

I would argue that lying to protect the public and lying to manipulate the public might be the same thing. Is lying about warrantless surveillance protection or manipulation?

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Anonymous #7 2d

He caught it as a child, so no

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Anonymous #9 2d

You might be thinking of someone else. FDR was diagnosed with polio after a vacation when he was 39

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Anonymous #8 2d

Even then, he tried to make sure the public didn’t see the wheelchair. It’s possible this pic is staged and that’s why he’s leaning against the wall with a cane

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Anonymous #8 2d

Well this picture is from when he was 51, so

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Anonymous #7 2d

He had Polio all his presidency, but since disability was treated especially poorly in his time, they often would hide around it FDR had leg braces that could allow him to essentially lock his legs into place and “stand”. And in the public appearances where he “walked” - which was more of a hobble - he would often have Eleanor there walking beside him arms together to sorta mask he was actually reliant on her

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Anonymous #3 2d

He actually made a deal with the press since - in media circles - it was an open secret. All the pictures and footage they wanted as long as it was never of him walking or standing up/sitting down. You can look at archives, there’s very very few pictures of him in his wheelchair or of him hobbling, because any press photographer who tried to get a picture would literally have their camera snatched from their hands and stomped on by the secret service

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Anonymous #3 2d

We are both orange

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Anonymous #9 1d

Huh doesn’t that mean he’d have polio regardless then if he’d gotten it as a child or at 39?

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Anonymous #6 1d

He probably knew Peale harbor was going to happen beforehand and used it to get us into ww2…

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Anonymous #11 1d

Wow stop making the Trump admin sound good

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Anonymous #13 1d

His controls of the Depression flat out didn't work and the only reason he even managed to rebound it was bringing a war based economy into war, which he also managed horribly. The bad effects of his administration can be directly linked to his expansion of the federal government and internment of Japanese Americans while the good effects look suspiciously like luck.

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Anonymous #13 1d

I seriously have never heard any reason to even like him besides random people opining that he was a good president. He's not even the best Roosevelt.

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Anonymous #13 1d

Absolutely dumbfounding that he makes it into top 10 presidents lists as well

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Anonymous #13 1d

Yeah that’s just not true. GDP grew record 8-10% from ‘33 to ‘37 and his programs provided a social safety net for many Americans that otherwise would’ve been left to the wolves, while stopping a complete banking collapse that would’ve greatly weakened the country’s organizational capacity during the war. WW2 ended the depression as a live test of Keynesian economics, that’s not debated, but to say his management and programs didn’t work/were terrible is false

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Anonymous #12 1d

Main driver there was gold coming in from Europe because of political instability , not FDR's policy

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Anonymous #12 1d

Now tell me, what do you think was driving political instability in Europe from 1933-1937?

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Anonymous #12 1d

Also unemployment stayed relatively similar + FDR's programs actually destroyed jobs

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Anonymous #13 1d

lol Friedman? The gold inflow was a factor, but it only worked as a stimulus because FDR decoupled the dollar from gold. Without that policy shift, we would’ve stayed in a deflationary spiral regardless of how much gold came. It’s a massive stretch to say his programs destroyed jobs on net when he put millions to work building the very infrastructure that won the war.

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Anonymous #12 1d

It's not a massive stretch, he was out there destroying farms because they didn't follow monoculture crop systems

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Anonymous #12 1d

Plus in 1937 there was another recession which proves that his economic recovery plans were at best (assuming that they even helped during the 33-37 period) a short sighted attempt and at worst were just hindering the recovery

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Anonymous #13 1d

I’d agree that the AAA did a lot of stupid things, like slaughtering pigs while people were hungry. The monoculture point is actually reversed tho, the AAA was a response to the fact that monoculture cash-cropping had alr destroyed the soil and crashed markets. FDR’s later policies actually paid farmers to diversify their crops to stop the Dust Bowl. He just used the AAA as an inefficient sledgehammer to stop a price collapse that would’ve wiped out every farm in the Midwest

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Anonymous #13 1d

He gave an absolutely fire declaration of war against Japan though

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Anonymous #7 1d

Then died like the useless fuck he was

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Anonymous #13 1d

If I saw FDR in person today I would shoot him like a dog in the street

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Anonymous #13 1d

The 37 recession doesn't prove the New Deal failed, it actually shows that austerity killed the recovery before it was finished. The moment he tried to balance the budget and act like a fiscal conservative, the economy tanked. The recovery was literally built on that spending, and when he pulled the rug out to appease idiotic fiscal conservatives at the time, the floor fell through

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Anonymous #12 1d

He wouldn't have even experienced the 33-37 recovery if not for external factors, and I'd argue that he worsened the effect of the gold coming in by introducing instability and long term inflationary risk

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Anonymous #13 1d

If the New Deal was hindering the recovery all along, we wouldn't have seen the 9% GDP growth years leading up to 1937. The 37 crash was a self-inflicted wound caused by trying to pay for Social Security and balance the budget at the same time. It actually proved the Keynesian point that you can't stop the systems of gov spending until private investment is in full thrust. Imma be real it’s pretty clear all you’ve read on this is some Friedman & that you have some odd animus toward fdr

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Anonymous #13 1d

I don’t even like Roosevelt that much, actually disagree with some of the decisions and the long term impacts we are now dealing with—but you’re being completely unfair and misrepresenting things. Shooting him? Really? This is not serious at all

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Anonymous #12 1d

That fucker can cry me a river while he unjustly imprisons entire classes of people

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Anonymous #12 1d

Actually no, you're right. Woodchipper feet first

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Anonymous #13 1d

Also it wasn't short-sighted; it was experimental. No one in history had ever tried to manage a collapsed industrial economy of that scale. The fact that the economy rebounded instantly as soon as he ramped spending back up for the war (and the late-30s rearmament) shows that the medicine worked—the 37 crash was just what happened when he stopped taking the medicine too soon

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Anonymous #12 1d

So you agree that the real solution he posed was bringing a war based economy into war? Lol

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Anonymous #13 1d

I’ve alr answered the good point. The only instability FDR introduced was for the wealthy elites who weren't used to being regulated. For the average American, the FDIC and Social Security created more stability than the “free market” had provided in a generation. Calling it luck that the US became a global safe haven while FDR was at the helm is a massive coincidence to swallow

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Anonymous #13 1d

Herbert Hoover get off yikyak

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Anonymous #12 1d

It does look suspiciously like luck that he is just thrust into this situation right

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Anonymous #2 1d

Hoover wasn't great but at least he wasn't putting people in camps

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Anonymous #13 1d

Yes they loved Hoover so much they named towns after him during the depression

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Anonymous #7 1d

They loved FDR so much that his name is a euphemism for becoming a vegetable

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Anonymous #13 1d

What’s the euphemism? I’ve never heard it

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