Anonymous #1 5d

The Netherlands studied it below. The key is western vs non-western. It absolutely confirms that when accounting not just for taxes paid but for welfare consumed, native-westerners are net contributors while non-westerners were net negatives. https://docs.iza.org/dp17569.pdf

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Anonymous OP 5d

Look at this. Those blue countries are net contributors (white people) and red countries are net negatives

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Anonymous #1 5d

“there’s bigger fraud” like election fraud you assure me doesnt exist? What’s bigger fraud than direct cash payments for fraudulent businesses (buying voters) who then turn and kickback (donate) to the political party / politicians who oversee the continued expansion of fraud?

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Anonymous OP 5d

An example of bigger fraud that’s far more egregious than a few million dollars in fraudulent businesses is Elon musks cash for votes scheme in swing states last year that preferentially treated conservative votes that had a direct impact on the election. Not even to mention billions in taxpayer money being used in contracts to maga campaign allies which is plain corruption at the highest level

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Anonymous OP 5d

Okay I think there might be some miscommunication here. How do you define election fraud? I think a lot of republicans mean it as the addition of fake votes to inflate numbers, but I’m interpretation it here as superPACs laundering election funds to politicians. One blames voters, the other blames larger bodies. @#1 as well how do you define election fraud?

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Anonymous OP 5d

Of course brand immigrants that come here for asylum aren’t going to be fully productive until they are established, the same claims youre making about these “western and non western” differences were made for Irish and Italian immigrants 100 years ago who came here, were not considered white, were poor with very high crime rates including infamously notorious organized crime, yet eventually became a strong part of American society. Should we have deported all Italians?

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Anonymous #1 5d

Yeah man sure. Keep telling yourself the reason america sucks is because of the single most productive person on the planet being rewarded for prodctivity - not “because of” a few subsidies - his wealth is mostly in stocks whose value is derived from the price it’s publicly traded at - or people’s perceived value of his company. never saw any evidence of “cash for votes” in elon’s direction, but have seen James O’keefe talking to a staffer for Ilhan Omar talking about taking cash for votes.

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Anonymous OP 5d

and the fraud in MN is more than “a few million” because the Gov documents themselves report paint >800k per year per daycsre

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Anonymous OP 5d

Ah okay. You’re not here to argue in good faith. That’s unfortunate :/

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Anonymous #2 5d

I definite it as all of the above and there is more than an abundance of evidence at this point to convince me that it’s done by both party’s both ways

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Anonymous OP 5d

You’re clearly just cherry picking normal immigration statistics and applying them to race. Are Italians and Irish white and western to you? Because they 100% didn’t used to be considered as such back when they were the problem causing immigrants. Assimilation takes generations. Immigrants assimilate to America and America assimilates to the immigrants our culture is FLUID. That’s what sets us apart from those Euros who have completely diff immigration issues

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Anonymous OP 5d

Okay so you recognize both parties do it, why are you only angry about one of them? Why do you refuse to see the flaws of the other?

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Anonymous #2 5d

Because 90% of it is the welfare state and only one party consistently demands the ever expansion of the welfare state while simultaneously importin a bunch of people incompatible who are net negatives on society How do you guys think we went from $2T to almost $40T in debt from obama -> trump 2.0 And only one side is propsing the solution which is remigration

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Anonymous OP 5d

Everyone knows Dems are corrupt and incompetent, liberals know this more than anyone. MAGA and republicans are far far more corrupt than the worst dem and yet conservatives bend over backwards to deny deny deny

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Anonymous #1 5d

Our culture is not fluid. This country was like 99% white in 99% of places after we landed on the moon

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Anonymous OP 5d

The thing that’s changed that you note that’s interesting is that when faced with defining a net contributor you immediately revert to 1850-1920 racism to prove your point

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Anonymous OP 5d

Wanna pull up a source for that?

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’m sorry what 😭

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Anonymous OP 5d

no??? Our culture is fluid and has changed significantly with every mass immigration that has happened. That’s undeniable

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 5d

It’s not about “nominal” most. It’s about net contribution to the country per capita by race. Lot’s of tricky concepts there so lmk if you want help breaking down what that means.

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Anonymous OP 5d

U realize that it’s the same racism…right? U wanna try and pretend these racist laws were soooo long ago. Civil rights movement was in the 60s. My parents were born in the 80s…

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Anonymous OP 5d

That doesn’t answer my question. Why do white ppl pay the most in taxes?

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Anonymous #1 5d

This is simply and palpably untrue. You literally almost made TIM WALZ THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES🤣🤣

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Anonymous OP 5d

Like I’m still hungry asf that was a big ass nothing burger

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Anonymous OP 5d

Dude… this is embarrassing. Are you like,,, on drugs or something? Like you’re barely coherent atp

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’d rather prefer Walz as VP than the pedophile who watched two men allegedly murder a new born and throw it in a lake. Just saying

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Anonymous #2 5d

Yeah watch the gif on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:White_America_(of_one_race)_from_1960_to_2020.gif

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’m only pointing out that you’re saying the same things about these new immigrants that people used to say in the 1850s-1920s. Again it takes time for these immigrants to become settled and when that happens America becomes stronger than ever

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Anonymous OP 5d

Tim Walz??? WAY better than that fucking sycophant Vance who campaigns against third world immigration while having a Hindu Indian wife and talks down and abandons his Appalachian background while admitting that he spread completely fake news about immigrants eating dogs.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Omg, African countries can’t contribute a whole lot in taxes because they're poor because of western imperialism?!? Who would've fuckin thought. Ur the next Einstein buddy ur sooo smart dude.

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 5d

I literally could care less if you call me a racist “shield of democracy” i want every fraudster, thief, illegal alien deported and every politician who benefited or aided or abetted or continued the expansion guilty of treason and sentenced to the chair

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Anonymous OP 5d

Cool cool, so you want Trump gone too right? Right???

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Anonymous OP 5d

Back in the day the Klan said white America is being destroyed by catholic immigrants since they weren’t considered white. The klan was very powerful then

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Anonymous OP 5d

I literally never called u a racist lmfao but a hit dog gone holler

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Anonymous OP 5d

The entire Trump administration would be on the chair by those words

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Anonymous OP 5d

There are a lot of causes to differences in contribution other than just “race” you’re just a racist so race is all you see

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Anonymous OP 5d

Are you sure?

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