Anonymous #2 18h

I’m truly curious, what is the alternative to Ukraine defending itself militarily? Wouldn’t Russia just annex it? It’s my understanding that Zelenskyy has tried to have peace talks.

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Anonymous #3 18h

Zelenskyy is a Washington puppet

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Anonymous #1 18h

Could you explain?

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Anonymous #1 18h

Not a very useful one. Cut the strings and leave him in a box.

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Anonymous #3 18h

I’m all for Ukraine having sovereignty. But the manner they fought this war (I was in the military industrial complex for a substantial amount of time after my undergrad before grad school) appears to have been as inefficient and abhorrent as possible. A meat grinder of conscription, mass propaganda, false flags, and black market deals to sell US arms to foreign agents. One USA strike group could have crippled Russian infrastructure in 48 hours with weapons systems outdated by a decade. 1/2

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Anonymous #3 18h

2/2 it genuinely seems like they choreographed the war at a strategic level to siphon money, expend arms, and kill off as many fight age men as possible.

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Anonymous #2 18h

Fighting age men* The level of hubris and foolishness these “leaders” seem to possess is near unfathomable.

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Anonymous #3 18h

Could you understand

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Anonymous #1 17h

Best not to be discourteous when people are genuinely curious.

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Anonymous #2 17h

They’re not

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Anonymous #2 11h

Again i dont gaf about either country i just like twitter not having bots

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Anonymous #1 11h

Idk Ukraine vs Russia just feels like two morons fighting idc what happens

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Anonymous #1 11h

I am, but if you want to make assumptions then go ahead

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Anonymous #2 11h

I initially thought Biden only sent weapons because we didn’t want soldiers to die in the war, could you maybe help me understand that? I’m not sure how informed my perspective really is, but it seems like Ukraine has been holding their ground against Russia

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Anonymous #3 11h

By the time my family got to Kiev the parking situation around govt buildings was lined with Bentley’s and porches. They took the missiles, guns, artillery, etc… sometimes left it in its package, and resold it to various groups trying to enter Ukraine controlled ports around the Black Sea. I was sending my personal kit (that I used in Iraq as a contractor) to my cousins because they didn’t have proper armament, the government sold all the best stuff to foreign countries. We send all that 1/2

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Anonymous #3 11h

2/2 stuff to Ukraine, didn’t send anyone to audit it, or make sure it got in the hands of the soldiers on the front line. Same goes with money. Much of it went straight into the hands of fat corrupt politicians. Worse yet it seems our own, USA media was in on some kinda deal there. Their coverage showed photo ops of staged battles (there were and are real battles) gun sights on backwards, vehicles they said were Russian but were Ukrainian, impact zones with burned out/exploded cars and not 2/3

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Anonymous #3 11h

3/3 a shattered window in sight. All the while Zelensky parades around like he’s in the thick of it, pridefully soaking up the attention like he’s some kind of war hero himself. I would love to have a conversation with him 1 on 1 before whomever else gets to him. It’s a bit of a pipe dream, I know, but I’ve got a ton of questions and he’s got an immense amount of my families blood on his hands.

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Anonymous #3 11h

Likely why Russia laid claim to chrimea early. It’s a medium to ship anything in and out of the country. I maintain that part is still Ukrainian but, as far as a strategic objective, when this whole thing kicked off 2014 (roughly), that was the center of the controversy.

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Anonymous #3 11h

What’s even more interesting studying the conflict was it was getting HOT quickly just before the 2016 election, Trump gets elected, and it’s as if all the arms deals on the table disappeared, (not that I think Trump caused that, I bet it was more of a “we don’t know if he will play ball) the war goes semi cold for four years, then boom, it goes hot again 2020.

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Anonymous #2 11h

That’s crazy, I’m sorry to hear that. The media narrative surrounding Zelenskyy has been incredibly positive. Is there anything you could recommend for further reading? I wasn’t aware of any of this and I wonder if anyone is reporting on it.

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Anonymous #2 11h

I still remember this “war correspondent” the USA media had who was a “subject matter expert” on the war posting fucking TikTok’s near an artillery line. He was a Navy E8 sigint guy who referred to himself as “just an old spy” but when they show him in his kit in Iraq his stuff is all fucked up, mags set up in a position he can’t lay in the prone position. They had a fucking poser as their “subject matter expert” doing updates and discussions in front of the American people. Absolute disgrace.

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Anonymous #3 11h

If you’re near Salt Lake City and want to go ski’ing apparently that’s where most of the Ukrainian politicians party in the USA (if you’re inclined to write about what you find yourself). This is still a bit early for people to be writing books about what they experienced from the inside but I imagine we will see podcasters and books sooner than later.

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Anonymous #3 11h

This is something I found (after some digging), though it’s paywalled: https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2025/11/zelensky-ukraine-war-russia-corruption/684962/ There was also a deleted MSN article. But it seems many US journalists aren’t reporting on it.

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Anonymous #3 11h

But that’s a GREAT question. People fear embarrassment more than they fear death. I don’t imagine much of our media wants to get their own faces shoved in the dirt they laid out themselves. They will have to eventually so it’s probably better they start ripping the bandaid off now.

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Anonymous #3 11h

Good catch. Yeah that’s another reason it had my blood boiling. Prior to 2020 the Ukrainian government was known to be one of the most corrupt in the world. Several articles, studies, peer reviewed research papers, cited by the UN, NATO (I’m not a fan of either, separate reasons) then the war starts, and I saw the same thing as you #3, all of that buried and replaced with a ton of positive coverage of Zelensky and stuff to drum up fervor and support of what was being called “the most 1/2

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Anonymous #2 11h

Corrupt European government” back in 2019. Poof. Gone. It was like being gaslit by multi-billion dollar corporations. I almost left America and was going to just go live on an island or in the woods in some third world country and just wait for everyone to die. Long story why I didn’t, but it kept happening.

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Anonymous #3 11h

No joke, I would come back from work, whatever country, I lived in a college town at the time (not the college I’m currently studying at) and the news would be reporting on the general thing that was going on, but just lying their asses off and I would have people be like, “that’s not what’s happening in Kurdistan!” And I’m like “I was just there! My team is literally the source of the news story. Here are photos!”

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Anonymous #2 8h

I honestly think it has a lot to do with anti-Russia sentiment. Obviously if Russia is allowed to annex Ukraine, they will not stop at other borders, but between Putin and Zelenskyy you have a David and Goliath type story that makes for very good media. It is interesting how different the optics have been between conflicts America is financing (i.e. the genocide in Gaza and the war in Ukraine). As always, the ones who suffer most are civilians, whether Palestinian, Ukrainian, or Israeli.

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Anonymous #3 7h

You bring up a good point about the pitch being tempting to frame it like a David and Goliath thing, it was as if it was enough of a tempting situation everyone with any bit of ability to play their sick little game, wanted in on it. I’m not a fan of Putin either. Seems like a similar situation going on but from the opposite end. Russia already has enough problems with alcoholism and a notoriously corrupt oligarchy. Sending their fighting age men to die in a prolonged trench war also seems 1/2

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Anonymous #2 7h

2/2 like one of the most foolish things they could commit to. The only difference between Putin’s tactics and what I’m aware of their warfare capabilities are, is I would have cut the power to Keiv and turned all their porches/Bentleys into flaming scrap. Remember all that fuss over depleted uranium rounds? They don’t high order and create nuclear clouds. It’s essentially a hypersonic dart. US media made it seem like there was going to be a nuclear war because Russia had 1980s anti-tank tech 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #2 7h

It’s very clear Putin expected this to be a short war. There must be some level of sunken cost fallacy at play because he refuses to withdraw. I’m curious as to what you think about Ukraine’s recent tactical strikes on Russian refineries and data centers? Targeting critical infrastructure seems like a smart plan.

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