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it doesn’t matter if she said it was consensual. she can consent and it STILL would be rape because she was INCAPACIATATED. jesus fuck can schools make consent a mandatory class in undergrad???
Jane Doe literally texted one of the fraternity brothers saying everything was consensual and that she had a good time. This was days after. Just because she ended up regretting it later doesn’t mean it’s rape. They shouldnt’ve even had to write the essay
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Anonymous 18h

its not a course but im pretty sure a lot (maybe not most or all) of schools require incoming students to watch a video and complete some basic quiz or something about consent and relationships. maybe these shits havent had to do that or they just didnt pay attention or anything

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Anonymous 15h

But the guys were just as intoxicated too so did she rape them then?

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Anonymous 15h

Technically, in New York, it’s not currently bc she was voluntarily intoxicated. But they’re closing that loophole this year which is probably why she’s suing them now to force public pressure on reopening it now that the loophole is closed

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Anonymous 11h

Yeah it's apparently literally quantum physics per your description

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Anonymous 13h

But there was also in her written statement that she took more drugs to purposefully pass out? Like I know the situation is messy but let’s not forget that she was also in on it

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 18h

i remember doing that and i honestly thought it was bullshit. nothing about mine mentioned intoxication or anything.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 18h

really? damn then i guess the schools are failing like crazy bc thats like extremely basic info

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 18h

yeah no mine literally goes “don’t give her the tea if she doesn’t want tea” like what 💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15h

the two intoxicated individuals were too tired to perform so they went to bed.

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 15h

i know that law and i called the governor to have it removed because its a bullshit law. i’m glad they’re closing that loophole

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 14h

was she even voluntarily toxicated? they were giving her ketamine after she was already drunk, and then more ketamine after that i thought

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 14h

Yeah, but she was drunk on her own choices, she voluntarily drank before ever going ever. So according to the way the law is currently written, it’s a hard case to argue. Again hence why it’s being closed and she’s putting pressure on them now to reopen (I assume)

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13h

yeah no she’s cooked. but they still fucked up by engaging in this behavior ngl

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13h

For sure yeah, it’s just honestly like the whole bill cosby thing and Harvey Weinstein thing in Hollywood, like everyone knows this kind of thing happens at Greek life but we still allow Greek life to happen because they are a large school donation bloc

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 13h

i saw a post of a girl who was forced (for lack of a better word) to have sex with two co-frat members as part of her sorority. like it’s fucking insane

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 13h

Yeah it’s really shitty and there’s always stories about this kind of shit, but will universities every ban them no cus it’s always like some big shots son or daughter and they donate millions to the school

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3m

consent to have sex with two people is NOT the same as consent to have those people call multiple others and hold her down and force themselves on her, nor is it consent have your body advertised as up for grabs to 50 people, nor is it consent to have people fuck your unconscious body. Jesus fucking christ. shame on you.

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