Anonymous #1 8w

we can only hope 😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 8w

🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Anonymous #4 8w

biden's four years were nowhere near constantly acting like an unstable dictator who's now trying to distract from the worst pedophile coverup in history

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Anonymous #10 8w

Pretty sure checks and balances are still applicable for each administration as much as you’d refuse to believe. I’m fairly certain there were plenty of other politicians from both sides of the political spectrum on that list (which has no credible evidence of existing btw in the context people are making it out to be). Name calling Trump a dictator is like calling Biden a communist. Doesn’t make sense and is just inaccurate.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Trump has literally ignored direct orders from the Supreme Court, multiple federal judges, and now has free reign to do whatever he wants, and judges can’t even perform an injunction in most cases

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Anonymous #12 8w

Read it an weep

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Anonymous #4 8w

You are so inaccurate. Biden didn’t utilize EOs to the precedent trump has. Biden pushed through multiple bipartisan bills that benefitted all Americans. Trump is doing everything he can to divide the country. You can’t compare the two outside of their physical and mental declines and even that trump is doing worse then biden

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Anonymous #4 8w

Not the ai summary 😭

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Anonymous #13 8w

More reliable than TikTok bs y’all just devour tbh 🤓

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Anonymous #1 8w

I agree that Trump is abusing EOs but the point is that the Legislature and Judiciary branches very much have equal power to the Executive branch and have turned away plenty EOs and deemed some unconstitutional. That was my point…

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Anonymous #13 8w

Bland response with no redeemable value. But you go girl 💅

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Anonymous #7 8w

lowkey mike johnson might be the worst case scenario , he’s actually smart

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Anonymous #14 8w

He’s smart but isn’t charismatic. Nothing would get done.

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Woah buddy

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Anonymous #4 8w

Bro just made his Freudian slip :/ and the other powers have been TRYING to turn away the orders but he’s been forcing them through regardless, have you been paying any attention to actual news? He’s ignoring literal court orders and legal requirements and not in the legal ways either. And irregardless of the legality he’s supporting ultra nationalist/fascist agendas and employing racism to try to solve our problems. His policies are inhuman and his actions are widely illegal

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Anonymous #2 8w

Obama has more deportations on record.

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Anonymous #4 8w

And significantly less American citizens being detained/deported, civil disrest, and didn’t have a pedo bff, among MANY others

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Anonymous #2 8w

The deportations currently happening are for undocumented immigrants meaning they are not citizens which is a federal crime. Same as for the Obama administration. Civil unrest is not an actual issue.

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Anonymous #2 8w

I mean if you wanna go the “obamas worse” route I can go there but I’ll promise you won’t like how it turns out… Trump has less deportations with more masked/unmarked arrests (terrorism), more abuse of court systems (corruption), more removal of immigration rights (immoral intent/unamerican), detaining American citizens/legally here immigrants (literal crimes), more deportations without trials (literal crimes), you WANT me to keep going or are you gonna change the subject like you trumpies do?

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Anonymous #4 8w

Not a federal crime but a civil infraction you ONVIOUSLY have no clue what you’re talking about because that’s a simple google search 🤣 like this has been debunked to infamous levels my guy

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Anonymous #2 8w

I thought google search wasn’t enough to warrant credibility 🤔

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Anonymous #4 8w

And there are plenty of deportations of legal immigrants that literally are following the systems played out for them, yes there are policy changes about new immigrants being turned away but there are long time legally here immigrants being illegally removed and deported without being given basic confirmation of their legal status. There’s no due process occurring and that’s ACTUALLY illegal

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Anonymous #4 8w

Bro can’t read either, the other guy said google ai isn’t a good idea not google in general…

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Anonymous #2 8w

Bit of a stretch

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Anonymous #4 8w

Bit of a dumbass

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Anonymous #4 8w

If that’s the case then how so?

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Anonymous #15 8w

You got me 🤓

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Anonymous #2 8w

“The Supreme Court, however, has suggested that the extent of due process for aliens present in the United States ‘may vary depending upon [the alien’s] status and circumstance.’ For instance, at times the Court has indicated that at least some of the constitutional protections to which an alien is entitled may turn upon whether the alien has been admitted into the United States or developed substantial ties to this country. Thus, there is some uncertainty regarding the extent to which…

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Anonymous #4 8w

…due process considerations constrain Congress’s exercise of its immigration power with respect to aliens within the United States.” https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-3/ALDE_00013736/

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Anonymous #4 8w

So there’s a grey area when it comes to due process rights and illegal immigrants and is circumstantial. I can agree that some arrests are unwarranted, but I believe many arrests are warranted.

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Anonymous #4 8w

There’s no grey area for due process. If you are within the US jurisdiction you have the constitutional right to sue process. Regardless of you being a citizen or not. If you wanna reduce the amount of illegal immigrants, why not increase the amount of judges in the immigration system. Most of the illegals are asylum seekers and they have went through the correct process

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Anonymous #1 8w

They can’t be illegal and have gone through the correct avenues. That’s counterintuitive. Court cases have indicated that there is not a 100% guarantee of due process and is represented in the selection I presented above.

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Anonymous #4 8w

*correct processes. At that point, they are just immigrants not illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous #4 8w

I understand that. But that’s most of the people being deported. They are legal immigrants but don’t have citizenship.

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Anonymous #1 8w

If that’s the case, then I sympathize with that point. I’m not convinced that is most cases however.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Also, 1.9% of the people being deported are due to alleged criminal activity. Do you not find an issue with this?

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Anonymous #1 8w

Additionally, your 5th amendment quote is misleading. Aliens are allowed a hearing if they were lawfully admitted/established strong ties in the US. Along with criminal status and time detained during removal proceedings are all contributing factors. So overall, aliens have the same due process rights unless they have been convicted of a crkme

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Anonymous #1 8w

The fifth amendment is what it is, but it’s the courts’ execution of it that sets the precedents for determining what due process laws are valid or not. The outcomes have differed which indicates that it is not 100% guaranteed. Entering the US illegally is a criminal conviction

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Anonymous #4 8w

Incorrect. It’s a civil infraction. The same as a speeding ticket. By that notion, should all Americans with a speeding ticket be questioned regarding their legal status? Or just the Hispanics? What I stated was based off of the courts rulings. I just worded it in a way that actually makes sense to the common person

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Anonymous #1 8w

There are over 10,000 criminal convictions recorded for illegal entry into the US alone. Assault, burglary, arson, etc is all included on that list as well

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Anonymous #4 8w

For 2024-YTD

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Anonymous #4 8w

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-alien-statistics

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Anonymous #4 8w

Yeah so that wasn’t my claim. I support the removal of criminal aliens. However, the vast majority of deportees aren’t criminal aliens. Seeing as all deportations cases only 185,411 are due to criminal means (1.9%).

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Anonymous #1 8w

This is found in trac reports. Let’s make sure you read my comments clearly next time since you got upset that I didn’t earlier

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Anonymous #1 8w

They’ve proven they can’t read comment correctly, ofc they can’t read facts or reports correctly either

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Anonymous #1 8w

70,000 of the 100,000 recorded deportations involve an illegal alien with criminal convictions

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Anonymous #4 8w

That’s according to a CBS review of internal government data

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Anonymous #4 8w

I just looked at said review. It states in the review that under 20,000 of those 100,000 have committed the following: sex offenses, SA, homicide, kidnappers, assault, or gang/terrorist members. So we still have 80% being deported due to traffic tickets or immigration issues which I already stated are both civil not criminal offenses.

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Anonymous #1 8w

It’s stated that those are criminal convictions. The lower percent regards violent crimes that you’re mentioning.

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Anonymous #1 8w

Again, let’s make sure we accurately cite and understand the articles we utilize. So your 70,000 is wrong as it states one sentence after “however, most of the data shows that most of the documented infractions were traffic or immigration offenses.”

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Anonymous #4 8w

Nope. You are not accurately citing the article

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They are being deported because they are Hispanic. Why aren’t the undocumented Europeans and middle easterners being deported at such a high rate? It’s not because they are here “legally”

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Anonymous #1 8w

Traffic violations can be civil or criminal depending. Going 20+ mph over in a posted speed zone constitutes criminal violation. Just because it’s a traffic violation doesn’t mean it’s automatically civil. If it’s a parking citation that’s a civil offense and so on

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Anonymous #4 8w

I am accurately citing the article whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Data I am using from the article is what it is

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Anonymous #4 8w

Those are criminal CONVICTIONS. Meaning they were processed through the court system and labeled as criminal. I thought you guys were experts on convictions with Trump’s past ones. Is Trump a criminal?

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Anonymous #4 8w

20+ mph over is criminal in some states (arizona for example) but i’m my state of ohio it’s 30+ mph over, or 100 mph, which ever comes first doesn’t matter at all for the argument tbh but i just felt like being nitpicky

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Anonymous #14 8w

So it is probable for traffic violations to be criminal as stated in the article I accurately cited.

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Anonymous #4 8w

There is no shot you think 70,000 people being deported have went 20+ above the speed limit while they are undocumented. immigrants undocumented and documented are statistically less accurate to commit civil or criminal crimes. You aren’t accurately citing said article since it denounces the likelihood of 70,000 criminal citations.

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Anonymous #1 8w

Trump isn’t the issue in this conversation but yes he is a criminal since he is a convicted felon

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Anonymous #1 8w

Less likely not accurate lol

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Anonymous #1 8w

They aren’t all traffic related for sure, but the fact of the matter is that they are criminally convicted whatever the case may be. That’s what the data is representing. A small percentage is violent crime.

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Anonymous #1 8w

If that’s the case then why aren’t these people also considered criminal?

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Anonymous #4 8w

Except the DHS spokesperson refuses to describe the nature of said “criminal convictions”. So we don’t know if they are truly criminal convictions or not. Furthermore, this administration said they were going after the “worst of the worst” offenders. You have now moved the goalposts again. You can admit that you are racist and don’t like Hispanics if you want. It would make this conversation easier for you

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Anonymous #1 8w

Additionally, from this article, 60% of the people currently held in ICE detention centers do not have a criminal record. Why are they being held?

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Anonymous #1 8w

I’m not racist and love my Hispanic friends and they even agree with the sentiment that these illegal immigrants (that are convicted criminals) should be arrested and/or deported. The goal is to remove the worst of the worst and they have upheld that goal with MS13 gang members being apprehended. That doesn’t mean that other criminals are out of the administrations sights.

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Anonymous #4 8w

As I stated before I agree with the actual criminal convictions being deported. Why are people with speeding tickets being deported? Why not spend the tax payer dollars on improving the immigration process so these immigrants can get papers

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Anonymous #1 8w

Because enough tax payer dollars go them as it is and more additional spending would inflate our national debt (which democrats just made a huge fuss about) and taxes per person would increase substantially which most sane people do not want for their own personal lifestyles.

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Anonymous #4 8w

Yup you don’t know what your talking about. Immigrants don’t receive any benefits. However they do pay taxes. In 2022 they paid almost 60 billion and received no federal benefits

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Anonymous #4 8w

I agree that the immigration system needs to be revised. My Croatian professor’s family spent 10 years going through the process correctly while tens of thousands of Mexican migrants entered illegally. Is that fair to those foreigners in order to immigrate?

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Anonymous #1 8w

So it’s not the financial strain since they only benefit the federal government. Let’s try again

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Anonymous #1 8w

You’re blatantly ignoring the point of the National debt being inflated if we were to spend more on it

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Anonymous #4 8w

No I’m not. We just made ICE the highest funded law enforcement agency. We take said funds from their increased budget and transfer them towards immigration reform I.e. more judges to listen to immigration cases

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Anonymous #1 8w

Should we allow equal opportunity to all who wishes to immigrate to the US?

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Anonymous #4 8w

Elaborate wym by this

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Anonymous #1 8w

Should South American, European, Asian, and Pacific countries have the same equal opportunity to immigrate to the US as Central American Countries?

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Anonymous #4 8w

Yes, I feel that is quite obvious what I’m for

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