Anonymous basedpaperbasket 4w

No u see I can’t worry about my ability to not get shot in the streets because that doesn’t matter when we still have capitalism which is totally the cause for that It’s much more important that I just shut up and listen to more political theory instead of try to survive in my current system 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous basedpaperbasket 4w

socialism would, at the very least, allow every trans person the healthcare they need, for example. that solves the medical issues trans people face. but yeah, socialism isn’t going to solve every single social issue we have, that would still take a ton of work to accomplish.

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Anonymous OP 4w

what? idk if you got what I meant, I might have not explained clearly enough

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

U need to remember that even with socialism that transphobic people can still work in the government and that healthcare still relies on what they say Some maga figure rises to power under that idea of how to free trans people and u end up losing all hrt 🤷‍♀️ We already see it in systems in which the state can’t control giving government control wouldn’t help long term just in theory

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

maybe I misunderstood OP’s post but what I meant was that the economic part of any political ideology is rarely inextricably linked to the other parts, it’s not like mixing and matching them would always be contradictory or nonsensical if that makes any sense

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Anonymous basedpaperbasket 4w

yeah i understand what they were saying and i was simply saying that socialism would most likely be better at keeping trans people alive through accessible healthcare for all, which isn’t as much a social issue as it is a public health one, so i was ultimately agreeing with you both. they didn’t even agree with me there so i don’t think they’re open to hearing anything positive about socialism lol.

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Anonymous OP 4w

i mean yeah, that’s a fair point, but you’d lose your job in a socialist society if you don’t treat every patient’s needs accordingly. they do that in cuba. you’re allowed to be more selective in the type of care you give in a for-profit medical system. public healthcare also isn’t specifically socialist, capitalist countries have it too and trans people enjoy a better quality of life in nations with it from what i understand, capitalist or not. think of a scandinavian country, for example.

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

No trust me on this one America is weirdly the gold standard for quality of life as a trans person Especially since in all of those countries with easier to access healthcare there are often other restrictions put on trans people and how they are allowed to live their lives at risk of either jail if it’s a transphobic country or just losing healthcare it’s a kinda chill country America is only nice because u can just transition for $75 a month no insurance or any doctor checks needed 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous OP 4w

you can look up how good trans and just generally queer people have it in denmark or sweden. there’s definitely something to aspire to there. but you’re just not going to see my side of things and that’s okay i guess lol. you don’t even want socialized healthcare, that’s insane to me. you’d transition for free lol.

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Anonymous OP 4w

i’m not going to dispute your experiences but you also won’t hear me out at all, so goodbye lol.

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

I’m not saying I don’t want socialized healthcare I’m saying that wouldn’t at all solve the problems trans people face I have Swedish friends who randomly got denied service and access to hrt because their doctor thought they weren’t trans enough anymore

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Anonymous OP 4w

i never said it would solve them all, but it would be better for all trans people, right? you forget in america that people have no access to transition at all, even if you do…right? you do realize that?

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

Please specify what u mean by that because everyone has access since we are the only country not to regulate diy And if u mean economically that is a less common problem than being denied the ability to transition by doctors

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Anonymous OP 4w

not everyone can DIY and it isn’t always the safest thing to do. you have to know this, right? like come on now lol. i don’t even know what you’re saying in your second point lol. you can be denied the ability to transition by doctors in america as well, it’s actually a pretty common thing lol.

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Anonymous woodyguthrie 4w

Yeah it’s equally common everywhere since everyone follows the same regulations but literally the only thing stopping u from diy is having $75 a month Not to mention it is that safe Literally just as safe as getting hrt normally

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Anonymous OP 4w

there’s political theory about social issues. i hate when people say that like socialism will solve everything but im still very much a leftist. most leftists (in my experience) don’t believe you can just economics your way out of everything. but you also are not going to get shot in the street as a trans person and i fear it would actually be worth your time to spend more time reading or listening to political thought from queer and trans people to get a better grasp on what queer oppression is

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Anonymous #3 4w

Honey… I live with queer oppression… Murder of trans people was already high and has been sky rocketing I mean sure if u would prefer u could talk about me pretending to be a guy to find employment since most coworkers are transphobic or constant verbal harassment or the times I’ve gotten beat up for hitting on a guy

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Anonymous OP 4w

diying hrt js not exactly as safe as going to a medical profession and you should not tell people that online. it’s pretty safe if you’re taking estrogen but getting diy testosterone is very very risky. and even in the best case scenario it is just less safe to not have a trained medical professional to help you with reading test results, how to safely inject, dosage levels, managing side effects etc. there are good harm reduction resources out there point people to those instead

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Anonymous OP 4w

yeah but queer oppression is not getting shot in the street. the violence endured is different than that in some substantive and important ways and i know you’re being hyperbolic but when you live in a country where some minority groups are actually shot in the street it’s kind of bad practice to embellish like that and take away from the people who have actually been killed by public extrajudicial executions

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Anonymous #3 4w

U know that medical professionals are also untrained in this stuff right… U can manage ur own hormone levels with a simple blood test and there are a billion recourses online (the same one doctors use) to compare ur results to While T is harder (not actually from what I’ve heard from trans men on T) it is still very safe if u buy from trans focused sources since trans people have most of their hormonal swing often come from inhibition of other hormones rather than just building desired

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Anonymous OP 4w

except medical professionals are trained in healthcare and can tell you if you have conflicts in your meds and gauruntee a safe source of hormones. it is still risky to buy unregulated black market steroids and some insurance won’t cover blood tests not ordered by a doctor. it is lying to people to say there are no additional risks to diying hrt and that’s dangerous. there are good quality harm reduction resources to point people to and you should d that instead of lying about the risks

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