Anonymous #1 1w

These garbage takes were getting upvoted last year. So glad to see that stop, nature is healing and people are expecting more out of their politicians ❤️

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Anonymous #1 1w

did u not see the last 4 years where a centrist dem paved the way for trump to win be infinitely worse? our argument is to nominate someone that appeals to more people, will actually try to get things done and beat fascism by actual governance rather than fearmingering and privilege policing

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Anonymous #1 1w

The last centrist dem candidate gave fascism time to breathe. If trump had won in 2020, itd have been the continuation of a lame duck presidency full of rhinos. Instead, Biden won, did absolutely nothing, and then gave trump the chance to build up support again. If we elect Gavin newsom, we’re guaranteeing a “trump 3” of sorts, that will be worse than our current situation.

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Anonymous #3 1w

This isn’t about the primary. He said if Gavin wins the primary he won’t vote in the general. Reading comprehension bud

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yep. Using their logic, voting in the primary for the same type of candidates who keep losing to MAGA is just a vote for MAGA.

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Anonymous #1 1w

A primary vote for Newsom is a Presidential vote for Vance. Hope this helps.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Actually it is about the primary. If they elect someone who’s better than Gavin in the primary, I’ll vote for them in the general. Reading comprehension yourself dumbass

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Well you’re definitely guaranteeing it if you just let him win again.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I don’t think it’s worth much but yeah sure

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

You’re the privileged dumbass who’s going to give trump another term. Are you all this stupid? You guarantee it for trump if you don’t.

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Anonymous #1 1w

No actually you’re not. If trump had won in 2020 he’d have left the presidency a total failure.

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Anonymous #1 1w

And also he wouldn’t have been able to do any of this evil kidnapping people off the street shit, because his cabinet would still be rhinos instead of sycophants

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

He’d have left? Does it look like he ever had any intention of leaving? Does it look like it now?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

That’s real easy to say when you don’t have to back it up.. just a hypothetical

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Anonymous #1 1w

He only has the opportunity to refuse to leave the presidency because his entire cabinet is sycophants. Remember what happened last time he tried to do a coup? His WHOLE CABINET turned on him. All of them. And he failed. And then Biden got into office and did NOTHING to stop him from gaining future power.

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Anonymous #1 1w

All you have to do is look at the last like 3 elections they perfectly embody the idea I’m trying to convey.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Now we’re just rewriting history…

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Anonymous #1 1w

I have described literally exactly what happened.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

lmaowut, you think he wouldn’t fire his entire cabinet?

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Anonymous #7 1w

… he did? Thats literally the problem I’m describing. Biden did nothing to punish trump for his crimes, then trump replaced his 2016 cabinet with sycophants and that’s literally how we got here

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Isn’t your point that he wouldn’t have done that if he won in 2020?

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Anonymous #1 1w

ya bud. i’m not voting newsom in the general either bc that implies dems don’t care about progressive values or meeting this moment

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Anonymous #7 1w

you do realize most presidents have a new cabinet after each term anyway right?

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Anonymous #3 1w

This. It’s so simple. If they want left wing votes, nominate someone who can fucking appeal to left wing voters.

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Anonymous #3 1w

“Vote for the fascist collaborator. Vote for the guy who let washed up failed director and fascist Ben Shapiro on his show, and then let him walk all over him like a door mat” Yeah no bro I ain’t doing that

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

for real. the guy who glazed STEVE BANNON is for sure gonna fight fascism meaningfully

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Anonymous #2 1w

Exactly. Frankly, even if the candidate isn’t newsom, if they pull the “I’ll have republicans in my cabinet” I might just write them off right then and there. Who knows maybe there will be a big culture shift, but I don’t wanna support the people who collaborate with fascists

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes, that’s exactly why Mushy’s point makes no sense. He really thinks Trump would fill his lame duck cabinet with RINOs again 😭

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m not left wing. Do you want me to vote for candidates that align with my values or against the serious threat to this country’s wellbeing?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Btw, he was literally kidnapping people off the street in 2020. With RINOs in his cabinet.

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Anonymous #7 1w

in a timeline where he won and didn’t try to overturn the election results, yes i would expect his cabinet is less radical. are you okay??

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Anonymous #1 1w

>im not left wing You’ve had bad takes the entire thread, I can tell. Anyway, 2nd option, but extend it to the primary. Make sure not to do the privileged thing of wasting your primary vote on a candidate who is guaranteed to let the serious threat win the general.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Again, if you think the black bagging and release of protestors and journalists in 2020 is even remotely comparable to the actual real life torture camps being built on American soil, you’re delusional.

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Anonymous #2 1w

God I can’t wait to not have to try and work with you snobs. Unfortunately someone has to laydown their pride and it sure as hell isn’t going to be the liberal/leftist elitists

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

i love how libs can’t seem to grasp how bad shit is while being the ones constantly saying they’re the ones trying to reduce harm. simultaneously , they can’t recognize their own failures and role in this current outcome

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Anonymous #3 1w

They’re not even libs. If they were libs they’d be in a basement stocking up on ammunition right now. They’re not actually about harm reduction, it’s a sports game for them. They just want their side to win regardless of whether or not the outcome is negative. They literally can’t think beyond the next election.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Self awareness = 0

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Anonymous #1 1w

Ditto.

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Anonymous #3 1w

The influential people in his administration and some cabinet members are no different. Miller, Vought, Ratcliffe. Barr was literally in the Epstein files and listed as someone of interest by the FBI, so he might even be worse than Bondi

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

it’s so frustrating. i voted for harris and don’t regret it knowing what’s happened, but i also can recognize that we need a new direction and can’t let the dems believe our votes are locked in.

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Anonymous #1 1w

this is so ironic

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Anonymous #7 1w

Actually his cabinet is different now and full of even MORE sycophants. Pretending otherwise is dishonest. You are dishonest.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Where did I say otherwise? My point is that nothing prevented him from adding the sycophants to a hypothetical 2021-2025 cabinet. I haven’t been proven otherwise. I even showed you that some of them are in fact the same people

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Anonymous #7 1w

And yet in 2016 he didn’t.

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Anonymous #7 1w

He fired people sure but he didn’t replace his whole cabinet with sycophants. And if he’d won in 2020, I don’t think he would’ve. Cuz why would he need to? He won.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

That’s exactly why he would replace them. Because he’s not going to face another election. He can do whatever tf he wants. That’s why he’s acting like this rn instead of doing this in his first term

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Anonymous #7 1w

Dude, he’s not running again.

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Anonymous #7 1w

It’s gonna be Vance v newsom not actually a real trump 3 lol.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Oh look, Mushy trusts trump to follow the law instead of doing exactly what he says he’s going to do. Wakey wakey, this isn’t a dream

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Anonymous #1 1w

🙄

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yeah sure I totally trust him to follow the law and this has nothing to do with the fact he’s visibly dying.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Dumbass.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

People can be visibly dying for years. Especially with access to the best healthcare in the world. Don’t count your chickens

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I can’t tell if this is bait or not. I’ll try explaining this slowly. 2016: “RINO” (by today’s standards ig) cabinet. He’s *bad* but not absurd. 2020: Hypothetically, he was still not incredibly bad, so he wins reelection. Now the public can’t touch him. He fires his entire cabinet and brings the sycophants. The masters behind this shitshow are the same (Miller and Vought). Everything is set up for him to do what he’s actually doing in 2025-2029

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Anonymous #7 1w

You have not shown me how this scenario isn’t possible

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