Anonymous #2 3w

Like this Christian supremacy stuff is fucking stupid and so is the argument that science comes from Biblical thought, but the Christian world did have numerous scientific innovations of its own. And Christianity had its own intellectual scientific and philosophical traditions closely paralleling those of Judaism, Islam, Hellenistic religion, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, etc.

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Anonymous #2 3w

The root was never belief in a god tho lol. Most scholars of western history point to Athens as the birth of science at all. And every well known Greek philosopher based most of their rationale on the rejection of the supernatural. The very notion that our understanding of the world should be divided and studied in specialized fields comes from Ancient Greece. At no point did religion contribute anything of epistemic value

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Anonymous #2 3w

To imply any religion at all contributed anything is ludicrous. They just so happened to be religious people who went to institutions that controlled resources and access to knowledge and all of that infrastructure.

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Anonymous .gaia. 3w

The root was never a belief in God. But numerous religions independently developed their own philosophies and rationalisms, which either modified religious ways of knowing through logic, or drew upon other philosophical traditions. I view that myself as religion being subsumed by logic, but what’s incorrect is acting as if these cultures didn’t actively pursue science.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I never said they didn’t pursue science, but to say their religions continued is at least dubious and for anyone to claim these religions hold any scientific value in our contemporary world is ridiculous

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Anonymous .gaia. 3w

*contributed

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Anonymous .gaia. 3w

Yeah religious institutions were often the ones maintaining literacy and educational institutions. European universities, Islamic madrasas, Jewish yeshivas, Buddhist mahaviharas, even the Ancient Greek Academies were usually located on holy sites. I think society has progressed past the need for religion, but that doesn’t require pretending like they never did anything useful historically.

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Anonymous #2 3w

You seem to be confusing me pointing out that historically religions played an important role in education and teaching as meaning they should still play an important role. That doesn’t mean we still need them. Historically, the sciences also tended to be funded by nobility. That doesn’t mean we need monarchism.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I’m actually not accusing you specifically of saying religion should play an important role, I’m harking back to the post I was responding to. And again, I’m not saying that these institutions weren’t important. They were. I’m saying religious doctrine and mythology had no important role. The religion itself was not important. Science is grounded in rejecting mythology.

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