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I would make the argument that, while China more directly uses their’s for reprisals, the American surveillance state is the most pervasive and draconian in the world
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Anonymous 16w

Nothing comes even remotely close to the level of mass, ubiquitous surveillance the Chinese government has instituted. That being said, the US and many other countries are rapidly approaching China’s level, thanks to companies like Palantir

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Anonymous 16w

Our surveillance state is not yet at the level of china, but they are working on it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 16w

Damn we said the same thing I was like 5 seconds late

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16w

For both of you then, Americans’ privacy is given up freely. Our surveillance state may not be the government directly tracking everything its citizens do, but the citizens give up their information by posting their lives or signing TOS without reading them. I’d say at the very least our’s and China’s are comparable, just publicly owned vs. privately

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

Wait a second, I just wanna make sure I understand cause maybe I read it wrong. Are you using people voluntarily posting on social media or signing terms of service, as evidence that the U.S. surveillance apparatus is comparable to CHINA??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

Chinas surveillance system is far superior because it is fully integrated and centralized. This is exactly what Palantir is trying to do reaching its tentacles into every software but they’re still a ways away from accomplishing it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16w

Right, they have CCTV connected directly to the government networks on hiking trails in national parks and monitoring every single message on WeChat for contraband like porn (strictly banned there). Our flock camera infestation and meta spying can’t compete at all with stuff like this

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16w

Those are just a few of the ways we willingly give up our privacy. I figured it would go without saying that every last bit of internet, telephone, or any other form of communication is monitored by the federal government

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 16w

Like much of everything else in our government, it’s much less centralized and much more specialized. Chinese surveillance means cameras on every corner tracking what every citizen does all the time and robust internet censorship. Meanwhile, US surveillance is highly targeted and can find any person the government is looking for on a dime while caching vast amounts of information on citizens online.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 16w

My argument would be that Chinese surveillance is meant to be oppressive and noticeable to keep you in line while US surveillance is much more secretive and it will already be too late by the time you notice if you’re being targeted

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