Anonymous #2 3w

Right, but an IQ test at least shows us who is more mentally capable of being a leader. Just because you have high intellect, doesn’t mean you know how to be a leader or be able to negotiate. There are many things that go into being president, and one of them is leadership. Sometimes it is nice to have a change rather than your typical politician who tries to profit off of their speeches and inside-trader info as much as they can while we get poorer.

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

The whole point of #2’s comment was that IQ tests do nothing to show someone’s mental capacity to lead. Being able to guess patterns doesn’t make you mentally capable of being a leader

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Anonymous #1 3w

Why?

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Anonymous #3 3w

So your saying being able to pick up on certain patterns and being mentally sharp doesn’t affect a political leaders opinions and actions? Then what does? I’m not arguing, I’m genuinely asking. If that’s not a good way, then what is?

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

IQ tests don’t measure mental capability. Full stop. They measure a limited skill set mostly reliant on one particular intelligence. There are multiple intelligences (interpersonal, intrapersonal, verbal-linguistic, bodily-kinesthetic, visual-spatial, musical, logical-mathematical, naturalistic) that every person has strengths/weaknesses in. IQ test questions are limited to mostly spatial and logical thinking. They don’t reflect high interpersonal skills, metacognition, creativity, etc. Bffr

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Anonymous #3 3w

Because you’re a leader for the U.S. you shouldn’t be tied to other countries. Your focus is making America better

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Anonymous #3 3w

the leader of the country should not hold any allegiance to another country. if they have multiple citizenships, they hold allegiance to multiple countries, and therefore may not have your best interests in mind

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Anonymous #1 3w

👍

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

Like I said in my first comment, experience, involvement, and demonstration of metacognition matter most. Can leaders make decisions that weigh the pros/cons effectively? Can they communicate effectively? Can they be a strong representative for their constituency? This conversation is so old. We went over this with George Bush.

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Anonymous #4 3w

I didn’t realize that citizenship was equal to allegiance. Why aren’t we giving immigrants who want to work, pay taxes and support American communities automatic citizenship then? If even they said they were willing to trade their old citizenship for American citizenship, would you give it to them?

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Anonymous #3 3w

In most cases it is… not ripping on Minnesota, but look what we got going on there. Omar Fateh was waving a Somalian flag during his speeches. What that tells voters in the area is he is open to work with somolians… okay, what about it everyone else that lives there? He doesn’t have dual citizenship, however, when you wave another countries flag over the flag you are running under, it tells you he is there for the Somalian people, not for everyone else (again, not ripping on him, but you get it)

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Anonymous #3 3w

Adding more to my last comment, I’m not saying it’s wrong to be proud of where you are from, but to include it with your political campaign is a little different because Americans want politicians for America, not for anyone else. I can even use Israel as an example on our own politics… I think we can all agree we want what is best for OUR country, not any other country. We don’t vote for others, we vote for us.

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

You’re attaching a lot of underhanded meanings that aren’t there. Also, if you watch the video, he had the American flag behind him. Should Fateh have to go to every single interview and wave every single flag under the sun to make sure nobody “feels left out”?

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Anonymous #3 3w

to become a citizen of the US (and most other countries) you take an oath of citizenship where you declare you allegiance to that country. congratulations, now you realize it’s equal, and you also now understand how citizenship works 👏

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Anonymous #4 3w

What about people born here? They never had to take an oath of allegiance

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Anonymous #3 3w

No that’s not what I’m saying, I am saying only wave the American flag during your campaign. That’s where we are, and that’s how we are all united. It doesn’t matter where you came from, you are here now and welcome with open arms, as long as you abide by the laws of this country. Any citizen can wave whatever flag they want, but if they’re going to be running a campaign… wave ours.

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

“Ours?” That’s an odd thing to say

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Anonymous #3 3w

Yea, for any citizen of America, it is our flag. That’s why we have so many different communities and cultures to unite under one nation, and one flag.

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Anonymous pplrdumb 3w

So you recognize there are a ton of communities and cultures but you don’t want politicians to appeal to those communities and cultures? I’m still not understanding what is so terrible about waving a flag to show solidarity with a group of people living here especially when these politicians also always appear with American flags too

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Anonymous #3 3w

you don’t have to be born in the united states to run for political office, only president and vice president… if someone holds multiple citizenships then i don’t want them running for office. i wouldn’t want an irish person to immigrate here and try running for governor of vermont, just like i also wouldn’t want an american to immigrate to ireland and try running for office there.

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Anonymous #4 3w

But if the Irish person immigrated here and revoked their old citizenship you would?

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Anonymous #3 3w

yep i’d be fine with that. idgaf if they weren’t born here, just that they aren’t 100% loyal to the country. idc if they support their people, i care if they are putting their people over americans when we’re all supposed to be equal

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Anonymous #4 3w

Fair fair, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me

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Anonymous #3 3w

Yea because it then shows the American people that they are here to help us, not Ireland. If you’re running for a political position in America, you are here to help the American people (the people who live here and pay taxes) and American people only. The taxpayers and citizens here don’t want a sell-out that only supports their own birth country, because then they’re only going to help that nation, not us.

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Anonymous #4 3w

American citizens don’t want “equal allegiance,” America wants allegiance to America, and America only. That’s how it was built and that’s how it should remain.

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