Anonymous #1 15w

me when i just fucking make shit up

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Anonymous OP 15w

Me when I can’t acknowledge my historical wrongdoings and privilege so I deflect

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Anonymous #1 15w

“Oh yeah if you were alive you’d probably own more slaves” is a fucking batshit claim especially considering only a minuscule segment of society at that time owned a significant number of slaves, AND the northern states were already abolishing slavery during his lifetime.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Buddy this is EXCELLENT ragebait like top tier shit good job

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Anonymous #4 15w

It’s not a fallacy because Jefferson wasn’t making an argument, he was making a statement about his own actions. There is no argument that is being deflected from by attacking his character

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Anonymous #2 15w

Truly speaks to OP’s character that they’d have 700 slaves even though the northern states were already abolishing slavery and you had to be very rich to have that number of slaves… I don’t think we’re dealing with a good person here guys

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Anonymous #5 15w

“He owned hundreds of human beings as slaves” “Oh yeah well you probably have blue hair” Conservative logic is incredible.

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Anonymous #2 15w

Seems to be a consistent trend nowadays I know my facts

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Anonymous #6 15w

Now thats bad

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Anonymous #1 15w

The second POTUS was strongly against slavery btw. The Quakers abolished slavery among themselves by 1776 btw.

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Anonymous #7 15w

Yeah I’m saying OP isn’t a good person, not Thomas Jefferson

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Anonymous #2 15w

Conservative tries to be smart and fails Many such cases

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Anonymous #5 15w

And slavery isn’t?

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Anonymous #1 15w

If my grandma had wheels she’d be a bike

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Anonymous #9 15w

Yeah IF she had wheels…. There’s no ifs ands or buts about this, OP would have owned 700 slaves, period.

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Anonymous #5 15w

I desperately hope you meant to type “Now THAT’S bad!”

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Anonymous #5 15w

No but you seem to take people you have disagreements with as being made of straw while you huff your own farts.

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This you?

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Anonymous #8 15w

This is not a semantic you want to die on. Because this is like saying “Im not a kidnapper! Someone ELSE grabbed them in their van, and i just am holding them in my basement tied up! I didn’t kidnap them.” That logic isn’t sound and is ahistorical, as well. Slavery only existed because demand did: and those who participated in the demand like Jefferson were a part of the process of enslavement, whether you like it or not.

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Anonymous #13 15w

Not reading all that

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Anonymous #5 15w

Hey— i don’t have blue hair and any mental health crisis. I have a masters degree in history. OP is right and you lowkey were probably the kid in class who said “Not to be devils advocate here…” when talking about patriarchy or some shit.

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Anonymous #8 15w

It is exactly 5 sentences my guy. When’s the last time you read a book?

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Anonymous #2 15w

I’m referring to the “i don’t value his opinion” part this person said.

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Anonymous #4 15w

AI overview detected: opinion rejected

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Anonymous #2 15w

17 upvotes compared to my -2 downvotes is so funny when you’re blatantly wrong and I just proved it 🤣. People are so closed minded it’s so sad! Also to the person who said I’m conservative I’m not. I’m not political in general and after this comment I won’t be on this app with the rest of you clowns. Got some random notification and haven’t opened this garbage app since I graduated school in may 😂.

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Anonymous #4 15w

Omg lol your go to was AI. You know why it says “evaluating the ideas themselves”? Because ad hominem is contingent upon there being an argument that is being deflected from. Thomas Jefferson wasn’t presenting an argument. The post relies upon his personal authority to imply “everyone should be like him in this way.” The AI doesn’t know the context bruh

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Anonymous #13 15w

Cope

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Anonymous #4 15w

“Just proved it” and it was an AI is the fuckin chuddiest shit lol

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Anonymous #8 15w

Buying slaves makes you just as guilty as the ones who kidnapped or bought them from Africa, and yes I said bought not brought, tons of slaves were actually sold off by their own people

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Anonymous #13 15w

What’s that?

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Anonymous #14 15w

I think we need to direct more hate towards the Arabs for their role in the slave trade. Much worse.

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Anonymous #8 15w

The majority of slaves were sold by African tribes it’s why I don’t let people call me African American, like I don’t fw those mfs.

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Anonymous #14 15w

Well genetically that is what you are. It’s why people also say Mexican American or White ((European)) American etc… most Africans don’t like American blacks either for cultural reasons I guess.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Hi hello, black person here. I would’ve been a slave

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Anonymous #4 15w

This mf asked AI 😭 the idiocy on display here is astounding

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Anonymous #8 15w

wtf did the arabs have to do with the trans atlantic slave trade? you’re not even good at regurgitating brain dead right wing talking points

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Anonymous #14 15w

they were not sold off by “their own people”

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Anonymous #16 15w

The Arabic slave trade of subsaharan African slaves was multitudes larger and more cruel, however all male slaves were castrated so they could no reproduce. And yes Africans were primarily sold and traded by Africans, usually taken as prisoners of war. Slavery was not brought to Africa by whites and Danes weren’t venturing into the Congo to get slaves. This is not even politically charged or disputed information, it’s well accepted history.

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Anonymous #8 15w

Owning people is slavery.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 15w

Yes but it is not enslaving. They are different words with different meanings. I am correct on the semantics.

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Anonymous #14 15w

A lot of the slaves in Africa were sourced from inter-tribal warfare. The slavers wouldn’t view those who they were enslaving as “their own people” because they were from different tribes. In some cases they would have been from the same culture but very often not.

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Anonymous #2 15w

This is true. But if this is the case then you cannot collectivize the danish, English, Spanish, etc as white people. Either collectivize with race theory or don’t but it cannot be one sided.

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Anonymous #8 15w

Arabs didn’t castrate all their slaves. Castration had a high mortality rate, it was not cost effective to castrate every slave. Castrated slaves were usually intended for specific uses, such as harem guards. Europeans usually bought from African rulers, but they would sometimes venture into Africa to capture slaves themselves. This was more common in the early colonial days prior to established slavery export infrastructure systems.

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Anonymous #8 15w

I do not view slavery as an exclusively white thing. Whiteness is useful to discuss in this context because it was how the Europeans ideologically justified slavery, but slavery was common across many societies.

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Anonymous #8 15w

Whats a book? Thats what you’re asking?

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Anonymous #13 15w

It’s a bunch of paper bound together with words printed in them. Hope that helps. Google is free btw?

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Anonymous #8 15w

Chud: YOURE the one who asked what a book was.

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Anonymous #13 15w

I don’t think so, maybe you are confused

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Anonymous #8 15w

Nigga what

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Anonymous #14 15w

You are from Africa gang, with that logic don’t call your ass American either cause the slave owners who owned your ancestors were also American.

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Anonymous #8 15w

the arab slave trade is completely different than the transatlantic slave trade dummy. why did you bring that up in response to thomas jefferson owning slaves???

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Anonymous #8 15w

it literally does not matter what are you talking about.

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Anonymous #1 15w

This is cracking me up 😭 OP I can’t believe you’d own 700 slaves when people were trying to abolish slavery… what do you have to say for yourself…

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